SCatlyn: I will agree with you on Mugabe. I have a friend from the U.K.(not a C.S. member-btw -tho I have several U.K. friends here), who served in many places in Africa. He had to watch his beloved African guide being eaten by a crocodile - that guide saved his life by giving up his own. My friend says he would tear Mugabe apart limb by limb if he ever came across him in a dark alley.
If he want to kill i know where is use to make his shopping, its easy to catch him there. Really African has a lot of problem and and its only the African who can solve this problem. we have followed western advice for so long and the good it does is lesser to compare with their preachings and promises. I was 13yrs old when i started hearing of poverty eradication in Africa but suffering of those days is like Christmas of today. Americans and European youths should help us take to the street as it is happening in the north Africa and demand that heir leaders should stop pushing Africans to tighter conner. these big guys should come open and tell us the truth
Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA1,225 posts
time4fun4u: I say,your daughter has good taste.I once bought a coffee from a roadside cafe,just to "rough it".
I'm lucky my daughter don't like coffee! LMAO! When her and her cousin went out once I had to fork out over $100 for her meal! OMG! I started to have heart palpatations! She also has to have that android phone! What is it with teenagers? Why can't they be happy playing in boxes?
Colleene1024: I'm lucky my daughter don't like coffee! LMAO! When her and her cousin went out once I had to fork out over $100 for her meal! OMG! I started to have heart palpatations! She also has to have that android phone! What is it with teenagers? Why can't they be happy playing in boxes?
yes that is what he is going to do he will choose to kill him self than to be arrested.but he will do something that the world will ever live to remember and i know God will never blame him cos he has been pushed to the wall every leader is a killer so how you kill the people and how many people you kill may matter in sight of men but equal in God sight. Question. If a British solder in war front kills a civilian by accident, upon whose head the blood will be??
d_simple: If he want to kill i know where is use to make his shopping, its easy to catch him there. Really African has a lot of problem and and its only the African who can solve this problem. we have followed western advice for so long and the good it does is lesser to compare with their preachings and promises. I was 13yrs old when i started hearing of poverty eradication in Africa but suffering of those days is like Christmas of today. Americans and European youths should help us take to the street as it is happening in the north Africa and demand that heir leaders should stop pushing Africans to tighter conner. these big guys should come open and tell us the truth
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
emmaline: in a way i see your point, but i must insist there is no defense when the libyans were protesting peacefully, without arms.
people have every right to do so and not be fired upon
I agree with what you say, and lets get it straight gaddafi didn't do things correctly, and will no doubt suffer the consequences. But I just wonder how the unarmed protester are taking major cities against trained militia, and holding them. Can you explain this to me. I really do want to understand. At the moment gadaffi has a free run with his army and trained people. I feel there must be an element of outside help, not that I would argue with that.
gininitaly: Maybe some people do not care at all about anything but their own point of view... but it's a free world on the internet, isn't it? And money makes the world go round, doesn't it?
Isn't it true that we are not able to philosophically, morally or financially help the people in rebellion right now in the middle east because of our past complications?
No one said you had to agree... if you don't like what someone says, simply bow out.
Agree
Yes Gin it's true....some of us admit it and some still argue with Yadda Yadda Yadda.. (nothing factual) Nobody trust our motives anymore, and frankly it is easy to understand why...
tomcatwarne: I agree with what you say, and lets get it straight gaddafi didn't do things correctly, and will no doubt suffer the consequences. But I just wonder how the unarmed protester are taking major cities against trained militia, and holding them. Can you explain this to me. I really do want to understand. At the moment gadaffi has a free run with his army and trained people. I feel there must be an element of outside help, not that I would argue with that.
they are armed now, but with the first protests they weren't, and they were fired upon
think some of military sided with them, and thats how the protesters got the arms.
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 posts
d_simple: If he want to kill i know where is use to make his shopping, its easy to catch him there. Really African has a lot of problem and and its only the African who can solve this problem. we have followed western advice for so long and the good it does is lesser to compare with their preachings and promises. I was 13yrs old when i started hearing of poverty eradication in Africa but suffering of those days is like Christmas of today. Americans and European youths should help us take to the street as it is happening in the north Africa and demand that heir leaders should stop pushing Africans to tighter conner. these big guys should come open and tell us the truth
You say Africa's getting worse, I suspect you're right - yet the West has less to do with Africa today than it used to?
Colleene1024West Warwick, Rhode Island USA1,225 posts
d_simple: yes that is what he is going to do he will choose to kill him self than to be arrested.but he will do something that the world will ever live to remember and i know God will never blame him cos he has been pushed to the wall every leader is a killer so how you kill the people and how many people you kill may matter in sight of men but equal in God sight. Question. If a British solder in war front kills a civilian by accident, upon whose head the blood will be??
I feel it would be on the soldiers head. I have seen documentaries where soldiers have accidently killed cavilians and feel guilty over it. the others not in the war zone, it doesn't have the same effect on cause they were not there, they did not to the shooting. If one kills someone the blood id on that persons hands.
