ChesneyChrist: It supports the idea that the wealthy are entitled to all the pie and the poor fight over the crumbs created by rich people not opening and closing their mouth properly when they eat.
At least that's the reality amongst older more for less generations which prioritises the maximum consumption of goods. inthe context charity is granting license to waste and the inefficent use of resources. Charity may work better in the younger less is more generations, charity is a license to waste when it's completely divorced form the concept of thrift.
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
I was fortunate to be able to work on a food truck feeding homeless. They called me soup man . I served out cups of nourishing soup by the the thousands. In hot weather, starving burnt out folks in long food lines can get very violent.
raphael119: I was fortunate to be able to work on a food truck feeding homeless. They called me soup man . I served out cups of nourishing soup by the the thousands. In hot weather, starving burnt out folks in long food lines can get very violent.
ChesneyChrist: At least that's the reality amongst older more for less generations which prioritises the maximum consumption of goods. inthe context charity is granting license to waste and the inefficent use of resources. Charity may work better in the younger less is more generations, charity is a license to waste when it's completely divorced form the concept of thrift.
Royals wearing the same dresses they wore 5 years ago would have been unthinkable at one time, but this is the generational shift from more for less to less is more in action.
Imo there has to be a way of increasing VAT and consumption taxes on the idle rich to control the spendthrift arses, there is a better way than idiotic charity to appease the guilt the greedy feel over their monstrous and unchristian appetites. And a tax on land should come in too. Being in posessions of things of great expense and little utility should be penalised heavily for the benefit of all.
LeeCharming: ...Hello people... ...In the United Kingdom we have various charity shops including Oxfam, The Red cross, Cancer research etc… …Do you shop in charity shops? …Do you donate to charity shops? ….Do you think charity shops are a good thing?
Here the charity shops are way overpriced
Goods are all donated, ie secondhand, yet the prices are so inflated that you find yourself walking out as brand-new is the same price or cheaper
I guess the profit goes to administration of these stores, seems the original purpose is lost.
ChesneyChrist: Imo there has to be a way of increasing VAT and consumption taxes on the idle rich to control the spendthrift arses, there is a better way than idiotic charity to appease the guilt the greedy feel over their monstrous and unchristian appetites. And a tax on land should come in too. Being in posessions of things of great expense and little utility should be penalised heavily for the benefit of all.
Antique dealerships and housewives hosting parties for charity and calling themselves entrepreneurs are things we want to ruthlessly and fantically shove into the grave. We need to hang these neo-victorians who piss from on high with a pittance and build a modern and functioning first world state where grief tourism and poverty safari no longer take place, a society which has a floor no person can sink beneath and ceiling to the money and power which can concentrate in one person or small group of persons.
pKrema: People love charities because donating makes them feel less guilty of being greedy and spoiled consumers...
Krema my beautiful friend. I kind of felt that before but now I am not a spoiled shopper anymore. But I do it more for Tax purposes and make others happy. The only draw back is that my clothes and shoes are so petite that I feel with the average American shopper, might not be that of great demand. I do send plenty of boxes to the PI and I know so many of my relatives are so elated knowing these gifts do arrive once every four months.
LeeCharming: ...Hello people... ...In the United Kingdom we have various charity shops including Oxfam, The Red cross, Cancer research etc… …Do you shop in charity shops? …Do you donate to charity shops? ….Do you think charity shops are a good thing?
1. Hello yourself. 2. Yes, I shop in charity shops. 3. Yes, I donate to them. 4. Yes, they are a good thing.
We have The Salvation Army Second-Hand Store, and Hospice Thrift Store. Both employ people at fair rates, and the profits go to very good causes. We do have a GoodWill store, but I have heard negative things over the years about them, so don't go there very much.
rohaan: 1. Hello yourself. 2. Yes, I shop in charity shops. 3. Yes, I donate to them. 4. Yes, they are a good thing.
We have The Salvation Army Second-Hand Store, and Hospice Thrift Store. Both employ people at fair rates, and the profits go to very good causes. We do have a GoodWill store, but I have heard negative things over the years about them, so don't go there very much.
Hi Ro!! How are you? I have missed you!!
