TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
tomcatwarne: French supermarkets will be banned from throwing away or destroying unsold food and must instead donate it to charities or allow it to be turned into animal food or compost.
Should all countries do this?
Hate it. What we should do is ban food donation altogether to encourage poor people to become immortal.
Alternatively, you could ask anybody in the medical profession. Or law enforcement. Or anybody who drives taxis. Or anybody who's been here. sorry there's no Harvard referencing or footnote etc.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
pat8lanips: I cant think of any publications that would be brave enough to name the problem... Maybe try lonely planet, but they'll be more focussed on where backpackers can get a free feed or get laid. Maybe have a look at Cairns.com.au every so often and work out the the problem for yourself...
So in short, you have no references, it all comes out of your head.
The big shame is to have homeless people but provide foreigners with houses and all the freebies... I have seen many losing everything overnight when the recession started, they are not uneducated or lazy but no one helps them (which will be easier than illiterate "no job's good for me bums") As for the food, they should have started it a long time ago. We have food banks (coolers) on some streets and restaurants can leave unsold food for those in need...and they do... The disturbing fact here is that the people who want to save money use food banks more than those who have nothing at all...
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
KremaP: The big shame is to have homeless people but provide foreigners with houses and all the freebies... I have seen many losing everything overnight when the recession started, they are not uneducated or lazy but no one helps them (which will be easier than illiterate "no job's good for me bums") As for the food, they should have started it a long time ago. We have food banks (coolers) on some streets and restaurants can leave unsold food for those in need...and they do... The disturbing fact here is that the people who want to save money use food banks more than those who have nothing at all...
While growing up, my parents used to force me to clean my plate, saying "galrads, there are little babies starving in Africa and you can't shovel in what's on your plate."
I hated that because I seemed to always have more on plate than I could safely consume.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
galrads: While growing up, my parents used to force me to clean my plate, saying "galrads, there are little babies starving in Africa and you can't shovel in what's on your plate."
I hated that because I seemed to always have more on plate than I could safely consume.
Well I hope they got you to wash up (the dinner plates)
galrads: While growing up, my parents used to force me to clean my plate, saying "galrads, there are little babies starving in Africa and you can't shovel in what's on your plate."
I hated that because I seemed to always have more on plate than I could safely consume.
The dates on food labels can be confusing. The truth is, they often have nothing to do with food safety. Here's what you really need to know.
You’ve assembled everything you need for the perfect deli sandwich: Genoa salami, prosciutto, some thinly sliced provolone and a crusty baguette. To top it all off, you reach into the fridge for your favorite spicy mustard.
And then you notice it. The “Best By” date on the mustard bottle was 4 months ago!
You might think you’ve got to ditch the mustard and settle for a ho-hum sandwich. But that’s not the case. Here’s what you need to know about food expiration dates:
Use-By, Best if Used By, Best By, Best Before: These "use by" and “best” dates are generally found on shelf-stable products such as mustard, mayonnaise, and peanut butter.
The date, which is provided voluntarily by the manufacturer, tells you how long the product is likely to remain at its absolute best quality when unopened. But, as the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service points out, it is not a safety date.
After the "use by" or “best” date has passed, you may start to notice gradual changes in the unopened product’s texture, color, or flavor. But as long as you’ve been storing the unopened item properly, you can generally consume it beyond this date.
Your best bet for gauging whether an unopened shelf-stable product with this type of date is still of satisfactory quality is to simply smell and examine it first. Always discard foods that have developed an off odor, flavor or appearance. You can also consult the Keep It or Toss It database for optimal food storage times, for both unopened and opened items.
Sell-By: Most sell-by dates are found on perishables like meat, seafood, poultry and milk. The date is a guide for stores to know how long they can display a particular product.
You should buy the product before the sell-by date expires. But you can still store it at home for some time beyond that date, as long as you follow safe storage procedures (check the Keep It or Toss It database for the shelf life of specific foods).
For instance, milk that has been continuously refrigerated will usually remain drinkable for about one week after the "sell by" date on the package. Likewise, you can store ground beef in your refrigerator for 1 to 2 days after purchasing it, even if the sell-by date expires during that time.
Expires On: The only place you’re likely to encounter this type of date is on infant formula and some baby foods, which are the only food products the federal government regulates with regard to dating. You should always use the product before this expiration date has passed.
Packing codes: These codes, which appear as a series of letters and/or numbers on the package, sometimes indicate the date or time of manufacture. Often, though, they simply appear as a meaningless jumble.
Either way, packing codes help manufacturers and grocers rotate their stock and quickly locate products in the event of a recall. But they are not meant to be interpreted as an indicator of either food safety or quality.
For more information on product dating, visit the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service Web site.
For shelf life informatmation for specific foods, check our Keep It or Toss It database.
Note: This article refers to labeling terminology used in the United States; practices in other countries may differ.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
stringman: Expiration Dates: Should You Pay Attention?
The dates on food labels can be confusing. The truth is, they often have nothing to do with food safety. Here's what you really need to know.
