Freedom of Speech? ( Archived) (158)

Dec 1, 2013 9:27 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: And the other difference is where its allegiance lies. Traditional biases have usually been the majority bullying the minority whereas political correctness is a coalition of minority identities being used to subjugate the majority... Politically correct people are usually freaks, nerds and gimps who carry a lifelong fear of the world, they despise and fear what's cool and popular and at bottom this is what motivates their desire to silence the common man and the realtalkerati.




Minority Rules: Scientists Discover Tipping Point for the Spread of Ideas

Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have found that when just 10 percent of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society. The scientists, who are members of the Social Cognitive Networks Academic Research Center (SCNARC) at Rensselaer, used computational and analytical methods to discover the tipping point where a minority belief becomes the majority opinion. The finding has implications for the study and influence of societal interactions ranging from the spread of innovations to the movement of political ideals.

And here's the scientific evidence to show that a coalition of semi-autistic geeks could easily possess the rest of society.
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Dec 1, 2013 9:28 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
JeanKimberley: it was very informative - although was it racial profiling or a general belief that rappers by their very nature involve themselves in criminal activities of drug misuse and violence.

It is ironic that the very way these musicians, who which to make money in this particular music style, which has an underlying theme of edginess get caught up in the impression that if they are rappers then all rappers are dope smoking, criminals... because usually what rappers sing about, the content of their songs...

Funny, they play and they pay.




For some reason regardless of race rappers have been stereotyped for some time that somehow they are nothing but gang members.I can't stand the music but to each their own.
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Dec 1, 2013 9:34 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
rebel2: Awwwww shucks
Hey, if you've got it , flaunt itgrin cheering
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Dec 1, 2013 9:37 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
serena123: Same thing apparently


laugh couple of crossed lines here, methinks
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Dec 1, 2013 9:38 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Obstinance_Works: Minority Rules: Scientists Discover Tipping Point for the Spread of Ideas
The scientists, who are members of the Social Cognitive Networks Academic Research Center (SCNARC) at Rensselaer.


very happy so that is what it means to get snarky
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Dec 1, 2013 9:38 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
I'm sorry if it seems like I hijacked your thread, I was just trying to make an example of how the two are so closely knitted together, sorry


sad flower
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Dec 1, 2013 9:39 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
hoolet: And that´s not a bad way to live..........might avoid a lotta conflict if people did. Unfortunately, you get such a lot of self-important people who think they run the show, it´s quite nice to pull them down a peg or two, but then you move on to another question......when to stop! So it´s maybe best if you do "think" before you speak. Not a bad maxim to live by.
Kills me to say this, but you make a lot of sense
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Dec 1, 2013 9:40 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
SoonerGal: I'm sorry if it seems like I hijacked your thread, I was just trying to make an example of how the two are so closely knitted together, sorry


They are SG, I wasn't having a stab at you at all. hug
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Dec 1, 2013 9:41 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
SoonerGal: I'm sorry if it seems like I hijacked your thread, I was just trying to make an example of how the two are so closely knitted together, sorry
Hey! Thanks for making the thread interesting teddybear
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Dec 1, 2013 9:41 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
galrads: If you can afford it, you too can have freedom of speech.


Free speech...

One each!!!

yay
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Dec 1, 2013 9:44 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
serena123
serena123serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa44 Threads 2 Polls 2,821 Posts
LadyDiz: Totally agree! I'm sure he knows the effect he's having on us with that little tartan number of his.
wave true words
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Dec 1, 2013 9:45 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
LadyDiz
LadyDizLadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 Posts
serena123: true words


wave laugh laugh
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Dec 1, 2013 9:47 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
pointing I was often called 'Muzungu' (white person) whilst in Uganda. I was so honoured I bought the t shirt.

laugh

tomcatwarne: Yes calling someone black in the UK is acceptable, but in other cultures not, the actual term is not universal, the control it gives the perpetrators is.
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Dec 1, 2013 9:50 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
serena123: You can say what you like on my thread




I think what he was getting at is that CS is the site owners property.

That we're their guests no different then if we were in someone's home.
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Dec 1, 2013 9:53 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
serena123: You can say what you like on my thread


Thanks, ...I know, I was born free. and I still have the "freedom of speech”
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Dec 1, 2013 9:56 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
galrads: This would probably be true, ............. if CS was monitored and rules were enforced.




We're adults right? Shouldn't we be able to monitor our own behavior?
Just saying.
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Dec 1, 2013 9:56 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
galrads: This would probably be true, ............. if CS was monitored and rules were enforced.


It has nothing with CS "monitoring and rules were enforced". But only with a principle of "freedom". as in your house/property, sometimes we let people go away with some comments we dont accept/agree.

cheers handshake wave
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Dec 1, 2013 9:59 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
serena123: No such thing... most Countries brag that their Citizens have the freedom to say what they like... Total B.S, you can say anything, only if its "politically correct" or doesn't p.ss anyone off! Much like C.S.say something wrong here, and you either kicked off the site, banned or blocked.. So what does "Freedom of speech" actually mean?

It means you have the freedom to say whatever you want, but not out loud laugh
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Dec 1, 2013 9:59 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Ccincy: We're adults right? Shouldn't we be able to monitor our own behavior?
Just saying.


why should adults be able to monitor their own behavior? Seems to me this is what starts most wars. laugh
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Dec 1, 2013 10:01 AM CST Freedom of Speech?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
SoonerGal: You know I love you lol....but I grew up around AA...one of my best friends was AA...see how you turn things around on what I say? I was giving an example of how things are on a daily basis here. The news article doesn't have the threads that was on their FB page, but later if I have time I'll pull that up and post a link. But here's the news article on it...


Ignoring that you've just said one of your best friends was African American (did you really just say that? giggle ), thank you for the link. It seems there is more to this than your original description.

Why were these people stopped by police officers with a drug interdiction task force for a faulty tail light?

Why was the drug interdiction task force present? That's about drug trafficking, not a traffic offence, surely?

From the report, it does not state what evidence of drug use the officers found, it does not state that the 11 people arrested have been charged with possession, dealing, or trafficking of illegal substances.

It does say all 11 were arrested on misdemeanor complaints of obstruction and that a search warrant was not obtained until some 9 hours after the initial traffic offence stop. What right do police have to search people's property without a warrant and on what grounds?

The police have said some narcotics were found, but they've been unable to determine who they belong to; Tauheed Epps claims that nothing was 'found'.

Tauheed also claims that being stopped and searched on spurious grounds is a regular occurrence.

The obstruction misdemeanour with which the 11 men have been charged reminds me of Rosa Park's arrest. Although I understand that narcotics might have been present, I also understand that racial profiling might have been an issue given the presence of the drug interdiction task force on a routine traffic offence stop.

Surely, there needs to be an investigation as to what really happened here?
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