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Some news on the democrazy front. Seems to be good news for unity of the country as opposed to the splitting off of east from west.
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Libya opposition launches council
Protesters in Benghazi form a national council "to give the revolution a face".
Last Modified: 27 Feb 2011 20:00 GMT
Opposition protesters in eastern Libya have formed a national council, pledging to help free areas of the country still under Muammar Gaddafi's rule.
Hafiz Ghoga, spokesman for the new National Libyan Council that was launched in the city of Benghazi on Sunday, said the council was not an interim government.
"The main aim of the national council is to have a political face ... for the revolution," Ghoga told a news conference after the gathering to announce the council's formation.
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"We will help liberate other Libyan cities, in particular Tripoli through our national army, our armed forces, of which
part have announced their support for the people," Ghoga said.
On Saturday, former justice minister Mustafa Mohamed Abdel Jalil - who resigned from Gaddafi's cabinet on Monday in protest at the killing of protesters - told Al Jazeera he had led the formation of a body which would lead the country for three months to prepare for elections.
Both Libya's ambassador to the US and its deputy UN ambassador said they supported the initiative.
Ex-minister taking lead
Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel-Hamid, reporting from Benghazi, said there was an understanding that the uprisings in different cities that have fallen into the hands of the opposition need to be concentrated under one umbrella to counter the regime.
"The ex-justice minister is taking the lead in this movement," she said.
"They have five representatives of each city or town and each time a new one falls, they immediately establish contact to have that city or town join this national council.
"There is a feeling here in the east that if they stay separated from the rest of the country, then it will soon look like a secessionist movement rather than an uprising."
Ghoga said the newly formed council was not contacting foreign governments and did not want them to intervene.
His comments came after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington was "reaching out" to opposition groups in the east.and was prepared to offer "any kind of assistance" to Libyans seeking to overthrow the regime.
"We are reaching out to many different Libyans in the east as the revolution moves westward there as well," she said.
In places such as Benghazi that have ejected Gaddafi's loyalists, citizens have set up committees to act as a local authority and run services.
Gaddafi and his supporters still control Tripoli, but their grip beyond the capital has been shrinking, with protesters taking over Zawiyah and Misurata in the western part of the country.
Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
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Libya opposition launches council
Protesters in Benghazi form a national council "to give the revolution a face".
Last Modified: 27 Feb 2011 20:00 GMT
Opposition protesters in eastern Libya have formed a national council, pledging to help free areas of the country still under Muammar Gaddafi's rule.
Hafiz Ghoga, spokesman for the new National Libyan Council that was launched in the city of Benghazi on Sunday, said the council was not an interim government.
"The main aim of the national council is to have a political face ... for the revolution," Ghoga told a news conference after the gathering to announce the council's formation.
LIVE BLOG
"We will help liberate other Libyan cities, in particular Tripoli through our national army, our armed forces, of which
part have announced their support for the people," Ghoga said.
On Saturday, former justice minister Mustafa Mohamed Abdel Jalil - who resigned from Gaddafi's cabinet on Monday in protest at the killing of protesters - told Al Jazeera he had led the formation of a body which would lead the country for three months to prepare for elections.
Both Libya's ambassador to the US and its deputy UN ambassador said they supported the initiative.
Ex-minister taking lead
Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel-Hamid, reporting from Benghazi, said there was an understanding that the uprisings in different cities that have fallen into the hands of the opposition need to be concentrated under one umbrella to counter the regime.
"The ex-justice minister is taking the lead in this movement," she said.
"They have five representatives of each city or town and each time a new one falls, they immediately establish contact to have that city or town join this national council.
"There is a feeling here in the east that if they stay separated from the rest of the country, then it will soon look like a secessionist movement rather than an uprising."
Ghoga said the newly formed council was not contacting foreign governments and did not want them to intervene.
His comments came after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington was "reaching out" to opposition groups in the east.and was prepared to offer "any kind of assistance" to Libyans seeking to overthrow the regime.
"We are reaching out to many different Libyans in the east as the revolution moves westward there as well," she said.
In places such as Benghazi that have ejected Gaddafi's loyalists, citizens have set up committees to act as a local authority and run services.
