Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come? (408)

Jul 21, 2011 5:44 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
Einstein: For ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Therefore, if there is an Anti-Christ, there must be a Christ.

Belief of Agnostics: I know there ain't no Heaven but I pray there ain't no Hell.

And now to politics. Do we want to be governed by a Rangyer or a Budgie Smuggler?
Jul 21, 2011 6:01 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
wash2u: Einstein: For ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Therefore, if there is an Anti-Christ, there must be a Christ.

Belief of Agnostics: I know there ain't no Heaven but I pray there ain't no Hell.

And now to politics. Do we want to be governed by a Rangyer or a Budgie Smuggler?
that’s the third law and its no by Einstein laugh
Jul 21, 2011 6:04 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
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Jul 21, 2011 6:19 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
In response to: What do you think? Who is he? Maybe he already came... a long time ago and still with us today...


Hey Rev it seems you are really wrapped up in in anything Religious dunno why not become a priest???
or join a Christen forum as you seem most happy when you are talking about it.comfort

When you are relaxed and mixing in you are a really pleasant personality,there are so many other subjects to discuss apart from that.

This is only me.... but I am an agnostic and think most of the god squad are hypocrites.But a lot of people get comfort out of it so of course each to his own.
Jul 21, 2011 6:25 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Martia: Hey Rev it seems you are really wrapped up in in anything Religious why not become a priest???
or join a Christen forum as you seem most happy when you are talking about it.

When you are relaxed and mixing in you are a really pleasant personality,there are so many other subjects to discuss apart from that.

This is only me.... but I am an agnostic and think most of the god squad are hypocrites.But a lot of people get comfort out of it so of course each to his own.
Welcome brother Rev,
u r most welcome in the church of Lookin hug thumbs up
Jul 21, 2011 7:08 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
underwaterman
underwatermanunderwatermanaldershot, Queensland Australia28 Threads 771 Posts
wash2u: Einstein: For ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Therefore, if there is an Anti-Christ, there must be a Christ.

Belief of Agnostics: I know there ain't no Heaven but I pray there ain't no Hell.

And now to politics. Do we want to be governed by a Rangyer or a Budgie Smuggler?


Not sure about the validity of your opening claim "Therefore, if there is an Anti-Christ, there must be a Christ."
This claim suggests that both a christ and an antichrist, if they do indeed exist are either action or reaction.
I understood that the claim for both was that they were/are deities, beings, or a combination of forms. There is nothing to suggest that they are indeed non entities and merely formless action and reaction.
If this is the case, then your whole argument is invalid.
Jul 21, 2011 7:08 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Lookin4missright: Welcome brother Rev,
u r most welcome in the church of Lookin
Im not staying Im just looking hmmm what am I looking at? confused
Jul 21, 2011 7:21 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
underwaterman
underwatermanunderwatermanaldershot, Queensland Australia28 Threads 771 Posts
it has also been suggested that the "god son" story predates the times of the bible and that civilization and appears in many prechristian and some post christian religions. It is suggested that the story is related to the signs of the zodiac.
Jul 21, 2011 7:26 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
underwaterman: it has also been suggested that the "god son" story predates the times of the bible and that civilization and appears in many prechristian and some post christian religions. It is suggested that the story is related to the signs of the zodiac.
From the research I have done, which can be done by anybody these days would make you correct. thumbs up
Jul 21, 2011 7:27 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
underwaterman
underwatermanunderwatermanaldershot, Queensland Australia28 Threads 771 Posts
some interesting stuff out there when you start to look. all sorts of views on things.
Jul 21, 2011 8:01 AM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
underwaterman: it has also been suggested that the "god son" story predates the times of the bible and that civilization and appears in many prechristian and some post christian religions. It is suggested that the story is related to the signs of the zodiac.


The problem is that for every theory there is an anti-theory.

The Christian religion is very adaptive and the Augustines were very good at realising that adaption is a better way of guiding to an outcome than prohibition. Then again, the Ausgutines and the Fransistines have been putting their views forward for a couple a fews years. But who is right?

Can we get back to politics? There are simpler answers than religion.
Jul 21, 2011 4:54 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
Shell225: well I googled satanic forums, and there's an absolute plethora of them. So out of curiosity I popped into one.... and I quote.....In the wake of recent events, it has become incumbent upon the management to institute a new rule. Posts made with the deliberate goal of flaming this site or its members, to incite internecine rivalry or create a conflict between Internet sites where none existed, will simply be deleted.that doesnt sound very evil or naughty....


