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RE: Should We Cull The Over-50s??!

I think I'd gathered that laugh

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That's true. But why should your generation be the beginning of the failure in this cycle? Should my generation have to continue to fail?

And I guess I don't hold out much hope in your generation because you've lived too long in the easy times. On the whole I don't think last century's Liberal attitudes are compatible with tough environments, and that you're way too entrenched in these attitudes. Whereas, at least the apathy of my generation is potentially pragmatic.

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I know that today we consume far more than we create, I know that this began in the 1960's here and has subsequently worsened, and then ravaged our economy to where we are now - it's logical to suggest that we don't pull our weight and that this began amongst your generation.

Words like economy, generation - these are broad terms, but with the facts of today, surely I can't be that wrong? If i am, why are we being beaten by China and India whom were relatively backward when you were born?

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thumbs up

I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp. But I do know that I don't help myself - I should be more 'Tony Blair' with people laugh

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There's more people than just you in the world, it would be ridiculous of me to say every person from your generation is lazy and undisciplined - but some, too many are, and now because of this, even more amongst my generation are this way, for the moment.

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Yes I do. People change with the times when they have to, and times are getting tougher.

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I'm aware of the history of banking, boom and bust and so on. However, this is no ordinary downturn, we've shifted our position globally which hasn't happened in centuries - and even then that was placing ourselves at the top.

Besides, what of the factories? The mines? Steelworks? - many of these things we spend a fortune on importing, today - I'd say losing them was a fault.

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Well, I work in a proper field which creates wealth in Britain - which as one man is the most important thing I can do for my country. After that, you're talking politics.

And I don't think my generation are particularly good people, but I agree with my Grandad when he used to say it all started to go wrong in the 1960's - which are today's over 50's.

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An 80 year old would of been what 16/17 when the NHS was formed.

It's the generation after that has bankrupted our economy to the point where it threatens the NHS.

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It's a fair point.. but a lot of people do come on here and talk about anything.

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Meaning that household income hasn't increased since 1973 and fifty years ago we were forerunners of the world but now we're in debt to the tune of billions to nations that were almost all peasants when you were born.

This is what I mean by failure, a failure that has been a creeping normalcy for decades.

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Ahhh yes, Thatcher - China's best friend and the enemy of anybody who isn't a toff.

And I disagree, I think your generation has ruined the economy and saddled us with lifelong debt, I see that you are, as a generation, lazy and undisciplined compared to what England knew before you and so have no position to criticise my generation for inheriting your bad traits.

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Masses of people with a different attitude(a new generation) - that changes the world.

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Issues like what, the economy? The debt? The environment? The depletion of natural resources? Yes, we'll see if we can deal with the mess you've left behind.

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You shape this Western world now yes, and it's a spectacular failure. The attitude of this same generation can only bring more failure, you won't change and you won't learn.

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I think we struggle to find qualities to respect in the older generation, if i'm honest. And it may not be so bad, we have got a lot of hard work ahead of us in our lifetimes and I think that in time we'll have much more character than your generation because of it. I certainly don't think it's the case that people become progressively more spoilt indefinitely, there must be a U-turn at some point.

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It means because you've seen most of your years and the young have seen few of theirs, we will change the world more than you.

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Should be under the soil? Was that what I said?

It's good to see when those with a problem with you resort to lies.

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Because it's a silly example, deliberately.

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It grants attention because it's so rare... is my point. It's noticeable because it's not normal. Aside from that, can you not tell when a point is somewhat slapstick?

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I just think people don't really want to grow up, all this "life begins at 40" and then 20 years later it's "60 is the new 40" and I think today's 40/50 year olds are never going to be like the wise old Grandparents I remember - it would require them growing up at some point.

And I also think that attitudes need to change, especially given the current state of things, and that this can't happen without the new generation.

Sorry if offended you, I know I generalise a lot and my point is pretty broad. I don't mean it personally and I've absolutely nothing against the elderly.bouquet

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I think the fact that being the oldest bungee jumper is a recognised world record kind of makes my point for me. Still, i'd love to see it.

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Yea well, there's certain things you've just got to leave to the young and by a certain age you're going to of done all things you're going to do. It's a bit like bungee jumping, if you've not bungee-jumped by the time you're 65 you're not going to do it.

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But I do appreciate the trillions in debt you've blessed upon us, I am truly grateful for it.

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I wouldn't argue with that, I have that opinion of my grandparents and great grandparents generations. They built this country. It's the later generations that inherited prosperous countries and from there have plundered the Earth in creating today's economic shambles.

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That's intelligence.

Wisdom woud be more along the lines of not shipping most of your worthwhile industries off to the Chinese, or not getting into levels of debt that will punish your own grandchildren. Things like that.

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Most people who fought then are now gone, sadly. The ones that aren't are the best people left in this country.

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If we all did what our parents did, we'd still be living in the trees.

And besides, the 60's, the 70's? That's the kind of wisdom we could do without.

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They fought for England, and they were the last people that did.

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Time breeds entrenchment, which is why you must step aside. It's not that you should be culled lol, simply retire from shaping a world you no longer comprehend.

The youth's future lies above the soil, your future lies beneath.

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