Stolen property is stolen property. Does not matter how you got it or what form it is in all that matters is you have it in your possession. Other wise The Record industry could not prosecute people for stealing music by downloading it to their computers.
Manning said that it was very easy, until no one had noticed. He explained that he had copied classified documents from a computer at a U.S. base in Iraq where he served
I really don't have a preference in either direction on Bush. But to play devils advocate again. He had the blessing of the US Department of Justice to go ahead and do what he did. Lot's of culpability to be spread around. Now if you go just after Bush that's being political. You have to gather up every person in the chain From Bush to the person that actually did the deed.
For Assange this one law is enough to go after him he has no diplomatic immunity or protection. He accepted stolen US government documents from Manning. Manning is being charged there need's not be a connection between either one due to this law connects them. Manning does not need to rat out Assange to bring charges.
Receiving stolen government documents is not a crime?
§ 2315. Sale or receipt of stolen goods, securities, moneys, or fraudulent State tax stamps How Current is This? Whoever receives, possesses, conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of any goods, wares, or merchandise, securities, or money of the value of $5,000 or more, or pledges or accepts as security for a loan any goods, wares, or merchandise, or securities, of the value of $500 or more, which have crossed a State or United States boundary after being stolen, unlawfully converted, or taken, knowing the same to have been stolen, unlawfully converted, or taken; or Whoever receives, possesses, conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of any falsely made, forged, altered, or counterfeited securities or tax stamps, or pledges or accepts as security for a loan any falsely made, forged, altered, or counterfeited securities or tax stamps, moving as, or which are a part of, or which constitute interstate or foreign commerce, knowing the same to have been so falsely made, forged, altered, or counterfeited; or Whoever receives in interstate or foreign commerce, or conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of, any tool, implement, or thing used or intended to be used in falsely making, forging, altering, or counterfeiting any security or tax stamp, or any part thereof, moving as, or which is a part of, or which constitutes interstate or foreign commerce, knowing that the same is fitted to be used, or has been used, in falsely making, forging, altering, or counterfeiting any security or tax stamp, or any part thereof— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. This section shall not apply to any falsely made, forged, altered, counterfeited, or spurious representation of an obligation or other security of the United States or of an obligation, bond, certificate, security, treasury note, bill, promise to pay, or bank note, issued by any foreign government. This section also shall not apply to any falsely made, forged, altered, counterfeited, or spurious representation of any bank note or bill issued by a bank or corporation of any foreign country which is intended by the laws or usage of such country to circulate as money. For purposes of this section, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
No problem and didn't take it that way. Nothing says he has to be born here as is sated in the requirements. But that to be eligible to be president he has to have been born of parents that are both US citizens. Obama's Parents are One US Citizen and one British Subject Kenyan Citizen. So if they followed the law of the Constitution then Obama is not eligible to be president. Would you agree? Just a question not trying to inflame or start a riot.
If Obama signed a pre-emptive pardon for Bush as I suspect he may have done then the US cannot go after him. Due to the fact he as been released from that burden by the pardon.
You do not support torture no mater who or what they have done. V. Otherwise it would look like hypocrisy.
He was a US citizen. Schwarzenegger is a dual Austria/United States citizen. He holds Austrian citizenship by birth and has held U.S. citizenship since becoming naturalized in 1983.
Never said I didn't want bush to face a trial. I only pointed out the laws that let him off the hook. you and Emma didn't want to read or believe those. Personally I don;t care but if your gonna be bringing in the laws from one side then I have the obligation to bring in the laws supporting the other side. You can't have a one sided debate.
§ 2315. Sale or receipt of stolen goods, securities, moneys, or fraudulent State tax stamps How Current is This? Whoever receives, possesses, conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of any goods, wares, or merchandise, securities, or money of the value of $5,000 or more, or pledges or accepts as security for a loan any goods, wares, or merchandise, or securities, of the value of $500 or more, which have crossed a State or United States boundary after being stolen, unlawfully converted, or taken, knowing the same to have been stolen, unlawfully converted, or taken; or Whoever receives, possesses, conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of any falsely made, forged, altered, or counterfeited securities or tax stamps, or pledges or accepts as security for a loan any falsely made, forged, altered, or counterfeited securities or tax stamps, moving as, or which are a part of, or which constitute interstate or foreign commerce, knowing the same to have been so falsely made, forged, altered, or counterfeited; or Whoever receives in interstate or foreign commerce, or conceals, stores, barters, sells, or disposes of, any tool, implement, or thing used or intended to be used in falsely making, forging, altering, or counterfeiting any security or tax stamp, or any part thereof, moving as, or which is a part of, or which constitutes interstate or foreign commerce, knowing that the same is fitted to be used, or has been used, in falsely making, forging, altering, or counterfeiting any security or tax stamp, or any part thereof— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. This section shall not apply to any falsely made, forged, altered, counterfeited, or spurious representation of an obligation or other security of the United States or of an obligation, bond, certificate, security, treasury note, bill, promise to pay, or bank note, issued by any foreign government. This section also shall not apply to any falsely made, forged, altered, counterfeited, or spurious representation of any bank note or bill issued by a bank or corporation of any foreign country which is intended by the laws or usage of such country to circulate as money. For purposes of this section, the term “State” includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.
We'll see if the supreme court can get it killed and if not the next congress. He did take an oath to uphold the Constitution and defend it not cast it aside like he and the dem controlled congress did with this bill. But again the next president can and probably will give him a full pre-emtive pardon for all crimes committed known or unknown at that time.
Yep here you go. The full list of requirements to be President.
* Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.
* One must also be at least 35 years of age to be president. John F. Kennedy was the youngest person to be elected president; he was 43 years old when he was inaugurated in 1961. There is no maximum age limit set forth in the Constitution. Ronald Reagan was the oldest president; at the end of his term in 1988, he was nearly 77.
* Finally, one must live in the United States for at least 14 years to be president, in addition to being a natural-born citizen. The Constitution is vague on this point. For example, it does not make clear whether those 14 years need to be consecutive or what the precise definition of residency is. So far, however, this requirement has not been challenged.
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Advocate again. 
You do not support torture no mater who or what they have done. V. Otherwise it would look like hypocrisy.
RE: Bush cancels travel plans.