How do you identify the "deliberate goal" of posts?

If I post an exposition of a passage, would that qualify for deletion even though I don't have such intent?
Jul 21, 2011 5:00 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
jimbob47: All I know is at the time of Christ and he was performing miracles (if you believe that thats your choice).At the time Christ was doing his thing there were other Messiahs miracle workers whoever.All over Roman conquered countries.Or so Fox discovery or History channel tells us .
All bow our heads to FOX

Of course if there were more than 1 christ like messiah .Could there be more than 1 Antichrist ?

who knows who cares


There were many messiahs, for the term simply means "anointed". All Jewish kings and high priests were anointed, therefore, were messiahs. These messiahs were anointed for the very reason because they were appointed for their office.

There is one anointed that was foretold...

I will post my exposition on the international forum because I get banned if I do it here innocent
Jul 21, 2011 5:04 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
robplum: oh it doesn't really matter, others believe whatever they want to, i think most Aussie's keep a pretty open mind, only a few are actually sucked in by the chocolate, xmas story line, sweet sounding voices with limp-wrists, music and other mindless activities that can easily picked while they are harshly judging the karmas of others.
Like and Dislike is another of the afflictions a few suffer greatly from.


Since there are hundreds of millions, if not a few billion, in the world who are affected, it does really matter. Even those true blue Aussies that have pretty open minds often have relatives or friends who are "sucked in" by more than just chocolate. xmas story and alike. So if you know the correct answer, you have the chance to help them.

But most open minded Aussies don't care...
Jul 21, 2011 5:07 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
AgentAjax: Today by an ex Mason it was explained to me why you have to be a Christian to join Masonic belief. They believe there was no Christ as in saviour but an anti Christ came by the name of Jesus. It was a very interesting conversation.


A belief like this cannot make sense as you cannot have an anti-christ without first having a christ, for the anti-christ is the one who opposes in teaching and deeds the real christ.
Jul 21, 2011 5:07 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
dragondog4: Hes one of us mate.


One of you? confused
Jul 21, 2011 5:14 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
Martia: Hey Rev it seems you are really wrapped up in in anything Religious why not become a priest???
or join a Christen forum as you seem most happy when you are talking about it.

When you are relaxed and mixing in you are a really pleasant personality,there are so many other subjects to discuss apart from that.

This is only me.... but I am an agnostic and think most of the god squad are hypocrites.But a lot of people get comfort out of it so of course each to his own.


Do you think everyone should become a priest who are "wrapped up" in anything religious?

Indeed, there are so many other subjects to discuss in the non-religious threads, but since this is is a religious thread it is appropriate to discuss religious issues here.

What I don't understand is why non-religious or agnostic people think that it is inappropriate to discuss religion in a religious thread, and why it is that one cannot be "relaxed" and have a "pleasant personality" if he discusses such issues.
Jul 21, 2011 5:15 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
Lookin4missright: Welcome brother Rev,
u r most welcome in the church of Lookin


Hey, I can't attend your services. Too far away laugh
Jul 21, 2011 5:19 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
underwaterman: Not sure about the validity of your opening claim "Therefore, if there is an Anti-Christ, there must be a Christ."
This claim suggests that both a christ and an antichrist, if they do indeed exist are either action or reaction.
I understood that the claim for both was that they were/are deities, beings, or a combination of forms. There is nothing to suggest that they are indeed non entities and merely formless action and reaction.
If this is the case, then your whole argument is invalid.


It is not action-reaction, but rather form and distorted form. The distorted image opposes (hence the term "anti") the original because it pretends the false image was the real one.
Jul 21, 2011 5:27 PM CST Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?
revealer24
revealer24revealer24Arundel, Queensland Australia62 Threads 985 Posts
underwaterman: it has also been suggested that the "god son" story predates the times of the bible and that civilization and appears in many prechristian and some post christian religions. It is suggested that the story is related to the signs of the zodiac.


While there might be many "god son" stories in Pagan religions, and the Roman world was certainly full of virgin-born god-men saviours, in the ancient Jewish religious tradition the term "son of God" was applied to righteous beings, who reflected the righteousness of God, either angels or humans, such as Israel, Solomon and finally Jesus.

The term doesn't mean descent.
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