Gaddafi and his supporters still control Tripoli, but their grip beyond the capital has been shrinking, with protesters taking over Zawiyah and Misurata in the western part of the country.
Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
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gininitaly: Oh like you should talk.
Doesn't keep you from spreading your agenda from where you are... so he doesn't have the same right?
tsk tsk
seeing words that ain't there again?Doesn't keep you from spreading your agenda from where you are... so he doesn't have the same right?
tsk tsk
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Conrad73: Question?
How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
When was there ever any such thing as African Unity?
The Tribes made War on each other way before the Arabs or the Europeans showed up!
So quit blaming others and get cracking!
Wow! what a European statement!! The kids from Stormfront and White Supremacy would be so proud of you!!How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
When was there ever any such thing as African Unity?
The Tribes made War on each other way before the Arabs or the Europeans showed up!
So quit blaming others and get cracking!
The African tribes could have been fighting as the Europeans did all the time, so there are two questions: did they then deserve the punishment of the European savagery?, and the second: which one of these two cultures (African or European) was more destructive in its nature to spread the destruction and sacking to other places?
I would love to get substantial answers.. I rather go back to debate with the kids at White Supremacy, some of them are more correct and more educated than many I know here.
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Antjo39: Wow! what a European statement!! The kids from Stormfront and White Supremacy would be so proud of you!!
The African tribes could have been fighting as the Europeans did all the time, so there are two questions: did they then deserve the punishment of the European savagery?, and the second: which one of these two cultures (African or European) was more destructive in its nature to spread the destruction and sacking to other places?
I would love to get substantial answers.. I rather go back to debate with the kids at White Supremacy, some of them are more correct and more educated than many I know here.
The African tribes could have been fighting as the Europeans did all the time, so there are two questions: did they then deserve the punishment of the European savagery?, and the second: which one of these two cultures (African or European) was more destructive in its nature to spread the destruction and sacking to other places?
I would love to get substantial answers.. I rather go back to debate with the kids at White Supremacy, some of them are more correct and more educated than many I know here.
hey baby
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emmaline: hey baby
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Conrad73: seeing words that ain't there again?
Finally... one mystery solved! (May be time for new 
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Conrad73: seeing words that ain't there again?
conrad you do comment on other countries affairs. thats the point gin made
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SCatlyn: Please state in what ways; and be specific, beginning with Nixon - compare how Gaddafi has been a better leader than each you have mentioned.
(And any Wikipedia references just don't cut it; while some are very useful, they are only as useful as their accuracy. As Wikipedia itself states, it's info is submitted by a collective of others, with much being unverified)
(And any Wikipedia references just don't cut it; while some are very useful, they are only as useful as their accuracy. As Wikipedia itself states, it's info is submitted by a collective of others, with much being unverified)
OMG we're not writing essays here, i think i will start properly citing and referencing my information, because im scared i will get banned from this site for plagiarising!!!
are you an english teacher or something, all you do is pick out everyone elses mistakes be them grammar or views.
btw i did realise i left out a few commas, but i would love for you to point out my mistakes for me.
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SCatlyn: Finally... one mystery solved! (May be time for new specs)
Conrad73: Question?
How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
I wear my glasses, do you?
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Paldi5: Some news on the democrazy front. Seems to be good news for unity of the country as opposed to the splitting off of east from west.
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Libya opposition launches council
Protesters in Benghazi form a national council "to give the revolution a face".
Last Modified: 27 Feb 2011 20:00 GMT
Opposition protesters in eastern Libya have formed a national council, pledging to help free areas of the country still under Muammar Gaddafi's rule.
Hafiz Ghoga, spokesman for the new National Libyan Council that was launched in the city of Benghazi on Sunday, said the council was not an interim government.
"The main aim of the national council is to have a political face ... for the revolution," Ghoga told a news conference after the gathering to announce the council's formation.
LIVE BLOG
"We will help liberate other Libyan cities, in particular Tripoli through our national army, our armed forces, of which
part have announced their support for the people," Ghoga said.
