Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come? (408)

Jul 24, 2011 7:20 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: Like I said before it depends from what angle you wish to view it. Do you think just because it is in the bible there has to be a true story line? Funny how people don’t see it for what it is, yet every day of the week is named after some esoteric god and even four or five moths of the year. Tell me why is it that Jesus shares almost the same esoteric traits as some of these gods if you are right?


The Hellenised version of Jesus is very much like these Pagan gods. The historical Yeshua was a human being unlike these.
Jul 24, 2011 7:44 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
Buddha, of India, born on December 25, his mother's name was Maya (similar to Mary) she was a virgin. He was immaculately conceived, and at birth, he announced that he was a savior to the world. His birth was announced by a star. At his birth, he was visited by Wise Men who declared that they had seen Signs of his birth, that is to say, signs of the royal birth (coincidence?).

Which Buddha you on about Agent Ajax? What you have written is a complete nonsense AA, the Buddha's birth was not immaculately conceived, his mothers name was not Maya he never announced he was anything, what you've written is complete nonsense mate.

One way is to see the historical Buddha who lived 2,500 years ago as a human being who cleansed his mind of all defilements and developed all his potential. Any being who does likewise is also considered a Buddha, for there are many Buddhas, not just one.

Shakyamuni Buddha (563-483 BC)
Fourth of the one thousand founding buddhas of this present world age. Born a prince of the Shakya clan in North India, he taught the sutra and tantra paths to liberation and enlightenment; founder of what came to be known as Buddhism.

Jul 25, 2011 1:52 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
robplum: Buddha, of India, born on December 25, his mother's name was Maya (similar to Mary) she was a virgin. He was immaculately conceived, and at birth, he announced that he was a savior to the world. His birth was announced by a star. At his birth, he was visited by Wise Men who declared that they had seen Signs of his birth, that is to say, signs of the royal birth (coincidence?).

Which Buddha you on about Agent Ajax? What you have written is a complete nonsense AA, the Buddha's birth was not immaculately conceived, his mothers name was not Maya he never announced he was anything, what you've written is complete nonsense mate.

One way is to see the historical Buddha who lived 2,500 years ago as a human being who cleansed his mind of all defilements and developed all his potential. Any being who does likewise is also considered a Buddha, for there are many Buddhas, not just one.

Shakyamuni Buddha (563-483 BC)
Fourth of the one thousand founding buddhas of this present world age. Born a prince of the Shakya clan in North India, he taught the sutra and tantra paths to liberation and enlightenment; founder of what came to be known as Buddhism.



Queen Maya and King Suddhodhana did not have children for twenty years into their marriage. According to legend, One full moon night, sleeping in the palace, the queen had a vivid dream. She felt herself being carried away by four devas (spirits) to Lake Anotatta in the Himalayas. After bathing her in the lake, the devas clothed her in heavenly cloths, anointed her with perfumes, and bedecked her with divine flowers. Soon after a white elephant, holding a white lotus flower in its trunk, appeared and went round her three times, entering her womb through her right side. Finally the elephant disappeared and the queen awoke, knowing she had been delivered an important message, as the elephant is a symbol of greatness in Nepal[
Jul 25, 2011 2:33 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
revealer24: The Hellenised version of Jesus is very much like these Pagan gods. The historical Yeshua was a human being unlike these.
That is if you go with the idea that he actually existed.

When Moses got of that big rock and found his people make a gold calf he got really pissed. The fact is there was no golden calf, that’s been twisted, there was a golden Bull….. “Taurus”!!! Moses slays all the people who worshiped Taurus resembling the end of the age. Moses is of the new age “Pieces” This is why even today pope and the bishops still wear the Mitre of a fish head. This is why Christians display slogans on back of their cars Jesus was the fisher of men. Jesus the Fisherman. Jesus and Moses resemble the new Pieces age and the Passover that was witnessed was the end of that age. This is why he says you will find me where the man holds a pitch of water.
Jul 25, 2011 2:33 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
Prince Siddharta Gautama was born some 2,500 years ago as a prince in what is now called Lumbini in Nepal. At his birth, many special signs appeared. His father asked a sage living in his kingdom for advice on his son. The sage predicted that Gautama would become either a great King or a great spiritual teacher.

The King wanted his son to be his successor and tried to keep him far away from all matters of life that could incline him to a spiritual life. Gautama usually spent his life in his father's palace, surrounded by all the possible luxuries of the time. He proved to be a special child, being quite intelligent as well as an excellent sportsman. He married to a beautiful woman he loved, and they had a son.

When Gautama was 29 years old, he discovered there was much suffering in the world around him. Traditionally it is explained that he suddenly recognised the problems of sickness, old age and death when visiting the city. Being shocked by the suffering of all living beings, he decided to search for way to end it. He left his wife and child, the palace and even his royal clothes, and started out on a spiritual quest.

I dunno where you got those thoughts, but if you looked you would have seen that link offered qualified information, or do you think HHDL should bow down to your source?

Nothing of the kind, what you suggest is inconsistent with Buddhist teachings.

another quote from the site:
A Buddha is not the creator of the universe, like "God" in the Christian-Judeo-Islamic sense. In fact, there is no creator of the universe given in Buddhist philosophy apart from the karma (actions) of sentient beings (beings with a mind like huans and animals).

Why don't you check up AA?
Jul 25, 2011 2:44 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
from the Buddhist net probably the same place as you.

Jul 25, 2011 3:00 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
No i don't go there for information, i run with Dalai Lama Mahayana Buddhisim not something else



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Try checking the Foundation for the Preservation of the Mahayana Tradition for information, you'll find that offerers qualified information you can trust AA
Jul 25, 2011 3:45 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: That is if you go with the idea that he actually existed.

