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marc62Kalispell, Montana USA3 Threads 274 PostsI think this thread should be moved to the politics or religion section before it grows to 50 pages. Can the moderators do that?
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DJMcC: Wow so you know more about what happens in Muslim countries than I do, well thats just side stepping again and not adressing the issues........so explain the acid splashed in faces of young girls........their crime attending school? gee I havent seen that happen in any western countries
Could you please give me your source for this statement , I am interested to see it.
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UpYourViva:
We all like different things but you and I both know we wouldn't look at an ugly girl and think wow got to look at her profile, we would by pass it and look for someone who we like the look of.
We all like different things but you and I both know we wouldn't look at an ugly girl and think wow got to look at her profile, we would by pass it and look for someone who we like the look of.
I agree and that is what some are saying. Some find the OP unattractive because of the facial hair and therefore them pass him by...as we all do when we find someone unattractive to us.
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He may be better on a Muslim site. I'm sure girls would like him there but in the West we are not use to that look. Saying you don't like facial hair is fine...but we are not talking about someone who has a beard for style reasons or because he's a hippie, it's to do with his culture.
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Steve5721: I agree and that is what some are saying. Some find the OP unattractive because of the facial hair and therefore them pass him by...as we all do when we find someone unattractive to us.
Would that have been said in the way it was said, if there weren't so much anti-Muslim propaganda in the West?
We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
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jac379: Would that have been said in the way it was said, if there weren't so much anti-Muslim propaganda in the West?
We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
excellent Post We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
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jac379: Would that have been said in the way it was said, if there weren't so much anti-Muslim propaganda in the West?
We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
No Jac, I wasn't bringing anything religious into my post...merely that some ladies do find his facial hair unattractive and pass him on by. I would do the same if I saw a photo of a lady and I didn't find attractive, I would pass her on by. There has to be physical attraction there in the first place, for me anyway...ergo if there isn't, I pass on by.
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ali110: excellent Post
So, what do you think of my other two posts, Ali?
Jac xxx
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jac379: So, what do you think of my other two posts, Ali?
Jac xxx
I have read ur this post only and u posted the truth wth sensible words Jac xxx
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jac379: Would that have been said in the way it was said, if there weren't so much anti-Muslim propaganda in the West?
We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
We are inundated with stuff in the media about how scary Muslim (particularly) men are.
There have been other threads like this and I don't recall women feeling quite so justified in being rude before.
Ergo, we are just as much a product of our environment as anyone else. Some things are good and some things are bad in any culture.
We should all strive to move on and improve.
Jac xxx
The rudeness and insulting manner of some op's is beyond belief, he did not insult or denigrate our style of dressing or our religeon, this sort of behaviour just shows a parochial mind.
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Steve5721: No Jac, I wasn't bringing anything religious into my post...merely that some ladies do find his facial hair unattractive and pass him on by. I would do the same if I saw a photo of a lady and I didn't find attractive, I would pass her on by. There has to be physical attraction there in the first place, for me anyway...ergo if there isn't, I pass on by.
Absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more.
I still think, however, that ahmen khan's traditional appearance has incited a particular kind of rudeness in expressing that and that is based on assumptions triggered by the perception we have in the west of Muslim men.
This is an international forum. In some small way we have the opportunity to exchange ideas and grow.
Jac xxx
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jac379: Absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more.
I still think, however, that ahmen khan's traditional appearance has incited a particular kind of rudeness in expressing that and that is based on assumptions triggered by the perception we have in the west of Muslim men.
Jac xxx
I still think, however, that ahmen khan's traditional appearance has incited a particular kind of rudeness in expressing that and that is based on assumptions triggered by the perception we have in the west of Muslim men.
Jac xxx
You might well be correct Jac and let's be blunt about it, some of the perceptions are correct in many cases. Both you and I are fully aware of the constaints placed on some females in the muslim world. However, that perception had to start somehwere and one must ask why we do have this perception...it didn't come from fantasy land.
Let us look at the problem, persay. He wishes to marry a female, no problem there. That female will have to convert to his faith for he says he cannot marry a non muslim...first problem is there, for he CAN marry a practising christian or jew, according to al-Maa'idah 5:4. I cannot honestly see that many, if any, on here will be willing to do that.
He WOULD be far better off on a muslim dating site because on here, his chances of finding who he seeks is nigh on zero.
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arman_khan81: the idea grown by reviewing the profiles of girls i hv seen so far is something like -- they want handsome guys, they want loving and caring person and they want the guys to love them 4 what they r. but whats wrong with a guy who is trustworthy, honest, educated, loves kids, has faith on God but not handsome?? why the girls skip just seeing the photo? why they dont want to love a guy 4 what he is?????
We all judge by looks first.Sad, but true.
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Steve5721: You might well be correct Jac and let's be blunt about it, some of the perceptions are correct in many cases. Both you and I are fully aware of the constaints placed on some females in the muslim world. However, that perception had to start somehwere and one must ask why we do have this perception...it didn't come from fantasy land.
