Is it too much to ask?? (199)
galrads: Very euphemistically stated!
Very emphatically stated...as is usually the case with Fud....
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MISSEY8: Diolch yn fawr
I have done some serious thinking.
I have done some serious thinking.
Should have done that on the last thread that you posted 18 months ago. Same man I presume.Some people on here have good memories.
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bestbefore: Should have done that on the last thread that you posted 18 months ago. Same man I presume.Some people on here have good memories.
Apparently my memory isn't that good because I don't remember her writing that thread and even if I did I would still write the comment I just wrote. When I was writing my post I didn't know that you guys were ganging up on her but I still stand by what I said to her.
Whether she wrote it two years ago or not she is still in a dillema today. She has the sense to come to us for advice. People told me over and over that I was being used and I didn't listen.
It took longer than two years for me to believe what was going on in my situation.
And she still might come back a year from now and say she's better but she stills hear from him. Giver her a break. Her problems are more than a man calling her.
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MISSEY8: I have been with a guy for 3yrs now, He is Jewish and I recentky finished my conversion to Judaism to make my relationship with him easier. ...............I am on here as i thought maybe i should keep myself open to the possibility that there maybe someone out there for me if he doesnt want me.
Firstly Orthodox Judaism, (the only form I know much about really), is not so much a religion as a way of life. The commnities are tight-knit.
Converting to Judaism won't make you Jewish in the eyes of his family. It will make you the enemy. A woman has to be born a Jew for her children to be considered Orthodox Jewish.
I know there are as many versions of Judaism as there are any other religion, but old values hold sway when it comes to a man marrying.
You don't marry him..... You marry his family. You also marry his community. If you don't conform, you can have him thrown out of his community and shunned by his family.
Most Jews rely on their families and communities for work, education and observances. Without that, they lose everything they hold dear. There is huge pressure put on individals to conform.
Modern thinking Jews might not see it as a big deal, to date or marry outside the religion, but often they are few and far between, and their families have already excluded them from many community occasions.
Many Jewish men sew wild oats with non Jewish women. They usually have no intention to marry or have long term relationships because they marry virgins for the most part. (The orthodox ones do anyway).
Advice? Chalk it up to experience and move on. Any man who does not want you as you are, does not want you, and is not worth pursuing, never mind changing your religion for......
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venusenvy: Right now Cagey, this girl doesnt need a bunch of fluffy stuff...Thats what got her into this mess. She doesnt need tea and sympathy or someone to rub her tummy. She truly needs to give herself a shake. I raised 4 girls with straight-up common sense. If they came to me with a story like this I would shake them by the scruff ...just like Im trying to do here. She has got to leave the land of "what if" behind, its ruining her life. She is beautiful young and has a good heart. Shes just lost. The only way to see in the dark is with a very bright light. All the other vague fluff and stuff wont be remembered. My words I bet went straight to the heart. And will stick. Common sense goes a long way in this life...she needs to free herself with it now. If I didnt see hope for her, believe me, I wouldnt bother.
I wish i did have someone to to talk to other than people on here!! some of you have been really kind and understanding but the rest of you have been quite nasty.my parents are all dead!!! if i had my mother still alive i am sure she would have given me a good shake but unfortunately i dont have anyone my mother dies 5yrs ago, and maybe i threw myself into a relationship as i missed the love and attention i wanted so badly from my mother and i did believe this guy and its not that easy to break away wehn your mind is telling you to run as far as you can but your heart is saying no i love this guy and he says he loves me . but then when his family come he is a different man again a scenario i cannot seem to understand that he cannot give me any time.
so please be a little more sensitive when it comes to my situation as i am here on this site as I HAVE NO ONE TO TALK TO OR MOTHER EITHER. but to everyone who has been nice and helpfull i say a big thank you from the bottom of my heart.x
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MISSEY8: I wish i did have someone to to talk to other than people on here!! some of you have been really kind and understanding but the rest of you have been quite nasty.my parents are all dead!!! if i had my mother still alive i am sure she would have given me a good shake but unfortunately i dont have anyone my mother dies 5yrs ago, and maybe i threw myself into a relationship as i missed the love and attention i wanted so badly from my mother and i did believe this guy and its not that easy to break away wehn your mind is telling you to run as far as you can but your heart is saying no i love this guy and he says he loves me . but then when his family come he is a different man again a scenario i cannot seem to understand that he cannot give me any time.