On Saturday, former justice minister Mustafa Mohamed Abdel Jalil - who resigned from Gaddafi's cabinet on Monday in protest at the killing of protesters - told Al Jazeera he had led the formation of a body which would lead the country for three months to prepare for elections.
Both Libya's ambassador to the US and its deputy UN ambassador said they supported the initiative.
Ex-minister taking lead
Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel-Hamid, reporting from Benghazi, said there was an understanding that the uprisings in different cities that have fallen into the hands of the opposition need to be concentrated under one umbrella to counter the regime.
"The ex-justice minister is taking the lead in this movement," she said.
"They have five representatives of each city or town and each time a new one falls, they immediately establish contact to have that city or town join this national council.
"There is a feeling here in the east that if they stay separated from the rest of the country, then it will soon look like a secessionist movement rather than an uprising."
Ghoga said the newly formed council was not contacting foreign governments and did not want them to intervene.
His comments came after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington was "reaching out" to opposition groups in the east.and was prepared to offer "any kind of assistance" to Libyans seeking to overthrow the regime.
"We are reaching out to many different Libyans in the east as the revolution moves westward there as well," she said.
In places such as Benghazi that have ejected Gaddafi's loyalists, citizens have set up committees to act as a local authority and run services.
Gaddafi and his supporters still control Tripoli, but their grip beyond the capital has been shrinking, with protesters taking over Zawiyah and Misurata in the western part of the country.
Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
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Libya opposition launches council
Protesters in Benghazi form a national council "to give the revolution a face".
Last Modified: 27 Feb 2011 20:00 GMT
Opposition protesters in eastern Libya have formed a national council, pledging to help free areas of the country still under Muammar Gaddafi's rule.
Hafiz Ghoga, spokesman for the new National Libyan Council that was launched in the city of Benghazi on Sunday, said the council was not an interim government.
"The main aim of the national council is to have a political face ... for the revolution," Ghoga told a news conference after the gathering to announce the council's formation.
LIVE BLOG
"We will help liberate other Libyan cities, in particular Tripoli through our national army, our armed forces, of which
part have announced their support for the people," Ghoga said.
On Saturday, former justice minister Mustafa Mohamed Abdel Jalil - who resigned from Gaddafi's cabinet on Monday in protest at the killing of protesters - told Al Jazeera he had led the formation of a body which would lead the country for three months to prepare for elections.
Both Libya's ambassador to the US and its deputy UN ambassador said they supported the initiative.
Ex-minister taking lead
Al Jazeera's Hoda Abdel-Hamid, reporting from Benghazi, said there was an understanding that the uprisings in different cities that have fallen into the hands of the opposition need to be concentrated under one umbrella to counter the regime.
"The ex-justice minister is taking the lead in this movement," she said.
"They have five representatives of each city or town and each time a new one falls, they immediately establish contact to have that city or town join this national council.
"There is a feeling here in the east that if they stay separated from the rest of the country, then it will soon look like a secessionist movement rather than an uprising."
Ghoga said the newly formed council was not contacting foreign governments and did not want them to intervene.
His comments came after US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Washington was "reaching out" to opposition groups in the east.and was prepared to offer "any kind of assistance" to Libyans seeking to overthrow the regime.
"We are reaching out to many different Libyans in the east as the revolution moves westward there as well," she said.
In places such as Benghazi that have ejected Gaddafi's loyalists, citizens have set up committees to act as a local authority and run services.
Gaddafi and his supporters still control Tripoli, but their grip beyond the capital has been shrinking, with protesters taking over Zawiyah and Misurata in the western part of the country.
Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
Now everyone and his uncle will jump on the bandwagon. If the protesters are going to make the most of their new country they must establish a viable governing body, which can control daily life in Libya, and maintain law and order. Also a viable government which can negotiate internationally and come up with the goods.
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tomcatwarne: Now everyone and his uncle will jump on the bandwagon. If the protesters are going to make the most of their new country they must establish a viable governing body, which can control daily life in Libya, and maintain law and order. Also a viable government which can negotiate internationally and come up with the goods.
At least they are trying to find solutions.
