mildagoraphobic: Who do you think will emerge sounding better?
depends on your criteria for 'perform best'.....
i imagine both will be performing well...whether you want well rehearsed lies lines, or something with a bit of ad lib and outburst....
hopefully folks will use some personal news due diligence, and will be able to be informed through the rhetoric, (or in spite of it...) towards choosing a leader who is best for their country.
mildagoraphobic: Who do you think will emerge sounding better?
I think she won the debate . Trump was always on the defence . Both got some hits in , Trumpys one with her being in a position of power all her adult life and the US being in such a mess she suddenly has the answers ,oh yea sure she does. The bit about solar panels is rubbish , silly chook . She was able to nail Trump for supporting the invasion of Iraq when he did not has her a skilled debater . she should join a debating club for the retired out of harms way .
Track16: I still cannot understand how a man like Trump can infiltrate the Republican party and become such a serious contender for president that he is now.
How sad the state of America is that people want change so bad that they would consider Trump.
I hear you...sad indeed...who would believe a reality TV personality would actually be a contender for Potus?...
loulou77: I hear you...sad indeed...who would believe a reality TV personality would actually be a contender for Potus?...
Welllllll, I think Canucks and Others fear Trump because he has sworn to see that every country will carry their own weight and defend themselves instead of taxpayers here holding down the fort ....
Hey, loulou... where does the name loulou come from?
Track16: I still cannot understand how a man like Trump can infiltrate the Republican party and become such a serious contender for president that he is now.
How sad the state of America is that people want change so bad that they would consider Trump.
galrads: Welllllll, I think Canucks and Others fear Trump because he has sworn to see that every country will carry their own weight and defend themselves instead of taxpayers here holding down the fort ....
Hey, loulou... where does the name loulou come from?
Hiya Galrads Nope, it's got nothing to do with fearing that we'll have to defend ourselves. The man is simply a scary dude.
galrads: Welllllll, I think Canucks and Others fear Trump because he has sworn to see that every country will carry their own weight and defend themselves instead of taxpayers here holding down the fort ....
Hey, loulou... where does the name loulou come from?
No I just think people do not like an amateur thin skinned egomaniac at the helm...Clinton has some trust issues but is now looking at why there are so many youth supporting Sanders...
Canada will always be your friendly neighbor and we have no fear in regards to national security...we voted for sunny ways not fear and loathing...
Loulou is a name of a pet I had long ago...miss her dearly...
YouMeUs: Clinton was too busy trying to dumb down Trump to get him to retaliate, while at the same time trying to get the crowd to laugh at his expense. You could even see her smirking after doing so. I was surprised to see that Trump didn't buy into it as much as he had in the past. His responses to her, brief as they were, made her look more foolish than her attempts a few times. Then he went back to address the issues he wanted to convey, forcing Clinton to do the same in her rebuttals.
Trump scorched her on the ISIS issue after she bragged on having her plans on her web site on how she'd deal with them, and saying Trump had no plans at all. Of course no sane POTUS or runner-to-be would not reveal any plans to the enemy on how to defeat them. So why would she do so?
I think he edged her on the debate overall. Clinton may need to rethink her strategy if that's all she's got to throw at him.
I was not judging the debate on fact but how it unfolded , he was defensive and reacting to Clinton , that's a loss in a pure debate . Her policy's are simple , follow on from Obama and expand the worse bits . Trump on the other had is playing debater , he is not and it does not fit with the "Chairman of the Board " that he is and the US needs now .
secretagent09: Ronald Reagan was one month shy of 70 years old when he became president and it lasted for 8 years. He had been a movie star for many years.
So the fact that Trumpy was a tv reality celebrity doesn't mean anything. While he was firing people on tv Hillary was actually working in a real job.
You silly woman , Trumps been creating real jobs throughout his career while Clinton has been in a position of influence 30 years doing her bit to bring the US to its knees .
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
Trump cant stop lying, its compulsive and very,very weird. When she confronted him about supporting the Iraq war he eventually lost it, ranting and incoherent. A few other issues similar behavior. First he said he liked the moderator and later said he was attacked unfairly by him. First he thought he won the debate and now he cites nothing but polls by bart and Drudge!
The man has a screw loose. All the repubs can do is hope a hate Clinton campaign will hide him in some hole.
In the next debate I hope he quits blowing his nose in the mic!
epirb: You silly woman , Trumps been creating real jobs throughout his career while Clinton has been in a position of influence 30 years doing her bit to bring the US to its knees .
You silly man...
The only people voting for Trump is angry poor white males...Trump is all about illusion...read any of his "books"...he claims to be the author...that is a stretch...
secretagent09: Ronald Reagan was one month shy of 70 years old when he became president and it lasted for 8 years. He had been a movie star for many years.