so please be a little more sensitive when it comes to my situation as i am here on this site as I HAVE NO ONE TO TALK TO OR MOTHER EITHER. but to everyone who has been nice and helpfull i say a big thank you from the bottom of my heart.x
so please be a little more sensitive when it comes to my situation as i am here on this site as I HAVE NO ONE TO TALK TO OR MOTHER EITHER. but to everyone who has been nice and helpfull i say a big thank you from the bottom of my heart.x
Hello Missey,
My Parents also have been Deceased for many Years, and it sure dont make life and eaiser, Some have no Clue,
But My Recomendation is for you to Find a Female Friend who is Older than you who can be a true Friend and Mentor, This I really think will be a big Help,
Hotrod!
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Hi I just read your post with interest. From my perspective of your situation its obvious that you are way down on his list of priorities. He certainly is not upholding his own faith in terms of honesty and your relationship. Why are you waiting for him to decide if he wants you? Make your own decision.. cut your losses and move on. There are lots of nice guys out there that would treat you with the respect you deserve. Best of luck!
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P.S. I just answered your Post and forgot to add>>>>>>>>>
If you ever want someone to talk to then email me and we can chat there and maybe I can help you through this.
I will be praying for you.
Ted
If you ever want someone to talk to then email me and we can chat there and maybe I can help you through this.
I will be praying for you.
Ted
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Also to quote i cannot believe that that is a post done by me??? called Lindsey1651!!!! ye sthat i smy photo but that i didnt have a profile last year on here!!!!! my friends gave me this site 3wks ago and told me to try it as its not bad and free and have good forums!! so maybe if this is what i think it maybe looks like my friends did a false profile for me last year or year before whenever it maybe as they did set me up with a few phone numbers which i didnt call and was always trying to tell me that everyone thinks my situation is no good.
if this is true then i am so disgusted by the fact they set me up a profile but they have been very sneaky in hiding it as this is my only first time on here personally!
so i still say to bestbefore that my words to you are dont be so judgemental as this is MY FIRST TIME ON HERE WITH THESE WORDS COMING FROM MY MOUTH!!! so isnt it about time you got off here? looks like your still on here for a reason that your too nasty and poisoned tongued for any man to have you for any length of time.
sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be so judgmental about others.
this i will get to the bottom of now with my friends who gave me this STUPID SITE to humiliate me when they said i could get advice on here!!! so much for that looks like they had put stuff up for me a long time ago. now i get judged by an old nasty peice of work who is hell bent on making me look stupid. so well done bestbefore for making me look like an idiot for thinking this is my first ever post and telling the world that i am a liar and been on here before!! which i had no idea i ever had been.
if this is true then i am so disgusted by the fact they set me up a profile but they have been very sneaky in hiding it as this is my only first time on here personally!
so i still say to bestbefore that my words to you are dont be so judgemental as this is MY FIRST TIME ON HERE WITH THESE WORDS COMING FROM MY MOUTH!!! so isnt it about time you got off here? looks like your still on here for a reason that your too nasty and poisoned tongued for any man to have you for any length of time.
sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be so judgmental about others.
this i will get to the bottom of now with my friends who gave me this STUPID SITE to humiliate me when they said i could get advice on here!!! so much for that looks like they had put stuff up for me a long time ago. now i get judged by an old nasty peice of work who is hell bent on making me look stupid. so well done bestbefore for making me look like an idiot for thinking this is my first ever post and telling the world that i am a liar and been on here before!! which i had no idea i ever had been.
