Consumer rights...

I try to look after my money, hence I check what I buy and I also check the price I have to pay ...typing

I encountered the following scenario at one of the shops in my town...

I saw coffee mugs and it was on sale...was R 69.00 and Now R29.00 ... I liked the mugs and bought it for R29.00 per mug.

When I got home I removed the packaging I saw there was a price at the back of the price tag I saw/and paid in the shop ... I remove that and I saw a first price which is Was R39.00 and Now R21.00.

I went back to the shop and asked them to see the original retail price of this mug. My concern was that the up mark an item only to sell this at a perceived lower price. They could give me the retail price as R69.00 but this retail price dates 11 months back. In the meantime this item is on the list of discontinued items and was on different 'sales' at different sales prices the past 11 months...is this 'fair' and should I be happy?

My concern remains that a perception is created on an item that the saving is high only to find it is old stock which sold even at a lower price I paid for it...
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LFA.
hmmm Will you repy to your comments?! Lol
Eish Roomie hug ... 5 am and I didn't sleep one bit... so, maybe I could fall asleep...wink , but in that case I respond when I am awake again...idea bouquet Yeah, my previous blog... The one of great things started small... I read the comments and got instantly tired wink ... hug But I am guilty ... I know ...hole
Awww! Goodnight you...hug
I did ... but they claim it is right to have a retail price of R 69.00 on the mug (they paid 11 months ago), where this mug was on previous sales and on the list of discontinued items. It is all about creating the perception we safe lots of money on items and then it is or could not be the case. Who says that there is not depreciation on these items they deduct from taxes (which lower the retail price on their side for a discontinued product), but then you and I are made to belief that we got a massive special...
?confused
It is thus not about the R9.00 saving per mug... It is the principle to make us to belief we buy a special... One can make a calculation/assumption on how many people could buy items with the perception of the saving made on that item ... If discontinued items are deductible for shop owners (or a percentage based on the fact that the item is discontinued and reserved shelve space), but you and I are made to belief we had a massive saving based on the original price...is this fair in terms of the perception created to make us to buy? confused
And then... is it legal? That is the big question... consumers should have rights in terms of laws protecting the consumer...?

I can understand if there is a flyer with an begin and end date... but a shelf in the shop with sale items, for items on a discontinued list... to have it on there for one week, and then next week off again and then again in 'the for sale corner'... indicating a massive saving, but two weeks back it even went for cheaper in the same corner...?confused
Hello again,wave I totally agree with what you re saying. Maybe I m mistaken, but I was always under the impression, in stores, Good service, Good products , and good prices will bring in more customers, (for the store) resulting in more money for the store, and happy customers,confused Either times are changing, or I m too old fashioned,confused
Maybe I m going thru Middle aged crazy,rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Hello LFA,

I am not aware of your consumer laws over here, but I was assume it is legal. You were evidently happy with the price, otherwise you would not have purchased it. At least, one could argue that.

If you feel their practices were unfair, I would not shop there again. I think that is all anyone could do. Or....not shop there again and also try to return the item for a refund. grin

wave
Hi lonleyfromafrica, I have a question for you, how much is R 29 in U.S. Dollars and how many mugs did you buy?
Dear Sean hug ... I bought 6 mugs and lost R8 per mug... exchange rate as this mornings value... 3.46 USD... I paid to much compared to the last 'sale' on this item...

That's really not my point... It is about the perception of an saving that is created to get the consumer to buy... teddybear
Hey Johnny hug

Once again, I was happy with the price as my focus was on the discount I was made to belief I got per mug and not because of the end value. Again it is the whole issue of misleading the customer to get you to buy something... I will have difficulty to belief it is acceptable or legal...

Get a refund... It is not about the money, it is about the trust I have in the shops 'specials'...

Let's make it practical... (and that is more my question)...

The shop bought this mug say for R60.00 retail value one year back...The original sales price for this mug was R 69.00... thus profit of R9.00 per mug... Now this is not a consumable and depreciation could be applicable (this is what I don't know)... this depreciation is (could be) deductible as a percentage on the original retail price and deductible from profit before tax is paid. So the shop could already scored, because it is considered as dragging or slow moving items... If this is true, it is a false perception to advertise the saving based on R69.00 ... It should be a profit margin on the depreciated value on old stock...

teddybear
It is common trade practice to increase the retail price on an item then offer that item at a discounted price that relates to the true sales value.

The important thing is... If you feel you got the mug at a good price then you should be happy regardless as to whether you have been ripped off or not.
Hey Sola hug ... your attempt wink is appreciated, once again...It is all about the perception that is created to get the consumer to buy... I was happy with the R29.00 based on the saving per mug...R 40.00 per mug saving... My happiness was based on the saving that was advertised.... only to find old stock (discontinued stock) which was advertised and even sold on a lower price I bought it for... My primary questions remain... is there value depreciation on non consumables and is that detectable from profit before taxes are paid?
Deductible doh ....laugh
wave LFA We in S.A. allow too many companies get away with client satisfaction and rights. The best thing to do is to put the company on the list of to look out for. I and many other people voice our dissatisfaction by adding their name to the list of disgruntled consumers.Go "Hello Peter" on line and place your comment. From there the website gets in contact with the company in question,and because they do not want to be known as the baddies they will respond,as you say it is just a case of principle.Good luck hug
Lucky Man... I can't believe we have such naive people in this world... I am also very sorry to hear about your sufferings...hug ... It is not remorse... I will not die because I paid 3.49 USD more for my mugs... It is a PRINCIPLE... about misleading the public to sell your items... Does the owner have the right to sell his product at the price he wants too ... YES... but they do not have the right to mislead the public... No.... If these mugs were advertised only for the price I paid ... even more ... I would accept...but it was advertised for a R 40. 00 discount....

