Welfare baby solution: Family Cap. (411)
jac379: How did your rent get paid?
Cash. The first one was the boyfriend who paid until she got her act together with him, got married and bought their own place and the second was cash to the property manager from the girl herself until she skipped a few months later.
We sold our other house and moved back so it all worked out good.
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I went to school with a fellow and I've known him ever since. Like me, this man is approaching fifty and he has probably worked a total of 5 years in the time I've known him. I don't see him anymore as I was disgusted the last time I visited him.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
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Blues63: I went to school with a fellow and I've known him ever since. Like me, this man is approaching fifty and he has probably worked a total of 5 years in the time I've known him. I don't see him anymore as I was disgusted the last time I visited him.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
See I don´recognise this scenario at all. This has never been a part of my life, I don´t know anybody who deals drugs nor do I know anybody who takes anything stronger than marijuana. Maybe that makes me less qualified to respond.
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Conorco: You are wrong, very very wrong.
Wrong that you're not as creepy as you come off or, that taking polls on what hand you touch your private parts with is normal where you come from?
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Albertaghost: Wrong that you're not as creepy as you come off or, that taking polls on what hand you touch your private parts with is normal where you come from?
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Blues63: I went to school with a fellow and I've known him ever since. Like me, this man is approaching fifty and he has probably worked a total of 5 years in the time I've known him. I don't see him anymore as I was disgusted the last time I visited him.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
Hi Blue,
I know what you're saying here. I don't know anyone personally who deals in drugs, but I am of this world, so I am aware they do exist, and the section of the population you wrote about.
Years ago, I worked with the Australian Federal govt, where a big part of my job was to identify barriers to employment, in the long list of long term unemployed folks we had. Long term was anything from 2yrs plus. I saw every conceivable type of person in that pool...
One day, I had to call in a person who turned out to be someone I'd known when we were undergrads, and he was studying dentistry at the time, and who actually did go on and become a dentist.
Anyway, I was the one who had to get him on the road back to employment. He had a wife whom I also knew, and 3-4 children. They were happy to collect child subsidy welfare, which was a tidy sum. He was perfectly capable of going to work, so was his wife for that matter. As we'd been pals, I was able to quell his threats to write to the minister, until after 'all this was over'. He complied and attended the RTW progs which paid for all the postage and phone call to employers...
A long story short, he landed himself a fantastic dentist position in a hospital desperate for a highly qualified and experienced dentistand I was also instrumental in approving the entire relocation costs, a pretty penny for the govt, as it crossed seas!!...His wife had got motivated in the bargain and landed herself a teaching position. They were suddenly earning a small fortune. To my knowledge, he never did write a letter of complain to the minister.
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Blues63: I went to school with a fellow and I've known him ever since. Like me, this man is approaching fifty and he has probably worked a total of 5 years in the time I've known him. I don't see him anymore as I was disgusted the last time I visited him.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
You don't have to know someone of the ilk you have mentioned above,but we all know that they are out there milking the system.
This thread started out as to why certain children were being denied basic welfare,but has, as with most threads ,digressed into the Welfare State in general.
There are certainly those in need of support in many country's across the world,and I have the greatest empathy for them.However there are also those that could help themselves,but prefer to sit back and expect the State to keep them.
In the UK pensioners get a raw deal even though they spent years working and paying into the system to pay for their retirement,but others come along, often from other countries and get everything paid for them.
Paying out £7000 a month in rent to a family with 7 children [ only 3 when they first arrived from Somalia] is in my opinion an insult to others who struggle on a daily basis to keep their heads above water.
This is but one case of many. Rant over.
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Anyone know any tax avoiders or evaders?
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Albertaghost: Same in Canada.
In Ireland, if a man really loves a woman he will lick her armpit first thing in the morning,, is it the same in Canada?
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Conorco: In Ireland, if a man really loves a woman he will lick her armpit first thing in the morning,, is it the same in Canada?
Well.....Now no!Not our armpit.
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maryrachelle: Well.....Now no!Not our armpit.
What then
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Conorco: What then
Not telling!
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Conorco: In Ireland, if a man really loves a woman he will lick her armpit first thing in the morning,, is it the same in Canada?
Is that a fact?
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Glatlol: Is that a fact?
Duhhh everybody does it don't they
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Conorco: Duhhh everybody does it don't they
Of course they do
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Albertaghost: Cash. The first one was the boyfriend who paid until she got her act together with him, got married and bought their own place and the second was cash to the property manager from the girl herself until she skipped a few months later.
We sold our other house and moved back so it all worked out good.
We sold our other house and moved back so it all worked out good.
Where did the cash come from with respect to the tenants you had who were in receipt of welfare?
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Glatlol: Of course they do
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trueheart1941: hi.....interesting...??...and how does a woman respond...back.....??
Swift knee to the groin in my case lol
Its our idea of foreplay you know
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Blues63: I went to school with a fellow and I've known him ever since. Like me, this man is approaching fifty and he has probably worked a total of 5 years in the time I've known him. I don't see him anymore as I was disgusted the last time I visited him.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
I dropped in to say hello and catch up with him. While I was there a friend of his showed up to score some pot. She was pregnant and had six children with her. I didn't know my friend was dealing drugs, but I sat there listening to their conversation.
She was telling my friend how she was having the seventh child to be eligible for a people mover supplied by the government. From what I could tell, there were five fathers to these children and I enquired to their whereabouts thinking they may have abandoned her. On the contrary, she was friends with most of them, but she wouldn't have any of them move in with her as she would lose her benefits.
My friend began to complain that the Social Security dept. were placing him in programmes where he would obtain a driver's licence and a fork lift ticket. He didn't want either as these would increase his chances of getting a job and he didn't want to jeopardise his benefits.
I grew more and more disgusted with these two, so I made my excuses and left. I ran into a mutual friend recently and enquired about this fellow. My friend replied that he just sat around his flat building model kits and selling pot all day.
I know this story is not indicative of everyone on welfare and it's purely anecdotal. However, these are not the only people I've encountered with similar attitudes. I offered another friend of mine a job some years ago, as he was long term unemployed and had two children to support. I worked as a Head Storeman for a company and needed staff to help through a busy period. When I related the remuneration for this job to him, he refused on the grounds that he received a similar amount on welfare, and by the time he accounted for travel expenses he would actually be behind.
Now I recognise the need for welfare and I've been on unemployment benefit myself after the '87 crash. However, I soon got another job. I now have three jobs and pay 33% tax on my income. It sometimes galls me to know that there are people out there with the attitudes I related above.
I don't know what the welfare scheme is like in Aussieland, but in the UK, Income Support, the lowest rate of benefit is grim.
I can understand why a man would not want to take a job that might make life even grimmer for his children, even if it was temporary.
That's why the Tax Credit scheme works in the UK. It tops up the worst wages to a livable amount.
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