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MISSEY8: Also to quote i cannot believe that that is a post done by me??? called Lindsey1651!!!! ye sthat i smy photo but that i didnt have a profile last year on here!!!!! my friends gave me this site 3wks ago and told me to try it as its not bad and free and have good forums!! so maybe if this is what i think it maybe looks like my friends did a false profile for me last year or year before whenever it maybe as they did set me up with a few phone numbers which i didnt call and was always trying to tell me that everyone thinks my situation is no good.
if this is true then i am so disgusted by the fact they set me up a profile but they have been very sneaky in hiding it as this is my only first time on here personally!
so i still say to bestbefore that my words to you are dont be so judgemental as this is MY FIRST TIME ON HERE WITH THESE WORDS COMING FROM MY MOUTH!!! so isnt it about time you got off here? looks like your still on here for a reason that your too nasty and poisoned tongued for any man to have you for any length of time.
sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be so judgmental about others.
this i will get to the bottom of now with my friends who gave me this STUPID SITE to humiliate me when they said i could get advice on here!!! so much for that looks like they had put stuff up for me a long time ago. now i get judged by an old nasty peice of work who is hell bent on making me look stupid. so well done bestbefore for making me look like an idiot for thinking this is my first ever post and telling the world that i am a liar and been on here before!! which i had no idea i ever had been.
if this is true then i am so disgusted by the fact they set me up a profile but they have been very sneaky in hiding it as this is my only first time on here personally!
so i still say to bestbefore that my words to you are dont be so judgemental as this is MY FIRST TIME ON HERE WITH THESE WORDS COMING FROM MY MOUTH!!! so isnt it about time you got off here? looks like your still on here for a reason that your too nasty and poisoned tongued for any man to have you for any length of time.
sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be so judgmental about others.
this i will get to the bottom of now with my friends who gave me this STUPID SITE to humiliate me when they said i could get advice on here!!! so much for that looks like they had put stuff up for me a long time ago. now i get judged by an old nasty peice of work who is hell bent on making me look stupid. so well done bestbefore for making me look like an idiot for thinking this is my first ever post and telling the world that i am a liar and been on here before!! which i had no idea i ever had been.
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MISSEY8: Also to quote i cannot believe that that is a post done by me??? called Lindsey1651!!!! ye sthat i smy photo but that i didnt have a profile last year on here!!!!! my friends gave me this site 3wks ago and told me to try it as its not bad and free and have good forums!! so maybe if this is what i think it maybe looks like my friends did a false profile for me last year or year before whenever it maybe as they did set me up with a few phone numbers which i didnt call and was always trying to tell me that everyone thinks my situation is no good.
if this is true then i am so disgusted by the fact they set me up a profile but they have been very sneaky in hiding it as this is my only first time on here personally!
so i still say to bestbefore that my words to you are dont be so judgemental as this is MY FIRST TIME ON HERE WITH THESE WORDS COMING FROM MY MOUTH!!! so isnt it about time you got off here? looks like your still on here for a reason that your too nasty and poisoned tongued for any man to have you for any length of time.
sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be so judgmental about others.
this i will get to the bottom of now with my friends who gave me this STUPID SITE to humiliate me when they said i could get advice on here!!! so much for that looks like they had put stuff up for me a long time ago. now i get judged by an old nasty peice of work who is hell bent on making me look stupid. so well done bestbefore for making me look like an idiot for thinking this is my first ever post and telling the world that i am a liar and been on here before!! which i had no idea i ever had been.
if this is true then i am so disgusted by the fact they set me up a profile but they have been very sneaky in hiding it as this is my only first time on here personally!
so i still say to bestbefore that my words to you are dont be so judgemental as this is MY FIRST TIME ON HERE WITH THESE WORDS COMING FROM MY MOUTH!!! so isnt it about time you got off here? looks like your still on here for a reason that your too nasty and poisoned tongued for any man to have you for any length of time.
sorry to be so blunt but you seem to be so judgmental about others.
this i will get to the bottom of now with my friends who gave me this STUPID SITE to humiliate me when they said i could get advice on here!!! so much for that looks like they had put stuff up for me a long time ago. now i get judged by an old nasty peice of work who is hell bent on making me look stupid. so well done bestbefore for making me look like an idiot for thinking this is my first ever post and telling the world that i am a liar and been on here before!! which i had no idea i ever had been.
If it's not you then why are you making such a big deal out of it?
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Ccincy: If it's not you then why are you making such a big deal out of it?