NOW! Speaking of Gaddafi! A leader who ORDERS his men to kill. That is a different story all together! Death on purpose by order of another, the blood is on both peoples hands. As you can see, there are more people against Gaddafi then for him. He has done alot of things to harm his people rather then help them. This uprising is proof of it.
Why then should people uphold a leader who is threatening to end them? The people want control of the country to make it a better place. It will keep happening all through the middle east. I'm not sure who will be next though. It is the people who want peace where the leader won't give it to them.
Colleene1024: I feel it would be on the soldiers head. I have seen documentaries where soldiers have accidently killed cavilians and feel guilty over it. the others not in the war zone, it doesn't have the same effect on cause they were not there, they did not to the shooting. If one kills someone the blood id on that persons hands.
NOW! Speaking of Gaddafi! A leader who ORDERS his men to kill. That is a different story all together! Death on purpose by order of another, the blood is on both peoples hands. As you can see, there are more people against Gaddafi then for him. He has done alot of things to harm his people rather then help them. This uprising is proof of it.
Why then should people uphold a leader who is threatening to end them? The people want control of the country to make it a better place. It will keep happening all through the middle east. I'm not sure who will be next though. It is the people who want peace where the leader won't give it to them.
emmaline: my democracy interpretation must be different to yours conrad.
Gnassingbé Eyadéma ruled Togo the world 4th in poverty ranking and when he died African leaders organized and hand power to his son Faure Gnassingbe under Democracy even when we all know that the election was rigged. The back bone of this regime is France. Paul Biya of Cameroon in his 25 years rule has made my Cameroonian brother believe that poverty is part of life. He always uses the method of salary increment. All this is under the so called democratic regime with his back bone France. Al Africans must agree with me that the poorest Libyan is happier than the richest man in Togo. Nigerian military massacred civilians in Benue state under the regime of Olusegun Obasanjo and no enquiry ,no arrest and no sentence till date,
emmaline: in a way i see your point, but i must insist there is no defense when the libyans were protesting peacefully, without arms.
people have every right to do so and not be fired upon
i do understand everything you say, arm or no arm. the American based groups all exiled Libyans who organized this protest could have studied it in and out before allowing people to take to the street. Thy know Gaddafi so good and know that he is like a mad dog when provoked, Gaddafi is among the leaders that does not care what the result of their action will be cos he is a man of pride, they could have known what his response should and think of other method. So this is the kind of democracy they studied in the USA for almost 45 years? its very funny
d_simple: Gnassingbé Eyadéma ruled Togo the world 4th in poverty ranking and when he died African leaders organized and hand power to his son Faure Gnassingbe under Democracy even when we all know that the election was rigged. The back bone of this regime is France. Paul Biya of Cameroon in his 25 years rule has made my Cameroonian brother believe that poverty is part of life. He always uses the method of salary increment. All this is under the so called democratic regime with his back bone France. Al Africans must agree with me that the poorest Libyan is happier than the richest man in Togo. Nigerian military massacred civilians in Benue state under the regime of Olusegun Obasanjo and no enquiry ,no arrest and no sentence till date,
d_simple: yes that is what he is going to do he will choose to kill him self than to be arrested.but he will do something that the world will ever live to remember and i know God will never blame him cos he has been pushed to the wall every leader is a killer so how you kill the people and how many people you kill may matter in sight of men but equal in God sight. Question. If a British solder in war front kills a civilian by accident, upon whose head the blood will be??
The wars fault... and mans need for greed an to find conflict in a tea cup and the 70 virgins calling to them... when as far as we know we are all just fertilizer for the next generation.
Colleene1024: I feel it would be on the soldiers head. I have seen documentaries where soldiers have accidently killed cavilians and feel guilty over it. the others not in the war zone, it doesn't have the same effect on cause they were not there, they did not to the shooting. If one kills someone the blood id on that persons hands.
NOW! Speaking of Gaddafi! A leader who ORDERS his men to kill. That is a different story all together! Death on purpose by order of another, the blood is on both peoples hands. As you can see, there are more people against Gaddafi then for him. He has done alot of things to harm his people rather then help them. This uprising is proof of it.
Why then should people uphold a leader who is threatening to end them? The people want control of the country to make it a better place. It will keep happening all through the middle east. I'm not sure who will be next though. It is the people who want peace where the leader won't give it to them.
IMHO as always
No sis Gaddafi never hated his people, if he does Libya could have been a forgotten story by now. Gaddafi surrendered his WMD willingly because he don't want any excuses to bring war on his people. Gaddafi as a person is more brave and stubborn than Kim Jong Il and Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad but he controls things in favor of his people. Which leader is righteous Obama????????
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My friend says he would tear Mugabe apart limb by limb if he ever came across him in a dark alley.
If he want to kill i know where is use to make his shopping, its easy to catch him there. Really African has a lot of problem and and its only the African who can solve this problem.
we have followed western advice for so long and the good it does is lesser to compare with their preachings and promises. I was 13yrs old when i started hearing of poverty eradication in Africa but suffering of those days is like Christmas of today.
Americans and European youths should help us take to the street as it is happening in the north Africa and demand that heir leaders should stop pushing Africans to tighter conner.
these big guys should come open and tell us the truth