Why Do We Eat Bad Food? (41)
ChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 PostsBecause it's cheap and easy and not fair to ask a peasant to learn 500 years of cultural development in a month.
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The free-market way of handling large-scale farms would be to let sovereigns tax market share instead of income. Since their role is to safeguard and oversee markets, which is a service to businesses, it makes sense that they charge for it.
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cidraon: The free-market way of handling large-scale farms would be to let sovereigns tax market share instead of income. Since their role is to safeguard and oversee markets, which is a service to businesses, it makes sense that they charge for it.
I'm afraid economics isn't my forte.I don't suppose you could explain that to me like I'm a two year old, please?
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You could ask Jeffery Dahmer, OP, if he had survived prison.. He was the worst junk food junky ever.. 
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mikey4691: You could ask Jeffery Dahmer, OP, if he had survived prison.. He was the worst junk food junky ever..
I don't think it was the junk food that killed Dahmer. His sentence was 941 years but he only served 3 years before he died in prison. Perhaps the rotten bodies he ate after he killed them is what did him in.------ This thread is Archived ------
secretagent09: I don't think it was the junk food that killed Dahmer. His sentence was 941 years but he only served 3 years before he died in prison. Perhaps the rotten bodies he ate after he killed them is what did him in.
He probably tried to bite the other inmate who killed him.. ------ This thread is Archived ------
In the Netherlands if you have a small farm, you can't survive, supermarkets pay under de price the farmer should get for his products and the supermarkets make huge profits on these products.
Also farmers are forced to use a lot of pesticides, 1 fly on a cabbage and the whole production is destroyed. Also the farmers are forced to invest in ways to cause less damage to the environment.
In the supermarkest and everywhere you look, unhealthy food is less expensive than healthy food. And if you have a job that pays about minimum wage, you have to eat unhealthy food or skip several meals a month.
Supermarkets produce food themselves too, and in every product is to much salt and/or sugar.
When I was young mothers stayed at home and took care for diner now everyone (women included) has to work, and if you are tired after an 8 hours day at work, it's easy to order a pizza, or buy microwavefood.
So it's the system that ain't working the way it should. It forces people to make bad choises, and then they say we eat wrong and to much, we are all obese, they even say we eat to much and that's why we have fat bellies.
I say, make the healthy food cheap, the unhealthy food expensive and see how fast things change.
Also farmers are forced to use a lot of pesticides, 1 fly on a cabbage and the whole production is destroyed. Also the farmers are forced to invest in ways to cause less damage to the environment.
In the supermarkest and everywhere you look, unhealthy food is less expensive than healthy food. And if you have a job that pays about minimum wage, you have to eat unhealthy food or skip several meals a month.
Supermarkets produce food themselves too, and in every product is to much salt and/or sugar.
When I was young mothers stayed at home and took care for diner now everyone (women included) has to work, and if you are tired after an 8 hours day at work, it's easy to order a pizza, or buy microwavefood.
So it's the system that ain't working the way it should. It forces people to make bad choises, and then they say we eat wrong and to much, we are all obese, they even say we eat to much and that's why we have fat bellies.
I say, make the healthy food cheap, the unhealthy food expensive and see how fast things change.
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mikey4691: You could ask Jeffery Dahmer, OP, if he had survived prison.. He was the worst junk food junky ever..
I badly want to make a 'homecooking from fresh' joke, but it would be in poor taste.------ This thread is Archived ------
PeKaatje: In the Netherlands if you have a small farm, you can't survive, supermarkets pay under de price the farmer should get for his products and the supermarkets make huge profits on these products.
Also farmers are forced to use a lot of pesticides, 1 fly on a cabbage and the whole production is destroyed. Also the farmers are forced to invest in ways to cause less damage to the environment.
In the supermarkest and everywhere you look, unhealthy food is less expensive than healthy food. And if you have a job that pays about minimum wage, you have to eat unhealthy food or skip several meals a month.
Supermarkets produce food themselves too, and in every product is to much salt and/or sugar.
When I was young mothers stayed at home and took care for diner now everyone (women included) has to work, and if you are tired after an 8 hours day at work, it's easy to order a pizza, or buy microwavefood.
So it's the system that ain't working the way it should. It forces people to make bad choises, and then they say we eat wrong and to much, we are all obese, they even say we eat to much and that's why we have fat bellies.
I say, make the healthy food cheap, the unhealthy food expensive and see how fast things change.
Yep but without mega-farms we’d have different lifestylesAlso farmers are forced to use a lot of pesticides, 1 fly on a cabbage and the whole production is destroyed. Also the farmers are forced to invest in ways to cause less damage to the environment.
In the supermarkest and everywhere you look, unhealthy food is less expensive than healthy food. And if you have a job that pays about minimum wage, you have to eat unhealthy food or skip several meals a month.