It's what happens when you become jewish.
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ltlredcorvette: This happened to me with my last boyfriend. I changed my relion to suit him, left it in his hands to decide if our relationship is oing to continue...just about everything you say here sounds EXACTLY the way it was with my ex.
If he is cheating on you with 'real' Jewish girls, stop leaving it in his hands about your relationship and tell him to ship out. You don't deserve to be treated so badly. Everyone has time to communicate with their partner no matter where they are and what they're doing, if he's on facebook all the time when he's away how hard is it to write you an inbox? You need to take several long hard looks at what you've written in your post here over a few days, then come back and tell me, is it worth it? If this was your sister, best friend or daughter, would you advocate she stay in a relationship where she is treated so badly?
I feel your pain because I know exactly what you're going through and if I can make it stop after four years of his ignorance, disreagrd and contempt, so can you.
If he is cheating on you with 'real' Jewish girls, stop leaving it in his hands about your relationship and tell him to ship out. You don't deserve to be treated so badly. Everyone has time to communicate with their partner no matter where they are and what they're doing, if he's on facebook all the time when he's away how hard is it to write you an inbox? You need to take several long hard looks at what you've written in your post here over a few days, then come back and tell me, is it worth it? If this was your sister, best friend or daughter, would you advocate she stay in a relationship where she is treated so badly?
I feel your pain because I know exactly what you're going through and if I can make it stop after four years of his ignorance, disreagrd and contempt, so can you.
Why would anyone want to change for someone else, especially if you are not too sure about the future? Sounds like you both got quite the run around. Always be yourselves and if someone can not accept you for YOU, then they aren't worth it.
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At the risk of being tarred and feathered, I don't believe anymore that Missey8 is real. A young lady would not speak as you just have, your English is becoming less coherent, your explanations convulated, and A+B does not equal C as for details in your proifle. But this is just my humble opinion.
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BB_snickers: It's what happens when you become jewish.
Oh I see.Many many thanks oh enlightened one.
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MISSEY8: Wow I am sorry about that.
Its a horrid thought to be left in a religion that you convert to for love of another man. It seems to me that alot of men use their religion as a means to cheat and treat people badly.
my problem is i love him very much and find it hard to let him go when i know what people are telling me is right but to do it is very hard.
I waited all day today and he knew it was my day off work but i didnt get anything from him as usual.
I know i am throwing my life away here and it wont get any better and no he has not asked me to marry him either so there is no wedding on the cards at all.
Its a horrid thought to be left in a religion that you convert to for love of another man. It seems to me that alot of men use their religion as a means to cheat and treat people badly.
my problem is i love him very much and find it hard to let him go when i know what people are telling me is right but to do it is very hard.
I waited all day today and he knew it was my day off work but i didnt get anything from him as usual.
I know i am throwing my life away here and it wont get any better and no he has not asked me to marry him either so there is no wedding on the cards at all.
his religion really isn't the problem - men are men - jewish catholic hindu - w/e. As a man he is responsible for his behavior AND to stand up to his family
Family is great I LOVE mine - but in his particular case, my guess is that his family is actively working to find an ethnic jewish girl for him - we may not approve of that behavior (I know I don't) but he is the one to put a stop to it and since he isn't ..well, the writing is on the wall
I went to college in a heavily jewish community and even volunteered at the jewish community center. My jewish roommates told me - when this one jewish guy asked me out - that "he will go out with you to see what he can get but he will never marry you because you're not jewish"
that may have been jealousy talking - prolly - but still ...at the time I believed them. As I have lived with and admired many jewish friends for many years I can honestly say some are more prone to marriage outside of their religion than others - just like anyone else - so the issues are NOT family or religion - both are wonderful things- the issue is HIM and how he handles those things
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Ccincy: Oh I see.Many many thanks oh enlightened one.
Spread the joy, I always say.
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Holy crap..who pood in your cornflakes?? I can understand you wanting to clear up any misconception but with this amount of rage you're about to turn green and rip right through your clothes!! 
Perhaps you should use some of this energy to addressing the person really responsible for your rage..
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Ccincy: If it's not you then why are you making such a big deal out of it?
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