Yea, and Arabs died on 7th october too who was taken down by the wild gangsters. Peaceful coexistance in Israel, between the two parts. Only wanting a peaceful life. THAT is how Israel really treats Arabs when given a chance! Are people stupid or just blind to not see this?
I asked befere but nobody here at cs seemed able to answer: How many Jews live peacefully in Gaza? 1? 5? 10? 100? 100.000? In Israel it's 2 MILLION Arabs and none of them been harrassed over the last month(!) Imagine if it was the other way around, say no more.
Treading water a lot but still hopeful. In dire need of rescue. Health should have a boost but is it to late for a workout? Economy still hand to mouth at 52, will it ever change? Loving person dispite political views that often goes against the grain. Wanna take a chance?- if so you'll get a faithful good bloke. Only, now and then I'm grumpy or irritable. Bear with that and you might got yourself a bloke then.
I agree on the last part. Hamas knew what was coming.They deliberatly sacreficed the safety of their own people to which they claim to lead. Conclution: Hamas must go one way or another. Their own people suffer under their rule, not only the 'enemy' on the other side of the border.
This video below is 2 years old. 5min 54 seconds A Palestinian Explains Hamas
Don't need Jesus to stop it, only the Palestinian people themselves to come to their senses and stand up to and reject Hamas, nomather what powerful forces (Iranian leadership and the Hamas gangsters themselevs) are egging them on.
Good post Salamuna. There is most definelty good sensible Arabs, plenty of them. Clean ut Hamas and hopefully those good ones can get a chance to rule Gaza. Eventually.
It's always a tragedy to see the people of a nation being held hostage by a small corrupt selfish gang at top, just like in Iran. I wish also Persia one day will to be free from their own misrulers one day.
Jac, good video. I know such groups exist. Bridge building good people, on all sides. Plus we see no hostilities between Jews and Arabis inside Israel at the moment, evein if that number of people is wast. Also good. But what I hunger to see right now is a Palestinian today who would speak up against Hamas publicly and further more suggest that the Palestinian people should agree to future peace proposals from Israel, that will come if past history is anything to judge by here.
In the end, while the Summit did not produce a formal peace agreement, it successfully produced the basis for an Egyptian-Israeli peace, in the form of two “Framework” documents, which laid out the principles of a bilateral peace agreement as well as a formula for Palestinian self-government in Gaza and the West Bank."
So someone at least tried, I would say. Does Hamas say "death to the Jews"?... I suppose they are. besides 1) Israel gave up the gaza strip peacefully and 2 ) the Arabs inside Israel today is not being harassed afte vthe 7th oct "incident" and that tells me a lot.
You keep on sheering them poor Palestinains Odd-T but I'm with the Israelis cos I am covinced they are a heck of alot easier to make a lasting deal with that actually will be respected. That is my conviction.
Thank you roh, that hug is well received and back at ya!
A few years back I read a 1000 page diary by Victor Klemperer who lived in Desden: Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis zum letzten : tagebücher 1942-1945 Gave a lasting impression.
So according to that site "6494 trucks of goods entered Gaza through the Kerem Shalom crossing per month during 2022, compared to 10,400 in 2005." So even if that is supposed to show how it's declining (poor them palestinians...) it still shows that Israel did notbehave inhuman but as you indicate they did more than you could expct out of caring for the population on Gaza. That is on average over 200 trucks per day by the way, only through one of the two crossing points to Israel. So what is this blockade they speak of?
And one more thing, do they produce food on Gaza anymore Sala? Do you know anything about what heppend to the green houses Israel left behind there?
Tule, finally we found something we can agree on. Glad for that .
To me it's not possible to explain why these woke'ies think teaming up with islamists make sense. I suppose they alwasy been pro Palestine but why they think the violence of such a magnitude as seen on oct.7th is acceptable is unclear to me. They can for sure not see that the population of Gaza is in reality held hostage by Hamas, and not by Israel.
I just think morraly Israel stand pretty good here and actually there must be quite a few Arabs in the middle east who actually also see them for who they are: the best and most modern folk in the area. I therefore I do not fear an escalation militarilly, not really. Very glad USA stepped in here. Nato (EU) would do jack (nothing).
Let's hope for as few dead ones as possible in the up coming weeks. And water and necessities to float in too, poor people.
It's not really Israels resposibility to fix this, but who else will. I expect very little real effort from this white house to be honest but at least they sent a few floating war machins there, to help out.
What to do with Iran Sala? We know the people there for the most part are good and not wanting no trouble, but their priesthood go their own way as Hamas do. Do you see any good way forward there? At least the woman of Iran show resistance, praise to them for that.
Not good Sala. Not good. I'm not Jewish but I side with the ones I'd like to have as my neighbor. The decent ones. The onces you obviusly can talk to and make agreements with. The ones whom accept you as an equal partner in this human race of ours. And Israel do that dispite lies saying otherwise.
Make me the leader of the Gaza strip tomorrow and before Christas I would make the place grow and thrive. But first all Hamas must be banned. That is number one. If the people there can't do it themselves cos of the potential terror they face, well then Israel must get in and help them select better leaders. That is what is happening now.
I didn't watch that as I'm not at facebook but I watched one and a half minute of something he say on youtube. He call it a consentration camp and being these hamas "fighters" (to say it nicely...) was borne there and known nothing else but this consentration camp (his words not mine), we should seemingly have some understanding. Seems to be what he say. Sure... they can have a portion of sympathy from me- though I can not accept their solution of attacking civilians as a "cry for help" or someything of the sort.
My question to you Bodleing is this: does the population of 2.3 million (or thereabout) have no resposibility of producing leaders who will be reaonable and firstly accept Israel first and cooperate second(?) Only Jihad and kill kill kill- and that is ok... ?
It's more dangerous to let a specific few decide what is true or false than to show it all to us- so we can decide for ourselves. Democracy is based on free exchange of thought and ideas. The useless ones seldom get a majority- though there are exceptions (Hamas).
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A Palestinian man speaks out.
Yea,I'm also kinda lost for words right now.
So,
what needes to happen will happen.
It's a pity the whole thing but talking
with Hamas will not work.