Supermarkets produce food themselves too, and in every product is to much salt and/or sugar.
When I was young mothers stayed at home and took care for diner now everyone (women included) has to work, and if you are tired after an 8 hours day at work, it's easy to order a pizza, or buy microwavefood.
So it's the system that ain't working the way it should. It forces people to make bad choises, and then they say we eat wrong and to much, we are all obese, they even say we eat to much and that's why we have fat bellies.
I say, make the healthy food cheap, the unhealthy food expensive and see how fast things change.
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PeKaatje: In the Netherlands if you have a small farm, you can't survive, supermarkets pay under de price the farmer should get for his products and the supermarkets make huge profits on these products.
Also farmers are forced to use a lot of pesticides, 1 fly on a cabbage and the whole production is destroyed. Also the farmers are forced to invest in ways to cause less damage to the environment.
In the supermarkest and everywhere you look, unhealthy food is less expensive than healthy food. And if you have a job that pays about minimum wage, you have to eat unhealthy food or skip several meals a month.
Supermarkets produce food themselves too, and in every product is to much salt and/or sugar.
When I was young mothers stayed at home and took care for diner now everyone (women included) has to work, and if you are tired after an 8 hours day at work, it's easy to order a pizza, or buy microwavefood.
So it's the system that ain't working the way it should. It forces people to make bad choises, and then they say we eat wrong and to much, we are all obese, they even say we eat to much and that's why we have fat bellies.
I say, make the healthy food cheap, the unhealthy food expensive and see how fast things change.
There is a similar situation here, but it's been getting better over the last 30 years.Also farmers are forced to use a lot of pesticides, 1 fly on a cabbage and the whole production is destroyed. Also the farmers are forced to invest in ways to cause less damage to the environment.
In the supermarkest and everywhere you look, unhealthy food is less expensive than healthy food. And if you have a job that pays about minimum wage, you have to eat unhealthy food or skip several meals a month.
Supermarkets produce food themselves too, and in every product is to much salt and/or sugar.
When I was young mothers stayed at home and took care for diner now everyone (women included) has to work, and if you are tired after an 8 hours day at work, it's easy to order a pizza, or buy microwavefood.
So it's the system that ain't working the way it should. It forces people to make bad choises, and then they say we eat wrong and to much, we are all obese, they even say we eat to much and that's why we have fat bellies.
I say, make the healthy food cheap, the unhealthy food expensive and see how fast things change.
I live in the middle of nowhere, but I can get a lot of fresh veg and plant based wholefoods in regular shops.
I can't afford to eat organic, though.
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jac_the_gripper: I badly want to make a 'homecooking from fresh' joke, but it would be in poor taste.
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jac_the_gripper: I'm afraid economics isn't my forte.
I don't suppose you could explain that to me like I'm a two year old, please?
A two-year-old can understand very little about economics. :\ I'll try for 15-year-old and up:I don't suppose you could explain that to me like I'm a two year old, please?
Large company = much profit, much corruption, little morale.
Small company = small profit or loss, little corruption, much or little morale depending on who the owner is.
Taxes should be applied to that which is harmful for the society. In the above, corruption and the missing scope to act according to good morale are harmful. Consequently, it makes sense to tax the size of businesses.
This has supposedly, but not really, been accomplished indirectly by taxing income and profits for both businesses and their employees. Two problems present themselves:
1. Since labour is positive for society it shouldn't be taxed, but it is indirectly taxed by meeting out the income it yields from workers who get paid.
2. The advantage that large-scale businesses have over smaller ones is realized when they buy, sell and produce. The taxes only apply later when the owners want to move money from the corporation to themselves. Such taxes therefore lack the regulating function which could have justified the breach of ownership rights that any tax-wielding authority is guilty of.
1 & 2 has led to a debate where corrupt owners of and executives in large corporations try to pretend that the difference between their remunerations and the income of someone in a smaller company would have something to do with their excellence and ability work 65 times harder. It also impairs the quality of agricultural produce, as you observed in the opening post, limits choice in the IT-sector, and has many other disastrous consequences.
Since a business typically consist of:
1. buying something
2. refining it
3. selling it, and
4. administration
... with a tax on market share, only a quarter of the business's activities need to be accounted for to a tax authority, that is item 3. The downside would involve the difficulty of defining a market. For example does a seller of carrots compete with a seller of potatoes?
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Why do we eat bad food?
Baffles me too. It was said brazillions times that junk is bad for you, but people continue to consume it in huge amounts.
As to large corporations taking over small businesses... large corporations own the Earth, that's why. Is there a remedy against them? It's like asking whether there is a remedy against human greed. Human being is a synonym to greed and it will kill off that strain. Unfortunately after they have killed off all other life on this planet.
Baffles me too. It was said brazillions times that junk is bad for you, but people continue to consume it in huge amounts.
