Should women get equal pay. ( Archived) (66)

Jul 15, 2015 7:59 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,960 Posts
truheart1941: oh ,Emmmmmmmmm.NEXT.PLEASE..........




Big long green thing thumbs up lol
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Jul 15, 2015 8:41 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
So that's what y'all get up to when I'm not here:: redclown
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Jul 15, 2015 8:46 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,960 Posts
tomcatwarne: So that's what y'all get up to when I'm not here::



Yeah.. cough.. so we totally agree that women should get equal pay handshake
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Jul 15, 2015 9:01 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
sunsmile007
sunsmile007sunsmile007Trier, Rhineland-Palatinate Germany1 Threads 1 Polls 26 Posts
Hi Tom, thanks for your post. There was a hot discussion about this also in one of the class that I was involved. Here are my personal opinions about this:

- women do seems to mastering number of job's field that looks like not hard and men do the job that seems hard. Maybe it's because biological thing that most of the women can not lift heavy weight or something. But, unfortunately, men do also dominant in a lot of area that do not need to show your strength or something, such as accountant or marketing. And why when a woman become a CEO or president or somewhat in a high leadership position this will be a news? Because this is rare. Even in industrial countries, where gender equality is considered good, this situation is still news. A lot of news showed a low of percentage of woman in this position.

- There are some studies that showed how girls in average better at school. But yet when they come into labour market, most of the top positions and also most number of workers are man. The data about the girls for me showed how woman are more diligent than boys and that's not necessarily showed how woman more intelligent than man (school is not only about intelligent). And this also show me how woman and man can have the same opportunity and also capability either at school or at work.

- When woman show themselves in a tough way, people can jugde them as mean, aggressive, ambitious, rude, scary, have no heart, etc. People can ask you, what do you want? What are you trying to prove? If that happens to a man, people will show some respect, assertive, value them better, that this person had strong minded and strong will, etc. This judgement even harder if you are married woman and still working. I think that many people had been fighting for gender equality and woman nowadays can have the same opportunities to get education, involvement in sport, have the right to vote, enter the public market labour, etc. But yet some people still believe this stereotype.

- People at work don't usually reveal their salary. But from my experience, man is the one who usually dare enough if things come to salary bargaining, office promotion, self promotion, etc. I think this is the one that woman quite hard to do. Some part because of the stereotypes, some part because woman usually undemonstrative about their capabilities and not eager enough to pursue more.

- Some research showed that a better education for woman will improve better quality in the family. Research about woman in top position (CEO or same position) showed that the company get more profit if the top position occupied by woman. Other research showed how woman in the government can decrease number of corruption. I try to mean that gender equality is not a threatened but it is an advantage for the society.

This not mean that man should do all of the traditional "things" than woman do and vice versa. I just think that equality is good and people can discuss about this. Also, thanks for posting this issue! wine
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Jul 15, 2015 9:36 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
tomcatwarne: Over 40 years after the Equal Pay Act came into force in the UK women still face a stark gap in their earnings compared to men’s and experience one of the highest pay gaps in the EU.

In 2012, comparing all work, women earned 18.6% less per hour than men. Comparing those in full-time work, women earned an average of 14.9% less per hour than men – this means that for every £1 a man takes home, a woman takes home 85p.

The pay gap varies across sectors and regions, rising to up to 33% in the City of London and 55% in the finance sector.
Much depends on the region and specific job/career. Here in Oregon, Registered Nurses now earn an overall average of $41.00 per hour. (The range is from about $30.00 to $75.00, with some advanced degree nurses topping the $200,000.00 a year scale. I would say for a career that is predominantly female, that is more than fair. Many men work far harder than nurses, for sometimes not much more than minimum wage. It's not always as this trend of "women make less money" appears. On the flip side, however, Corporate Business is another story, with women managers making less, (usually, not always) than men. Did you know that female hairdressers, a fair enough paying job, make more than Barbers and male hairdressers? Waitresses and female bartenders tend to make more than waiters and male bartenders. Restaurant management, nursing home management (not medical management) the women administrators and CEO's tend to make more. It is not cut and dry anymore. Many models and actresses make far more than their male counterparts.
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Jul 15, 2015 9:45 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Sunsmile and Rohaan excelent answers to a complex social issue. Thankyou for your input.wine
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Jul 15, 2015 11:14 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
.....NO,,,they should,nt.....all they would spend it on..is perfume/shoes/dresses....then out all night,playing bingo.....in fact...they should have a paycut....snooty snooty hole hole hole hole hole hole giggle giggle giggle innocent
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Jul 15, 2015 11:37 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
truheart1941: .....NO,,,they should,nt.....all they would spend it on..is perfume/shoes/dresses....then out all night,playing bingo.....in fact...they should have a paycut....


If only I had the ban button for this threadgiggle


laugh
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Jul 15, 2015 11:39 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
uptall: If only I had the ban button for this thread


I've got it ... how much is it worth::grin: grin grin
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Jul 15, 2015 11:47 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
tomcatwarne: I've got it ... how much is it worth::grin:



I really couldn't do it to him, but I'd be pmsl making him sweatlaugh
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Jul 15, 2015 11:57 AM CST Should women get equal pay.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
uptall: I really couldn't do it to him, but I'd be pmsl making him sweat


You couldn't afford the 5 grand anywaygrin
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Jul 15, 2015 12:00 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
tomcatwarne: You couldn't afford the 5 grand anyway



You haven't seen my bank accounts or you wouldn't be saying that. I had a very good Internet business wink
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Jul 15, 2015 12:21 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Maybe the question that should be asked is, do men want pay equality?
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Jul 15, 2015 12:30 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
mollybaby: Maybe the question that should be asked is, do men want pay equality?


Yeah if we get the same pay as Angola Merkellaugh


wave
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Jul 15, 2015 12:33 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
uptall: Yeah if we get the same pay as Angola Merkel



I've no doubt our taoiseach gets paid even more than her roll eyes

They love to overpay themselves herevery mad
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Jul 15, 2015 12:42 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
mollybaby: I've no doubt our taoiseach gets paid even more than her

They love to overpay themselves here



Yeah and they love to spend our money, only not so much on us!!

They've just done away with the paper tax disc but my road tax has just gone up, how's that workfrustrated
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Jul 15, 2015 12:49 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
uptall: You haven't seen my bank accounts or you wouldn't be saying that. I had a very good Internet business


OK it's 10 grand thengrin grin
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Jul 15, 2015 1:14 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
uptall
uptalluptallQuiet village..., Durham, England UK57 Threads 1 Polls 12,860 Posts
tomcatwarne: I can see you like the old feller so I guess the deal is off


Yeah he's like part of the family, just one down from the dancing dog pointing

laugh cheers
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Jul 15, 2015 2:12 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
.......hi.....wave is this the bum licking thred.....giggle giggle giggle
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Jul 15, 2015 2:16 PM CST Should women get equal pay.
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
wie viele menschen?beer
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