I think the Goodwill stores have turned around and are doing quite well now. I've been to several in the Medford, OR area with my daughter as I am always on the lookout for used game boards (like Clue and Monopoly) to make notebooks out of. We stayed in White City a couple of years ago visiting relatives and hit up all the thrift stores looking for board games. And the Goodwill in White City area was really nice and clean, think it was fairly new.
I do mixed media and Finnabair inspired things so am always looking for odd things to use in those types of stores. Old cameras and old alarm clocks with the bells on them. Fun places and great for the creative mind.
M4_Mischief: No...not for real...that was purely sarcasm...although I do want to tell them they should date themselves because they hate everybody else....
So, you label people who see the things in a way different from your as haters?! How can you be sure than they don't do more good to other's lifes then donating the result of their spoilness? You are judging too quick...or you believe forums are enough to know what people are?! Some just don't like to brag how "wonderful" they are...
LeeCharming: ...Hello people... ...In the United Kingdom we have various charity shops including Oxfam, The Red cross, Cancer research etc… …Do you shop in charity shops? …Do you donate to charity shops? ….Do you think charity shops are a good thing?
My theory is that once the number of charity shops and robots reach critical mass we'll see communism in response to the appalling social conditions. The Victorians felt they could address public problems through personal feelgoods and they were wrong to not do more in the face of technologically-induced crap lives... driverless cars + charity shops = 21st century Bolshevism.
ChesneyChrist: My theory is that once the number of charity shops and robots reach critical mass we'll see communism in response to the appalling social conditions. The Victorians felt they could address public problems through personal feelgoods and they were wrong to not do more in the face of technologically-induced crap lives... driverless cars + charity shops = 21st century Bolshevism.
You must believe that the government has a role in tackling poverty. Whatever altruistic apparatus is adopted to fend off communism - such as the NHS - will work very badly if you're forced into adopting it by accident, and not by design. Whatever this apparatus is you do not want it function as badly as public healthcare does in America today.
ChesneyChrist: You must believe that the government has a role in tackling poverty. Whatever altruistic apparatus is adopted to fend off communism - such as the NHS - will work very badly if you're forced into adopting it by accident, and not by design. Whatever this apparatus is you do not want it function as badly as public healthcare does in America today.
Anybody who doesn't believe that the welfare fends off communism should take a look at themselves. Government providing welfare and inflated wages is the reason the baby boomer middle class grew so large and making it very easy to be middle class is the reason why baby boomers are anti-socialist and a generation has not been so against the public good and pro-ruthless since the early 19th century crushing of the poor laws which were estbalished centuries before by Queen Elizabeth to address poverty. There is in the baby boomer generation as in the early 19th century a generation which became middle class very quickly and rather easily and then as now what came was a war on noblesse oblige - the concept that the powerful have a duty to the poor was the enemy of this nouveau, got-rich-quick middle class.
ChesneyChrist: ... There is in the baby boomer generation as in the early 19th century a generation which became middle class very quickly and rather easily and then as now what came was a war on noblesse oblige - the concept that the powerful have a duty to the poor was the enemy of this nouveau, got-rich-quick middle class.
Richard, I hope you comment like this over on Galrads "Should Germany..." thread.
ChesneyChrist: Anybody who doesn't believe that the welfare fends off communism should take a look at themselves. Government providing welfare and inflated wages is the reason the baby boomer middle class grew so large and making it very easy to be middle class is the reason why baby boomers are anti-socialist and a generation has not been so against the public good and pro-ruthless since the early 19th century crushing of the poor laws which were estbalished centuries before by Queen Elizabeth to address poverty. There is in the baby boomer generation as in the early 19th century a generation which became middle class very quickly and rather easily and then as now what came was a war on noblesse oblige - the concept that the powerful have a duty to the poor was the enemy of this nouveau, got-rich-quick middle class.
Of course these generations are identical. The ways of getting-rich-quick were not the same where baby boomers have an enlarged middle class because of government subsidy the early 19th century generation got-rich-quick looting the empire and turning British towns and cities into a dustbun of dirt and disease.
But the attitude is the similar to those people who put Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite to the sword and went on to create the increasingly appalling social conditions of the 19th century.
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