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"A 10-MONTH-old baby girl has died in Spain after her grandfather left her in the back of his car for eight hours"

Bit of a roller coaster this article, man leaves granddaughter, 10 months old, in the back of a car in Spain, in summer, hanging is too good for him professor but read on, he went for a coffee & forgot he'd left her there, so poor man has trouble with memory comfort not his fault professor But hold on, cars here heat up in less than a minute to maybe 50c+, who would leave a dog, let alone a child in a car under those conditions very mad I can't think of a single place in Spain where kids are not welcomed with open arms, was it he couldn't be bothered to take her mumbling

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Molly, background agitation is tricky, I made a few comments locally about the treatment of independence supporters in Catalonia by the police, got shouted down by the locals who seemed to think they all have been shot doh what they don't see is it'll be them next time.
Biff, your argument falls at the first fence laugh just taking motoring law, everyone has been or knows someone who has been fined for doing things that were considered totally normal, arm resting on window ledge, or as mentioned earlier shopping or a box on the seat, smoking whilst driving, having a row with a passenger, it goes on & on doh
Z, I have seen that attitude towards the Catalans too. From people I would expect more from.

I wonder do they have a deep-seated fear that the country will break up?

Poorer regions like Andalucia would probably be the losers if the more productive/richer areas like Catalonia and Pais Vasco got independence. I am sure those areas bring in a lot of the foreign investment & cash. If they go, there would be less for the poorer regions.
Molly, the only drawback in that argument is now there are so many laws you're almost bound to breaking one at any given time, so they just go around handing out fines, it's already the case that smoking outside in some ares is illegal, so smokers will soon be confined to there house, alone, forever professor so not much change there then rolling on the floor laughing
In the past there was less knowledge of danger.
You were told not to take sweets from strangers.
But unfortunately, it is now known that it is people close to kids are more likely to be a danger to them than the stranger who will abduct them whilst out playing
Maybe kids are safer out playing in full view dunno
Molly, it's a similar situation to the UK & Scotland, difference being the UK government allows people to vote out if that's what they want, it was a shame they needed a vote as the relationship will never be the same now, but had the UK sent in troops you can be fairly sure it would have gone the other way.
From an outsider perspective it's easy to see why Spain lacks investment from big business, who'd want to invest in a country with archaic employment law, riddled with red tape & corruption, they could turn the economy round in a year with the right leadership but seems every politician once elected is just in it to feed from the trough doh
Molly, I agree, kids are in far more danger from supposed trustworthy people, priests, members of the family, teachers etc, but now due to the misconception we have a generation growing up with a computer/phone screen instead of mates, not interacting with the world & as you say out of sight, I preferred the old days of a whole bunch of us roaming around no doubt causing mayhem laugh
Molly, if they did leave it would be very messy, whilst I feel the UK can get away with leaving the EU the Catalans might find it harder, they could end up with wiping out both theres & the Spanish economy with the bad feeling that exists between them, Spain would veto there membership & the large companies that operate there would probably pull out, would they move to Spain, who knows.
Is one country's veto enough to stop the process?
Molly, had my first car accident when I was around 4, riding my trike on the pavement & got hit by a car, the bike was a right off but I escaped without a scratch, it's all part of the learning curve, always struck me as odd that learner drivers in the UK were not allowed on motorways, even with an instructor, so you pass your test & instantly become an expert on driving on roads you've never done before wow same with kids, they'll be let loose on a world they have only internet knowledge of uh oh
Molly, yes as I understand it one veto is sufficient, in any even the EU would most likely back Spain as we saw with the not a word for weeks about the police involvement in Catalonia.
Here now, you are a novice after being a learner. You have an N plate instead of an L plate. Plus you have to get professional driving classes.
It was my mam and dad taught me to drive. First in a car park, then quiet country roads, etc.
But I guess now, with all the traffic on the roads, it is impossible to even get an empty carpark to practice in.
Molly, now you've hit on one of my pet hates, qualifications mumbling , this is just another way for the EU & powers that be to control everyday life, if you have to pass a driving test why does the instructor have to have qualifications dunno if you were taught well enough you'll pass the test, if not you won't, example, my ex business partner's girlfriend went through 3 driving schools & failed 3 tests, so I said I'll teach her, never had any training whatsoever to do so, took her out about 6 times & she passed, so much for qualifications mumbling
Yeah, I wasn't in favour of the system changing either.
It worked well enough.
I have yet to have an accident anyway laugh
I wonder if I'd still be covered, I taught myself when I was 12 laugh if I didn't have any lessons then I couldn't have a qualified instructor dunno laugh
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