They might end up having to do like the former Yugoslavia and divide... altho even there the animosities haven't subsided. I guess it will remain up in the air until Gaddafi is out of the picture.
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Berlin: The European Union today approved a package of sanctions against Muammar Gaddafi, including immediate freezing of all assets of the Libyan dictator, his family and close associates and imposing arms embargo, as part of global effort to mount pressure on the crumbling regime.
The EU decision, which was taken unanimously at a meeting of its energy ministers in Brussels, comes after several days' dispute over sanctions between southern and northern member-nations.
A press statement after the EU Energy Council meeting said the EU is freezing the bank accounts and properties of Gaddafi and five members of his family as well as 20 other people "responsible for the violent crackdown" on anti-government demonstrators in Libya.
The EU's measures are directed against Col Gaddafi, his family and close associates of his regime, a spokesperson for the EU foreign police chief Catherine Ashton told journalists in Brussels.
The EU also barred all members of his family and top government officials from travelling to Europe and imposed an embargo on arms exports to Libya.
The EU also stopped the sale to Libya of equipment, which could be used against the demonstrators demanding an end to Col Gaddafi's 41-year rule.
The southern nations, especially Italy, feared a massive influx of refugees from north Africa if the Gaddafi regime retaliated by opening its borders and demanded financial support from their partners to cope with the crisis.
European Union's move follows the United Nations Security Council agreement on Saturday to back sanctions against the Gaddafi regime.
The United States had taken the lead in imposing sanctions against the longest serving Arab despot by announcing an arms embargo and other measures at the end of last week.
The sanctions are in line with the UNSC decision, but the EU is also taking additional steps, the statement said.
Parallel to these sanctions, the EU is also trying to establish contacts with the Libyan opposition.
Col Gaddafi's opponents are reported to be in control of a large part of the country, 12 days after the uprising against his regime began in eastern Libya.
Reports from Paris said as the first EU nation, France today dispatched two aircraft carrying doctors, nurses, medical supplies and other humanitarian assistance to the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, which is now completely under the control of the opposition forces.
Meanwhile, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle called upon the international community to stop completely all money transfer to Libya to prevent the Gaddafi regime from using its oil income against the demonstrators demanding an end to his 41-year rule.
Speaking at the annual conference of the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva, Westerwelle proposed a 60-day freezing of all international money transfers to Libya, including the payment of oil bills.
"We must prevent that fresh money gets into the hands of Gaddafi," he said.
Just a question of time
The EU decision, which was taken unanimously at a meeting of its energy ministers in Brussels, comes after several days' dispute over sanctions between southern and northern member-nations.
A press statement after the EU Energy Council meeting said the EU is freezing the bank accounts and properties of Gaddafi and five members of his family as well as 20 other people "responsible for the violent crackdown" on anti-government demonstrators in Libya.
The EU's measures are directed against Col Gaddafi, his family and close associates of his regime, a spokesperson for the EU foreign police chief Catherine Ashton told journalists in Brussels.
The EU also barred all members of his family and top government officials from travelling to Europe and imposed an embargo on arms exports to Libya.
The EU also stopped the sale to Libya of equipment, which could be used against the demonstrators demanding an end to Col Gaddafi's 41-year rule.
The southern nations, especially Italy, feared a massive influx of refugees from north Africa if the Gaddafi regime retaliated by opening its borders and demanded financial support from their partners to cope with the crisis.
European Union's move follows the United Nations Security Council agreement on Saturday to back sanctions against the Gaddafi regime.
The United States had taken the lead in imposing sanctions against the longest serving Arab despot by announcing an arms embargo and other measures at the end of last week.
The sanctions are in line with the UNSC decision, but the EU is also taking additional steps, the statement said.
Parallel to these sanctions, the EU is also trying to establish contacts with the Libyan opposition.
Col Gaddafi's opponents are reported to be in control of a large part of the country, 12 days after the uprising against his regime began in eastern Libya.
Reports from Paris said as the first EU nation, France today dispatched two aircraft carrying doctors, nurses, medical supplies and other humanitarian assistance to the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, which is now completely under the control of the opposition forces.
