The threat of the Chinese ideology ( Archived) (37)

Feb 19, 2020 11:13 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
@Malfidus

They shouldn't integrate here, they should change the things in their own country.
Better start a civil war for a good change, then bring the problems to someone else.
In the Netherlands we hardly have the capacity, the space or the money to build houses for all of these people.
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Feb 19, 2020 2:06 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
China can't really defend their offshore assets yet.

I just have this non-human feeling around Chinese. They don't care about others. not their own, not us, not foreigners.

it will be hard to win against people that don't think about values we have been thinking about for centuries.

We should improve our society and show how it can be done. or we will lose
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Feb 20, 2020 4:21 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Most people in China care, it's just their government.
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Feb 20, 2020 4:46 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
Malfidus: @ PeKaatje

It is not happening in The Netherlands alone, it is everywhere in Europe except is the post communistic countries. They show they got balls and deal rigorously with the problem resulting in a disapproval by the EU Parliament but encouraged by its native people.
I believe if people want to integrate we must give them an opportunity,but if they fail or refuse....no mercy !
Let them integrate on their own time,with their own money in their own countries!
Europe doesn't need their culture!
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Feb 20, 2020 5:14 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
PeKaatje
PeKaatjePeKaatjeAnkeveen, North Holland Netherlands59 Threads 3 Polls 6,334 Posts
Conrad73: Let them integrate on their own time,with their own money in their own countries!
Europe doesn't need their culture!
Totally agree, a government based on religion is ridicullous.
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Feb 20, 2020 7:35 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
Socialism with Chinese characteristics is not proselytising evangelistic or expansionist. It is unlike the religions of the world. It is not interested in knocking anyone off. It is self-absorbed. It is no threat. Apart from historically gobbling up neighbours such as Tibet (taken over by the Mongols in fact, 700+ years ago) northern Vietnam and western regions it has not been an invader, whereas the western sharks, including the UK France Germany USA did, like attacking a stranded whale, invade and seize its territories (including Hong Kong). It is clearly focussed on seizing the South China sea territories, and on regaining 'Formosa' taken from it by Japan. Taiwan won't happen because that would guarantee a war.

There is no threat. The USA on the other hand, is quite another kettle of fish.
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Feb 23, 2020 5:59 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
BadlyDrawn
BadlyDrawnBadlyDrawnLos Angeles, California USA22 Posts
Apologies in advance for already posting this on the blog page, but I think this is a better home for my latest creation.

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Feb 23, 2020 8:19 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
This thread just shows the ignorance help by the west regarding China.
Firstly Xi JinPing is just a puppet, controlled by the CCP. He has very little power, and is often criticised by the party for speaking without their permission.

Some say the Chinese and especially the CCP don't care about people, yet this party has taken millions out of extreme poverty and put them in decent homes with running water. Why go to the huge expense that incurs if they don't give a toss about people?

China has been viciously attacked and invaded in the past, the CCP has vowed that will never happen again, they have set up a very clear policy of defence around their country. Some of the defences may be over the top, the south China sea for example, but they are scared that the USA will use their military power in that region and feel the world's displeasure is worth the risk for the protection it offers China.

Economically, China has grown bigger and faster than any other nation, which scares the USA, there are so fearful of losing the number one position that they will do anything to protect their jobs and power. Putting themselves before the people.

Yes China has invested heavily in foreign nations, Africa is a good example, but to suggest they are doing it to take that country over is somewhat imaginative, China is simply ensuring that their market place grows thus giving more jobs to the Chinese people, which in turn increases the economic strength of China, which allows for internal investment and less poverty. What is so sinister about that?

Spreading lies and mistruths about China makes the USA appear stronger, just look at the coronavirus, the USA had more deaths from the flu pandemic a few years back. But because this latest virus started in China they have blown it up out of all proportion and exaggerated the effects and the origins of the virus.

By making China the world's number one enemy, the USA can surreptitiously use the diversion to attack, invade and interfere with other nations, while allowing to top 5% to get richer of the back of the arms sales used

You need to ask yourself the question "WHY" why would China want to rule the entire world when they are struggling to rule China on its own.
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Feb 24, 2020 1:10 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
rizlared: This thread just shows the ignorance help by the west regarding China.
Firstly Xi JinPing is just a puppet, controlled by the CCP. He has very little power, and is often criticised by the party for speaking without their permission.

Some say the Chinese and especially the CCP don't care about people, yet this party has taken millions out of extreme poverty and put them in decent homes with running water. Why go to the huge expense that incurs if they don't give a toss about people?

China has been viciously attacked and invaded in the past, the CCP has vowed that will never happen again, they have set up a very clear policy of defence around their country. Some of the defences may be over the top, the south China sea for example, but they are scared that the USA will use their military power in that region and feel the world's displeasure is worth the risk for the protection it offers China.

Economically, China has grown bigger and faster than any other nation, which scares the USA, there are so fearful of losing the number one position that they will do anything to protect their jobs and power. Putting themselves before the people.

Yes China has invested heavily in foreign nations, Africa is a good example, but to suggest they are doing it to take that country over is somewhat imaginative, China is simply ensuring that their market place grows thus giving more jobs to the Chinese people, which in turn increases the economic strength of China, which allows for internal investment and less poverty. What is so sinister about that?

Spreading lies and mistruths about China makes the USA appear stronger, just look at the coronavirus, the USA had more deaths from the flu pandemic a few years back. But because this latest virus started in China they have blown it up out of all proportion and exaggerated the effects and the origins of the virus.