So the fact that Trumpy was a tv reality celebrity doesn't mean anything. While he was firing people on tv Hillary was actually working in a real job.
Yes I am aware of Regan but a reality TV personality somehow taints Trumps credibility...
Clinton has the knowledge and experience that Trump does not...lets hope people will remember this...
raphael119: Trump cant stop lying, its compulsive and very,very weird. When she confronted him about supporting the Iraq war he eventually lost it, ranting and incoherent. A few other issues similar behavior. First he said he liked the moderator and later said he was attacked unfairly by him. First he thought he won the debate and now he cites nothing but polls by bart and Drudge!
The man has a screw loose. All the repubs can do is hope a hate Clinton campaign will hide him in some hole.
In the next debate I hope he quits blowing his nose in the mic!
He said "I wasn't sniffling" yet Twitter went crazy with people asking why is he sniffling.
He sure did go nuts when Hillary said he supported the Iraq war. It was proven this morning that he did support it.
I like Lester Holt but he couldn't control Trump. The next two debates need a moderator with a strong voice to make him stop talking.
Better yet, the candidates should be warned that if they go more then 15 seconds over their allowed time their microphone will be turned off. Then you'll see Trump mouthing off and unless you can read lips nobody will know what garbage he is saying
He does have a screw loose Raph but he did make sense when talking about free-trade. He seemed to be thoroughly informed about that.
However, the particular audience he is speaking to don't care about free-trade. When they hear him promise medical insurance and jobs they will vote for him.
raphael119: Trump cant stop lying, its compulsive and very,very weird. When she confronted him about supporting the Iraq war he eventually lost it, ranting and incoherent. A few other issues similar behavior. First he said he liked the moderator and later said he was attacked unfairly by him. First he thought he won the debate and now he cites nothing but polls by bart and Drudge!
The man has a screw loose. All the repubs can do is hope a hate Clinton campaign will hide him in some hole.
In the next debate I hope he quits blowing his nose in the mic!
If it suited Clinton to say he did not support the war she would say so . Where he was on it are fact , you must have missed that bit . As for Repubs hating , you might want to listen to some democrats talking to Millie Weaver in a democrat party building . Emotion seems evenly matched between GOP and Dnc .
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
epirb: You silly woman , Trumps been creating real jobs throughout his career while Clinton has been in a position of influence 30 years doing her bit to bring the US to its knees .
Yes, daddy gave the spoiled brat 14 million to get rid of him. After a wild, extreme speculation of hundreds of millions on bankrupt property in a bankrupt city he made a fortune . Since then hes faced numerous bankruptcies, questionable wealth and integrity (Trump University anyone?), and a deeply suspect unwillingness to release his taxes.
raphael119: Yes, daddy gave the spoiled brat 14 million to get rid of him. After a wild, extreme speculation of hundreds of millions on bankrupt property in a bankrupt city he made a fortune . Since then hes faced numerous bankruptcies, questionable wealth and integrity (Trump University anyone?), and a deeply suspect unwillingness to release his taxes.
According to Trump he is self made...lol...just a small loan...
raphael119: Yes, daddy gave the spoiled brat 14 million to get rid of him. After a wild, extreme speculation of hundreds of millions on bankrupt property in a bankrupt city he made a fortune . Since then hes faced numerous bankruptcies, questionable wealth and integrity (Trump University anyone?), and a deeply suspect unwillingness to release his taxes.
He said the law allowed him to go bankrupt four times "so I did it".
But was it within the law to use foundation money to fight the many lawsuits he was under and to use foundation money to buy a 9 foot painting of himself.
raphael119: Yes, daddy gave the spoiled brat 14 million to get rid of him. After a wild, extreme speculation of hundreds of millions on bankrupt property in a bankrupt city he made a fortune . Since then hes faced numerous bankruptcies, questionable wealth and integrity (Trump University anyone?), and a deeply suspect unwillingness to release his taxes.
yea , he had a go . Banks put him on an allowance .
All that he built still stands employing people . Clinton on the other hand , said during the debate , says she wants green industries . Sola panels generating power to replace dirty coal fired power stations AND THEIR WORKERS . Displacement employment , not creating new industry . Same as you replacing the motor in your car , good for every body else but you , more so if the motor still works .
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
epirb: If it suited Clinton to say he did not support the war she would say so . Where he was on it are fact , you must have missed that bit . As for Repubs hating , you might want to listen to some democrats talking to Millie Weaver in a democrat party building . Emotion seems evenly matched between GOP and Dnc .
I was gonna give you some google sites but Secret Agents post just before you is much better.
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