Meanwhile, German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle called upon the international community to stop completely all money transfer to Libya to prevent the Gaddafi regime from using its oil income against the demonstrators demanding an end to his 41-year rule.
Speaking at the annual conference of the United Nations Human Rights Council in Geneva, Westerwelle proposed a 60-day freezing of all international money transfers to Libya, including the payment of oil bills.
"We must prevent that fresh money gets into the hands of Gaddafi," he said.
Just a question of time
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NextToYou: Conrad73: Question?
How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
When was there ever any such thing as African Unity?
The Tribes made War on each other way before the Arabs or the Europeans showed up!
So quit blaming others and get cracking!You are really very gentle to have even answered to such an arrogant statement. Glad to see people like you in here
How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
When was there ever any such thing as African Unity?
The Tribes made War on each other way before the Arabs or the Europeans showed up!
So quit blaming others and get cracking!You are really very gentle to have even answered to such an arrogant statement. Glad to see people like you in here
Yes d_simple has a very thick skin and is a thinker, he hangs in there like a pro... bless him.
Not that many want an African viewpoint as it seems so foreign to western minds, so absolutely good for all.
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Thanks Tom. 
Do you think people prefer a whole article or links...I never know?
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gininitaly: Thanks Tom. Do you think people prefer a whole article or links...I never know?
Well if you give them a link they just get the whole article afterwards, so I just shortcut it. But try to include the whole article, links are available if required.
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NextToYou: Conrad73: Question?
How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
When was there ever any such thing as African Unity?
The Tribes made War on each other way before the Arabs or the Europeans showed up!
So quit blaming others and get cracking!You are really very gentle to have even answered to such an arrogant statement. Glad to see people like you in here
Screwed up my quote again?How come you live far away in India?
When Africa is in such dire need?
When was there ever any such thing as African Unity?
The Tribes made War on each other way before the Arabs or the Europeans showed up!
So quit blaming others and get cracking!You are really very gentle to have even answered to such an arrogant statement. Glad to see people like you in here
When will you ever learn!
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Gaddafi forces mass as world raises pressure on Libya
By Maria Golovnina Maria Golovnina – 2 hrs 45 mins ago
TRIPOLI (Reuters) – Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi were massed in the west of the country on Tuesday, residents said, and the United States said it was moving warships and air forces closer to Libya.
Residents feared pro-Gaddafi forces were preparing an attack to regain control of Nalut, about 60 km (38 miles) from the Tunisian border in western Libya, from protesters seeking an end to Gaddafi's rule.
The United States and other foreign governments discussed military options on Monday for dealing with Libya as Gaddafi scoffed at the threat to his government from a popular uprising.
U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said Gaddafi was "disconnected from reality," was "slaughtering his own people" and was unfit to lead.
She said Washington was in talks with its NATO partners and other allies about military options. The United States also said about $30 billion in assets in the United States had been blocked from access by Gaddafi and his family.
British Prime Minister David Cameron said his government would work to prepare for a "no-fly" zone in Libya to protect the people from attacks by Gaddafi's forces.
Gaddafi rejected calls for him to step down and dismissed the strength of the uprising against his 41-year rule that has ended his control over eastern Libya and is closing in on the capital Tripoli.
"All my people love me. They would die to protect me," he told the U.S. ABC network and the BBC on Monday.
He denied using his air force to attack protesters but said planes had bombed military sites and ammunition depots. He also denied there had been demonstrations and said young people were given drugs by al Qaeda and therefore took to the streets. Libyan forces had orders not to fire back at them, he said.
LOOKING RELAXED AND LAUGHING
Gaddafi, 68, looked relaxed and laughed at times during the interview at a restaurant on Tripoli's Mediterranean coast.
Ambassador Rice called him "delusional.".................
Told you all that Idiot was playing for keeps!
At least Mubarak had the good sense to understand he was beaten,but this dumba** is gonna be another one dying a "Hero's Death" in the Fuhrer-Bunker!After taking thousands with him!
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i think they'll hang him.(well may be its my wish)i sooo much hate dictators
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Doesn't keep you from spreading your agenda from where you are... so he doesn't have the same right?
tsk tsk