By making China the world's number one enemy, the USA can surreptitiously use the diversion to attack, invade and interfere with other nations, while allowing to top 5% to get richer of the back of the arms sales used

You need to ask yourself the question "WHY" why would China want to rule the entire world when they are struggling to rule China on its own.
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Feb 24, 2020 1:20 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
rizlared: This thread just shows the ignorance help by the west regarding China.
Firstly Xi JinPing is just a puppet, controlled by the CCP. He has very little power, and is often criticised by the party for speaking without their permission.

Some say the Chinese and especially the CCP don't care about people, yet this party has taken millions out of extreme poverty and put them in decent homes with running water. Why go to the huge expense that incurs if they don't give a toss about people?

China has been viciously attacked and invaded in the past, the CCP has vowed that will never happen again, they have set up a very clear policy of defence around their country. Some of the defences may be over the top, the south China sea for example, but they are scared that the USA will use their military power in that region and feel the world's displeasure is worth the risk for the protection it offers China.

Economically, China has grown bigger and faster than any other nation, which scares the USA, there are so fearful of losing the number one position that they will do anything to protect their jobs and power. Putting themselves before the people.

Yes China has invested heavily in foreign nations, Africa is a good example, but to suggest they are doing it to take that country over is somewhat imaginative, China is simply ensuring that their market place grows thus giving more jobs to the Chinese people, which in turn increases the economic strength of China, which allows for internal investment and less poverty. What is so sinister about that?

Spreading lies and mistruths about China makes the USA appear stronger, just look at the coronavirus, the USA had more deaths from the flu pandemic a few years back. But because this latest virus started in China they have blown it up out of all proportion and exaggerated the effects and the origins of the virus.

By making China the world's number one enemy, the USA can surreptitiously use the diversion to attack, invade and interfere with other nations, while allowing to top 5% to get richer of the back of the arms sales used

You need to ask yourself the question "WHY" why would China want to rule the entire world when they are struggling to rule China on its own.
Xinnián kuàilè
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Feb 24, 2020 1:09 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts
It looks like the ideology thing is about division, racisom and hate towards other people... not the best side of yourselves people..
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Feb 24, 2020 1:26 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 1,555 Posts
Butcher559: It looks like the ideology thing is about division, racisom and hate towards other people... not the best side of yourselves people..
Butch

Designed to keep us distracted...not a good look I agree...sigh
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Mar 18, 2020 5:32 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
Malfidus
MalfidusMalfidusAntwerp, Antwerpen Belgium7 Threads 117 Posts
Is it because of self defense against a dangerous religion, being an anachronism in this modern age? Or is it for the same reason as Israel treats the Palestinians ? or is it worser??? cool
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Mar 18, 2020 10:59 PM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Malfidus: The problem is that nor Europe nor the US have a longterm political strategy  Russia and the China do.
So .........wait and see.
I edited that down to the only line that contained any sense !
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Mar 19, 2020 1:01 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
Singapore faces bigger contraction as Malaysia shuts borders



When it is completed next year, the first phase of the US$3.4 billion complex will have the capacity to refine 175,000 barrels of crude oil per day. It is Brunei's largest-ever foreign investment project and the biggest single overseas investment by a Chinese private company.

It’s like a cultural melting pot here. Despite the differences in language, culture and dietary habits, teamwork keeps us together

Ahiraj Tyagi, project coordinator

The complex, listed by China as a key project for the Belt and Road Initiative, also represents efforts by Brunei, a member of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, to partner with Chinese businesses to diversify its sources of income and further improve infrastructure.

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Mar 19, 2020 1:18 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
Len05: China can't really defend their offshore assets yet.

I just have this non-human feeling around Chinese. They don't care about others. not their own, not us, not foreigners.

it will be hard to win against people that don't think about values we have been thinking about for centuries.

We should improve our society and show how it can be done. or we will lose
More muppetry anyone ?

1) It will be impossible to win 'against' the Chinese because their culture, mindset that has developed over many thousands of years understand many things including that 'The head cannot move forward without it brings the body and tail with it'

But the hypocrisy abounds - you alleged 2) That they do not care about others - yet they have invested heavily in under-developed nations WITHOUT creating what Pompous Mick (arguably the world's most prolific liar) calls debt -entrapment. The new silk road initiative has done more in the last ten years to connect and develop the world than 'The West' have done by creating and propogating wars in the last hundred. China has not obliged the recipients of it's aid to provide them with military bases and have not inflicted unruly military populations upon their civilians.

3) We 'should improve our society' ... well, that would likely involve a few people who make a lot of money for themselves out of hijacking governments and corporations, it would mean a return to 'old values ( which incidentally the Chinese, Russians and Indians among others still espouse). It would most certainly involve a necessity for 'self discipline' ( doing what is best for self and community alike) and a degree of 'self responsibility' for one's actions. But, do you imagine the Dutch or the US or any other western nation admitting they got it wrong ?

Best not to try and hold your breath while waiting for THAT to happen !
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Mar 19, 2020 1:44 AM CST The threat of the Chinese ideology
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
China make good eats. Me likeee!


If Putin can just grab a year round port and flip the West the bird, imagine what China can do. Soon they may buy our stock market. Me wannneeeee cheeeeeep!!!!very mad u give me!!!!!!!! very mad
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