Then, it is not only about me... In SA 3.49 USD can buy 2 breads and one 2 litres of milk for a household... there are plenty people who buy based on the perceived discount they will get as they don't have access to other means to compare and to check if they will not get ribbed off... Every where we talk about the value we add, but we are so short sighted that you interpreted this email as buyers remorse and that for 3.49 USD ...doh COL
Candy ... one person who maybe see my point ... that is the plan, hence my need to confirm if there is value deprecation on non consumables and that the shop already got the tax benefit for a depreciated item but mislead me by the using the original retail vs. Sale price as bait... If not... I'll let go and enjoy my mugs wink Point is, seems most people just accept and never ask critical questions... Gee I feel like an alien on my own planet...frustrated
Furthermore, the following aspect is consumer rights ... do we as a customer have the right then to ask for the current listed retail price and the history on a non consumable item that is on sale ... before we buy an item... but people who interpreted my query as buyers remorse wouldn't even think about this...doh
wave LFA Hello Peter is all for the consumer,and rightly so you and all the persons out there should be heard. A customer is the one forking out the money and hoping to enjoy the fruits of his/her purchase.Not only I but my son also had a issue with bad customer service and when it is made known for all to see ,the guilty party will step up to the plate and rectify the mistake,as you say it is not the few rands but the principle of wanting to blindside the buyers into purchasing goods that they the seller will not be able to sell. teddybear
LFA, that's why it's sales, you were "sold". Items with that value have no depreciation. It's all about what a willing purchaser is willing to pay for such item. Thats why the Latin expressioñ is so widely used Caveat Emptor..... Buyer beware!
wave Hello Sands nice to see you even if it is then than nowkiss
The best deal to a consumer is the one they are happy with.
These retail items have no established MSRP like an Automobile
which would be the same across the Country. Women's clothing
is a prime example, a Sale sign that says: 70% off, gets attention, but off of what? The thing is, you bought Mugs and
paid for them, and at the time you were happy with your purchase.head banger A worse scenario would be to knock one on
the floor.laugh
@ Sands... bowing ... eventually the answer I was looking for ...thank you. If it is about buyer aware, how can customers make themselves aware... what would be the benchmark to 'be happy' with a price if you don't buy that item everyday? Can we ask for the sales history on an item on sale, specifically if we want to purchase bigger items ... like a Pedals bicycle wink ...
LFA, we have many tools today then ever before. I do a high percentage of my buying online. Besides searching for a better price you have the customer reviews (which can be tainted) to base an informed decision upon. For bigger items I use an App on my phone that scans the barcode and tells you who is selling the same item and at what (close)location and at what price. We have the tools to be a savvy shopper these days, but on smaller items like your cups it comes down to do you like the price and the product if so, go for it...what a venders cost is should be of no concern to you as long as the price and product meet your qualifications....

Hi Candy...have to run......
The guys get it but the women don'thelp

Luckylady said "there are plenty people who buy based on the perceived discount..." and sellers know this!

Perceived, is the problem. Stop "perceiving" and start educating yourself. Be an informed buyer. It is your responsibility, not the sellers. Do we really need more laws to protect, how shall I say, naive people? Pedal said it well. Everyone knows MSRP is a number pulled out of their a**. You paid the price as it was marked. End of story. Don't fall for those 70% off never ending sales.


Maybe lonely people like to know they are not alonehug A form of comfort, for the sleepless (me).
There is no depreciation on stock deductible from tax. Only damaged or stolen stock can be deducted. So they can sell it at a different price every day if they like. They did not mislead you as the original price was what they claimed. All the prices in between were applicable when it was previously on sale. We use to joke that you save a lot more at one furniture store's sale than the others even though it was more expensive to buy there. Look at the price rather than how much you save as the saving part is mostly sales tacticts to convince you to buy
Bicycle prices I know, as I worked in a Bike shophead banger
If you are passionate about owning a particular product,
research the hell out of it, and then make a decision, then
try to obtain it for the lowest price. Every Penny is a prisoner
to some of us.laugh
You all were very kind... thank you for all the valid input and for the patience for me getting to the point...teddybear Yeah, I still love my mugs will keep them, but had an 3.49 USD lesson in not to look at the discount, but at the price on the item... bouquet
I can visualize you and your lovely set of........Mugs.cool
Ah Pedal man... great if you can still visualise ... a man without an imagination is like a bicycle without pedals blushing....
So coolcool thumbs up
Hey where's your pretty Pic gone?dunno
Some girls give up too easy. They don't understand their power or men.
This stresses the importance of self-assurance and knowing the value of things. Advertising, marketing, and salesmen are all their to prey upon your suggestibility and how easily you are influenced by externalities.

And the best way to lure people with externalities is to convince them that they're immune to such externalities. This is why we live in a culture which speaks a lot about independence of mind but has never been more enthralled to the ploys of marketing and advertising. Convincing a person that their making their own mind up when you are in fact making it for them is the best way to manipulate people.

Personally, I run my business on a fair days work for a fair days pay. It's a motto but I believe in it. And it pays long-term when you respect your customers and intend to run your business, under the same name, for many years to come.
"The customer is always right" is exactly how a business deals with a customer who has more money than sense.
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