As to large corporations taking over small businesses... large corporations own the Earth, that's why. Is there a remedy against them? It's like asking whether there is a remedy against human greed. Human being is a synonym to greed and it will kill off that strain. Unfortunately after they have killed off all other life on this planet.
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Tulefell: Is there a remedy against them? It's like asking whether there is a remedy against human greed.
Sounds like you own more stock than me.------ This thread is Archived ------
Bad food is usually delicious 
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cidraon: A two-year-old can understand very little about economics. :\ I'll try for 15-year-old and up:
Large company = much profit, much corruption, little morale.
Small company = small profit or loss, little corruption, much or little morale depending on who the owner is.
Taxes should be applied to that which is harmful for the society. In the above, corruption and the missing scope to act according to good morale are harmful. Consequently, it makes sense to tax the size of businesses.
This has supposedly, but not really, been accomplished indirectly by taxing income and profits for both businesses and their employees. Two problems present themselves:
1. Since labour is positive for society it shouldn't be taxed, but it is indirectly taxed by meeting out the income it yields from workers who get paid.
2. The advantage that large-scale businesses have over smaller ones is realized when they buy, sell and produce. The taxes only apply later when the owners want to move money from the corporation to themselves. Such taxes therefore lack the regulating function which could have justified the breach of ownership rights that any tax-wielding authority is guilty of.
1 & 2 has led to a debate where corrupt owners of and executives in large corporations try to pretend that the difference between their remunerations and the income of someone in a smaller company would have something to do with their excellence and ability work 65 times harder. It also impairs the quality of agricultural produce, as you observed in the opening post, limits choice in the IT-sector, and has many other disastrous consequences.
Since a business typically consist of:
1. buying something
2. refining it
3. selling it, and
4. administration
... with a tax on market share, only a quarter of the business's activities need to be accounted for to a tax authority, that is item 3. The downside would involve the difficulty of defining a market. For example does a seller of carrots compete with a seller of potatoes?
Thankyou fr that explanation, Cid. Large company = much profit, much corruption, little morale.
Small company = small profit or loss, little corruption, much or little morale depending on who the owner is.
Taxes should be applied to that which is harmful for the society. In the above, corruption and the missing scope to act according to good morale are harmful. Consequently, it makes sense to tax the size of businesses.
This has supposedly, but not really, been accomplished indirectly by taxing income and profits for both businesses and their employees. Two problems present themselves:
1. Since labour is positive for society it shouldn't be taxed, but it is indirectly taxed by meeting out the income it yields from workers who get paid.
2. The advantage that large-scale businesses have over smaller ones is realized when they buy, sell and produce. The taxes only apply later when the owners want to move money from the corporation to themselves. Such taxes therefore lack the regulating function which could have justified the breach of ownership rights that any tax-wielding authority is guilty of.
1 & 2 has led to a debate where corrupt owners of and executives in large corporations try to pretend that the difference between their remunerations and the income of someone in a smaller company would have something to do with their excellence and ability work 65 times harder. It also impairs the quality of agricultural produce, as you observed in the opening post, limits choice in the IT-sector, and has many other disastrous consequences.
Since a business typically consist of:
1. buying something
2. refining it
3. selling it, and
4. administration
... with a tax on market share, only a quarter of the business's activities need to be accounted for to a tax authority, that is item 3. The downside would involve the difficulty of defining a market. For example does a seller of carrots compete with a seller of potatoes?
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Track16: Bad food is usually delicious
That's a matter of opinion. Given the choice between a McDonalds and saffron and cumin braised carrots, I'd take the carrots as far away from the nauseating smell of the junk fodder as I could.
I think we learn what tastes nice and what doesn't.
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cidraon: Sounds like you own more stock than me.
I've invested enough in my little spade quite early. Helps me dig my gold :)------ This thread is Archived ------
Tulefell: Why do we eat bad food?
Baffles me too. It was said brazillions times that junk is bad for you, but people continue to consume it in huge amounts.
As to large corporations taking over small businesses... large corporations own the Earth, that's why. Is there a remedy against them? It's like asking whether there is a remedy against human greed. Human being is a synonym to greed and it will kill off that strain. Unfortunately after they have killed off all other life on this planet.
If human being is synonymous with greed, then wouldn't we all be greedy?Baffles me too. It was said brazillions times that junk is bad for you, but people continue to consume it in huge amounts.
As to large corporations taking over small businesses... large corporations own the Earth, that's why. Is there a remedy against them? It's like asking whether there is a remedy against human greed. Human being is a synonym to greed and it will kill off that strain. Unfortunately after they have killed off all other life on this planet.
Clearly some people are greedy and some people are not, so it's not as simple as being an innate trait.
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Track16: Bad food is usually delicious
Well... your microbiome decides what food you crave. Change it and you taste changes.------ This thread is Archived ------
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