Let us look at the problem, persay. He wishes to marry a female, no problem there. That female will have to convert to his faith for he says he cannot marry a non muslim...first problem is there, for he CAN marry a practising christian or jew, according to al-Maa'idah 5:4. I cannot honestly see that many, if any, on here will be willing to do that.
He WOULD be far better off on a muslim dating site because on here, his chances of finding who he seeks is nigh on zero.
Let us look at the problem, persay. He wishes to marry a female, no problem there. That female will have to convert to his faith for he says he cannot marry a non muslim...first problem is there, for he CAN marry a practising christian or jew, according to al-Maa'idah 5:4. I cannot honestly see that many, if any, on here will be willing to do that.
He WOULD be far better off on a muslim dating site because on here, his chances of finding who he seeks is nigh on zero.
But the children of a mixed catholic marriage must be brought up as catholics if they wish to be married in a catholic church, should catholics go on a catholic dating site?
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tomcatwarne: But the children of a mixed catholic marriage must be brought up as catholics if they wish to be married in a catholic church, should catholics go on a catholic dating site?
Many don't marry in churches nowadays as it is.
However, it is my belief that a non catholic CAN marry in a catholic church but I believe that it would be a ceremony outside of the Mass.
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Steve5721: You might well be correct Jac and let's be blunt about it, some of the perceptions are correct in many cases. Both you and I are fully aware of the constaints placed on some females in the muslim world. However, that perception had to start somehwere and one must ask why we do have this perception...it didn't come from fantasy land.
Again, I agree that there are numerous inequalities for Muslim women, but there is also only a very thin veneer of equality for western women. The thing that bugs me, is the perception that ALL Muslim men must be a certain way simply because they are Muslim and vice versa with Western men. We are fuelled in the media with a "them wrong, us right mentality". Unless we look beyond that, none of us can move on
Lovely Steve: Let us look at the problem, persay. He wishes to marry a female, no problem there. That female will have to convert to his faith for he says he cannot marry a non muslim...first problem is there, for he CAN marry a practising christian or jew, according to al-Maa'idah 5:4. I cannot honestly see that many, if any, on here will be willing to do that.
That may be so, but only he can decide whether this site is right for him. Only a woman can decide if that is right for her.
aka the tart: He WOULD be far better off on a muslim dating site because on here, his chances of finding who he seeks is nigh on zero.
The chances of any of us finding who we seek are pretty slim! Maybe this site has more than one function. We can learn the best of each other's cultures and take them with us into future relationships. We can gain understanding and empathy of people as individuals, rather than view with blanket prejudice.
I hope that none of us are entirely wasting our time on here. I have learned a lot. Maybe this is a good site for ahman khan, but like all of us he shouldn't get too hung up on finding love and take it for what it is.
The fact that he is on this site, rather than a Muslim site, suggests he is prepared to look beyond his own culture and perceptions.
So should we all.
Jac xxx
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Hi OP
You post has many elements of truth.. sadly, but for me..
I would not want to date someone from such a different cultural background.. Its not that I may not like you as a soul.. not at all, you probably are lovely, trustworthy and all of what you mention... but I always think to myself..
What could be the implications of going down that road.. the 'whatifs' for me are scary, not only for a different culture, but also for any fella.. of any color and race...that is different to my own...
so awful as it might seem, I need to be half certain of my actions before I take a flying leap into the unknown.. any unknown... and inside for me... it has to feel right.. so please excuse me if I dont go looking for anomalies in my life..
I wish you well, and if you want friends please join in, you will find we are quite a friendly bunch generally... but with all the scammers around please be aware that we may want to get to know you thru posting before we leap...
and as for me.. and probably others.. please be mindful, that we are just here for chat and friendship, not all of us are looking for a fella.
Peace to you...
You post has many elements of truth.. sadly, but for me..
I would not want to date someone from such a different cultural background.. Its not that I may not like you as a soul.. not at all, you probably are lovely, trustworthy and all of what you mention... but I always think to myself..
What could be the implications of going down that road.. the 'whatifs' for me are scary, not only for a different culture, but also for any fella.. of any color and race...that is different to my own...
so awful as it might seem, I need to be half certain of my actions before I take a flying leap into the unknown.. any unknown... and inside for me... it has to feel right.. so please excuse me if I dont go looking for anomalies in my life..
I wish you well, and if you want friends please join in, you will find we are quite a friendly bunch generally... but with all the scammers around please be aware that we may want to get to know you thru posting before we leap...
and as for me.. and probably others.. please be mindful, that we are just here for chat and friendship, not all of us are looking for a fella.
Peace to you...
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jac379:
The fact that he is on this site, rather than a Muslim site, suggests he is prepared to look beyond his own culture and perceptions.
Jac xxx
The fact that he is on this site, rather than a Muslim site, suggests he is prepared to look beyond his own culture and perceptions.
Jac xxx
Or maybe it's free?
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Steve5721: Or maybe it's free?
Hey Steve
Show me one thing that is free in this life..??? I am sooooo confused.... Jeesh
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Steve5721: Or maybe it's free?
You old cynic, you.
You could argue, in that case, money is a greater issue than avoiding fraternisation with us infidels.
That is at least one step closer to world peace, huh?
Tee hee hee.
Jac xxx
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