I dont need to read a friggin book to tell me whats right or wrong. My parents did So did all ancestors. To say you need a higher power to decide whats wrong or right shows you are not capable of deciding as a human. So you are just a blind follower.
again, the opposite is true. i see very clearly. i think the point of this thread has slipped away a little bit.it is about simple respect. i am sure if someone insulted something that was sacred to you, you would defend vehemently. truth is, there is not a man or woman alive today that could endure the punishment,pain or degredation that Jesus endured. We consider that sacred and the least an open minded person like you and others here can do is respect that whether you believe it or not. love, mercy,kindness,redemption, it doesn't take a world class intellectual to understand these things. if you want tolerance and respect for your beliefs/point of view, it's only logical for Christians to expect the same. feed the hungry, clothe the naked,help the infirmed, do not lie, cheat or steal. what is so offensive to you guys?
teacherman: again, the opposite is true. i see very clearly. i think the point of this thread has slipped away a little bit.it is about simple respect. i am sure if someone insulted something that was sacred to you, you would defend vehemently. truth is, there is not a man or woman alive today that could endure the punishment,pain or degredation that Jesus endured. We consider that sacred and the least an open minded person like you and others here can do is respect that whether you believe it or not. love, mercy,kindness,redemption, it doesn't take a world class intellectual to understand these things. if you want tolerance and respect for your beliefs/point of view, it's only logical for Christians to expect the same. feed the hungry, clothe the naked,help the infirmed, do not lie, cheat or steal. what is so offensive to you guys?
Jesus is right my friend. "During the end of time there will be afalling away of the church. men will become lovers of themselves." Don't be discouraged friend. These nice people are just proving what jesus said 2000 yrs ago!
lovinglaura: Jesus is right my friend. "During the end of time there will be afalling away of the church. men will become lovers of themselves." Don't be discouraged friend. These nice people are just proving what jesus said 2000 yrs ago!
Jesus also states that "God will turn u over to a reprobate mind" so again prophesy is being fulfilled everyday. i choose Jesus!
teacherman: again, the opposite is true. i see very clearly. i think the point of this thread has slipped away a little bit.it is about simple respect. i am sure if someone insulted something that was sacred to you, you would defend vehemently. truth is, there is not a man or woman alive today that could endure the punishment,pain or degredation that Jesus endured. We consider that sacred and the least an open minded person like you and others here can do is respect that whether you believe it or not. love, mercy,kindness,redemption, it doesn't take a world class intellectual to understand these things. if you want tolerance and respect for your beliefs/point of view, it's only logical for Christians to expect the same. feed the hungry, clothe the naked,help the infirmed, do not lie, cheat or steal. what is so offensive to you guys?
rodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands3,401 posts
teacherman: exactly right my friend, a man, not Jesus. all the attrocities you mentioned were carried out by men, men who thought they could misconstrue their despicable deeds as the will of God. My point is those things were done by men that were not carrying out His teachings. There are no flaws in Jesus' teachings, The flaws are in man's interpretation.
rodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands3,401 posts
lovinglaura: This is a song by Glenn Danzig. I think he sums up how non-believers view Christians and Jesus. These words are off of his cd Lucifuge: it's entitled, "Snakes of Christ" time to run time to hide holy war in the land of fire never tempt the wrath of Gods gonna dance in the depth of light take the hand enter the world just remember you will surely die never sell evil for lies gonna give you the kiss of life
serpents of the lord crawling to the will of God serpents of your lord crawling all evil
Serpent jesus snake of christ nailed to a cross of a holy design blood to water water to wine whip the soul til a mother cries bring it down pierce the side start the legend w/ a funeral rite Serpent jesus snake of christ gonna build you a world of lies
Nice song but do you grasp the concept GOD IS NOT A CHRISTIAN
teacherman: again, the opposite is true. i see very clearly. i think the point of this thread has slipped away a little bit.it is about simple respect. i am sure if someone insulted something that was sacred to you, you would defend vehemently. truth is, there is not a man or woman alive today that could endure the punishment,pain or degredation that Jesus endured. We consider that sacred and the least an open minded person like you and others here can do is respect that whether you believe it or not. love, mercy,kindness,redemption, it doesn't take a world class intellectual to understand these things. if you want tolerance and respect for your beliefs/point of view, it's only logical for Christians to expect the same. feed the hungry, clothe the naked,help the infirmed, do not lie, cheat or steal. what is so offensive to you guys?
Brilliant. Last I remember it was a self-professed Christian Nation that started a war against innocent people and lots of Christians killed and tortured innocent people. Then, when those people come to embrace capitalism, we feed them. We've been doing that for decades.
I'm not even going to get into the do not lie, steal or cheat precepts because it requires no intellectual to know that that those are clearly "optional".
When the many Christians stop giving lip service to the tentets of the faith, and practice what they preach, I'll be happy to respect them for what they believe.
I'm an autonomous, thinking person. I feel insulted when people try to tell me how to live when they themselves do not know the difference between right, wrong, good and evil.
bodleing: Sod the bible...you said it, do you believe it?
duh didn't i say i was a christian. Well, i believe in the bible. it's not my job to push the heaven or hell button, it's God's. that who everyone will see to determine what the deal is.
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I dont need to read a friggin book to tell me whats right or wrong.
My parents did
So did all ancestors.
To say you need a higher power to decide whats wrong or right shows you are not capable of deciding as a human. So you are just a blind follower.
again, the opposite is true. i see very clearly. i think the point of this thread has slipped away a little bit.it is about simple respect. i am sure if someone insulted something that was sacred to you, you would defend vehemently. truth is, there is not a man or woman alive today that could endure the punishment,pain or degredation that Jesus endured. We consider that sacred and the least an open minded person like you and others here can do is respect that whether you believe it or not. love, mercy,kindness,redemption, it doesn't take a world class intellectual to understand these things. if you want tolerance and respect for your beliefs/point of view, it's only logical for Christians to expect the same. feed the hungry, clothe the naked,help the infirmed, do not lie, cheat or steal. what is so offensive to you guys?