When Moses got of that big rock and found his people make a gold calf he got really pissed. The fact is there was no golden calf, that’s been twisted, there was a golden Bull….. “Taurus”!!! Moses slays all the people who worshiped Taurus resembling the end of the age. Moses is of the new age “Pieces” This is why even today pope and the bishops still wear the Mitre of a fish head. This is why Christians display slogans on back of their cars Jesus was the fisher of men. Jesus the Fisherman. Jesus and Moses resemble the new Pieces age and the Passover that was witnessed was the end of that age. This is why he says you will find me where the man holds a pitch of water.


I don't have an agenda to disprove his existence. I know some sceptics work hard to disprove him, but I my studies are convincing enough to me. You are welcome to believe in his non-existence, but I don't share your conviction.

Have you checked Geza Vermes' books? He is a world renown scholar. He think he existed.
Jul 25, 2011 4:02 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts


I had a quick look Rob, Obviously Im not on the academic depth as you. I understand the Buddhist principals and teachings.

Ps the 2nd site didn’t work for me.
Jul 25, 2011 4:09 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
revealer24: I don't have an agenda to disprove his existence. I know some sceptics work hard to disprove him, but I my studies are convincing enough to me. You are welcome to believe in his non-existence, but I don't share your conviction.

Have you checked Geza Vermes' books? He is a world renown scholar. He think he existed.


No I haven’t but now that I have a name I certainly will look into it.

Here is something else to think about… the word Amen and Im sure you can dispute it with today’s meaning actually was a cry out to Amen RA… Amun Ra… Re … Ri this is why the word appears much later in the bible.
Jul 25, 2011 4:50 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: No I haven’t but now that I have a name I certainly will look into it.

Here is something else to think about… the word Amen and Im sure you can dispute it with today’s meaning actually was a cry out to Amen RA… Amun Ra… Re … Ri this is why the word appears much later in the bible.


The last time I checked it appeared right in one of the books of Moses:

Numbers 5:22
and this water that brings a curse shall go into your stomach, and make your abdomen swell and your thigh waste away.” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”

Amen = "So is it," or "So shall it be" in Hebrew
Jul 25, 2011 5:05 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
revealer24: The last time I checked it appeared right in one of the books of Moses:

Numbers 5:22
and this water that brings a curse shall go into your stomach, and make your abdomen swell and your thigh waste away.” And the woman shall say, “Amen. Amen.”

Amen = "So is it," or "So shall it be" in Hebrew


that’s the passage!!! The passage is about women who stray and they will call out the for their god Amen. The word was never used prior accept in a prayer to Amen Ra.

Funny how when god was finished with his creation he never said Amen.
Jul 25, 2011 5:18 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
aussielegend41
aussielegend41aussielegend41back of beyond., New South Wales Australia10 Threads 576 Posts
No offence..but this site is all about 3 boys trying to out do each other.in the age of google so easy just to grab the info throw it in and look like a genius.dancing
Jul 25, 2011 6:30 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: that’s the passage!!! The passage is about women who stray and they will call out the for their god Amen. The word was never used prior accept in a prayer to Amen Ra.


The women simply agreed to what was said before. They didn't call out to any other gods. You need to read it in context. Who invents these weird ideas?

AgentAjax: Funny how when god was finished with his creation he never said Amen.


Why would God need to agree with His own creative work?
Jul 25, 2011 6:34 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
tonyxf
tonyxftonyxfwerribee, Victoria Australia2 Threads 4,525 Posts
revealer24: Who invents these weird ideas?
You 2 seem to be inventing and revealing an awful lot.
Jul 25, 2011 6:40 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
tonyxf: You 2 seem to be inventing and revealing an awful lot.


Yes, hello, n I am cracking up laughing here... rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 25, 2011 6:59 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
tonyxf: You 2 seem to be inventing and revealing an awful lot.
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 25, 2011 8:12 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
revealer24: The women simply agreed to what was said before. They didn't call out to any other gods. You need to read it in context. Who invents these weird ideas?
Why would God need to agree with His own creative work?


What weird concepts? Your working with a closed system while the characters in the bible are astrological. The world has always operated in that way from the day humans looked up in the sky. As I point out beliefs moving through the ages of zodiacs.
The Hebrew of the Old Testament reveals to us that the Scriptural Hebrew word (which means: so be it, or verily, or surely) is "Amein" and not "Amen." Likewise, the Greek equivalent in the Greek New Testament is pronounced: "Amein." The Egyptians, including the Alexandrians, had been worshiping, or been acquainted with, the head of the Egyptian pantheon, Amen-Ra, the great sun-deity, for more than one thousand years B.C. Before he was known as Amen-Ra, he was known as Amen among the Thebans. According to Funk and Wagnall's Standard College Dictionary, AMEN was the god of life and procreation in Egyptian mythology, and later identified with the Sun-god as the supreme deity and called "Amen-Ra." Smith's Bible Dictionary and Egyptian Belief and Modern Thought agree. Our Saviour Y'shua calls Himself "the Amein" in Revelation 3:14. One might ask: Have we been misled to invoke the name of the Egyptian sun-deity at the end of our prayers?
Jul 25, 2011 9:14 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
aussielegend41: No offence..but this site is all about 3 boys trying to out do each other.in the age of google so easy just to grab the info throw it in and look like a genius.


Well just looked at a few of the posts and the Rev and AA have been polite and friendly all the way through its like they are really enjoying the discussion and I do not think they are trying to outdo each other as really they have nothing to prove.

Not once... have either of them tried to put each other down,they have confidence in their own abilities and each of them respects that.

HOWEVER.....no keep your mouth shut.

hmmm hmmm giggle
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