You’ve assembled everything you need for the perfect deli sandwich: Genoa salami, prosciutto, some thinly sliced provolone and a crusty baguette. To top it all off, you reach into the fridge for your favorite spicy mustard.
And then you notice it. The “Best By” date on the mustard bottle was 4 months ago!
You might think you’ve got to ditch the mustard and settle for a ho-hum sandwich. But that’s not the case. Here’s what you need to know about food expiration dates:
Use-By, Best if Used By, Best By, Best Before: These "use by" and “best” dates are generally found on shelf-stable products such as mustard, mayonnaise, and peanut butter.
The date, which is provided voluntarily by the manufacturer, tells you how long the product is likely to remain at its absolute best quality when unopened. But, as the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service points out, it is not a safety date.
After the "use by" or “best” date has passed, you may start to notice gradual changes in the unopened product’s texture, color, or flavor. But as long as you’ve been storing the unopened item properly, you can generally consume it beyond this date.
Your best bet for gauging whether an unopened shelf-stable product with this type of date is still of satisfactory quality is to simply smell and examine it first. Always discard foods that have developed an off odor, flavor or appearance. You can also consult the Keep It or Toss It database for optimal food storage times, for both unopened and opened items.
Sell-By: Most sell-by dates are found on perishables like meat, seafood, poultry and milk. The date is a guide for stores to know how long they can display a particular product.
You should buy the product before the sell-by date expires. But you can still store it at home for some time beyond that date, as long as you follow safe storage procedures (check the Keep It or Toss It database for the shelf life of specific foods).
For instance, milk that has been continuously refrigerated will usually remain drinkable for about one week after the "sell by" date on the package. Likewise, you can store ground beef in your refrigerator for 1 to 2 days after purchasing it, even if the sell-by date expires during that time.
Expires On: The only place you’re likely to encounter this type of date is on infant formula and some baby foods, which are the only food products the federal government regulates with regard to dating. You should always use the product before this expiration date has passed.
Packing codes: These codes, which appear as a series of letters and/or numbers on the package, sometimes indicate the date or time of manufacture. Often, though, they simply appear as a meaningless jumble.
Either way, packing codes help manufacturers and grocers rotate their stock and quickly locate products in the event of a recall. But they are not meant to be interpreted as an indicator of either food safety or quality.
For more information on product dating, visit the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food Safety and Inspection Service Web site.
For shelf life informatmation for specific foods, check our Keep It or Toss It database.
Note: This article refers to labeling terminology used in the United States; practices in other countries may differ.
Thanks for the info Stringman, this explains why the French made the ruling not to throw away food , in Supermarkets, past best by date, but to distribute amongst poor and needy people.
tomcatwarne: Thanks for the info Stringman, this explains why the French made the ruling not to throw away food , in Supermarkets, past best by date, but to distribute amongst poor and needy people.
pat8lanips: Its a double edged sword. Nobody wants to waste food, but if you give it to the unwashed masses they'll simply wait at the exact spot for the next handout. And be very antisocial if its not to their liking or a bit late.
Jesus , I have seen that . Make em pay even if its a little .
KremaP: The big shame is to have homeless people but provide foreigners with houses and all the freebies... I have seen many losing everything overnight when the recession started, they are not uneducated or lazy but no one helps them (which will be easier than illiterate "no job's good for me bums") As for the food, they should have started it a long time ago. We have food banks (coolers) on some streets and restaurants can leave unsold food for those in need...and they do... The disturbing fact here is that the people who want to save money use food banks more than those who have nothing at all...
I see this very same thing as well. I know that many people are doing what they think is best but there is more to it. Many are grateful and need this food. Others do not want it and would rather that you bring them the fast food. And what a nation will do for outsiders and allow their own to fall to the ground is very common. It is ridiculous to see happen before out eyes.
The amount of food wasted in China is beyond belief, It was a real eye opener to me when I first came here, going for a dinner with colleagues really appalled me, they would order dish after dish after dish, and at the end of the meal only half would have been eaten, sometimes they pack the leftovers into boxes and take home, but more often they just walk away from the table.
When I asked about it, was told, well our parents went hungry, so now we like to show we are rich enough to leave it behind, dreadful in my opinion.
tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
hanks for your input fom China, are there hungry there? Is any attempt made to assress the problem?
I take on board the drawbacks of giving free rood. Whatever system you have it will be abused by someone, I have seen people queue in food banks and then drive away in their flash cards, but is this a reason to penalise the people in real need and their children. Personally I don't think so JMO'
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
rizlared: When I asked about it, was told, well our parents went hungry, so now we like to show we are rich enough to leave it behind, dreadful in my opinion.
Just like the baby boomers. Greedy, selfish and wasteful. It does make sense for the first generation of wealth to be scumbags; Class and taste take time to develop, it never was just about money.
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Should all countries do this?
Hate it. What we should do is ban food donation altogether to encourage poor people to become immortal.