Fruitful conversation vs Useless argument (25)
Didi7: I really enjoy good conversation with good people. That’s one of the things that I like about CS forums, and blogs too. However, (both offline and online) sometimes persons can be a bit antagonistic, or become offended to the point where obscenities are exchanged and the topic gets seriously side-lined.
But I believe that a ‘spirited’ conversation can be fruitful and civil, if both parties exercise respect and a willingness to consider other points of view than his/her own.
Is it easy to tell the difference between a spirited conversation and a heated argument?
What are the signs?
Just check the emojis used ,that should give you a good idea as to which way it's going.But I believe that a ‘spirited’ conversation can be fruitful and civil, if both parties exercise respect and a willingness to consider other points of view than his/her own.
Is it easy to tell the difference between a spirited conversation and a heated argument?
What are the signs?
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Didi7: I really enjoy good conversation with good people. That’s one of the things that I like about CS forums, and blogs too. However, (both offline and online) sometimes persons can be a bit antagonistic, or become offended to the point where obscenities are exchanged and the topic gets seriously side-lined.
But I believe that a ‘spirited’ conversation can be fruitful and civil, if both parties exercise respect and a willingness to consider other points of view than his/her own.
Is it easy to tell the difference between a spirited conversation and a heated argument?
What are the signs?
It's a shame there's not more people on here like you. But I believe that a ‘spirited’ conversation can be fruitful and civil, if both parties exercise respect and a willingness to consider other points of view than his/her own.
Is it easy to tell the difference between a spirited conversation and a heated argument?
What are the signs?
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Tiger_Moth: Just check the emojis used ,that should give you a good idea as to which way it's going.
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Tiger_Moth: Just check the emojis used ,that should give you a good idea as to which way it's going.
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truheart1941: It's a shame there's not more people on here like you.
I'm sure there are Tru, but some of them may have been 'chased away' by unpleasant comments from others. Sadly...------ This thread is Archived ------
To be honest, I have given that dream up. Here.
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Didi7: I'm sure there are Tru, but some of them may have been 'chased away' by unpleasant comments from others. Sadly...
Truth written.A wise person once said…
Never argue with a fool, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Also said…
It’s hard to tell you apart from a distance.
Being insulted because an opinion differs from THE narrative, generally falls into the ‘pearls before swine’ category. My dad had a saying, ‘Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.’
My $0.04 (adjusted for inflation) of fortune cookie philosophy.
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Stan_147: Truth written.
A wise person once said…
Never argue with a fool, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Also said…
It’s hard to tell you apart from a distance.
Being insulted because an opinion differs from THE narrative, generally falls into the ‘pearls before swine’ category. My dad had a saying, ‘Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.’
My $0.04 (adjusted for inflation) of fortune cookie philosophy.
I've become very good at walking away. A wise person once said…
Never argue with a fool, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Also said…
It’s hard to tell you apart from a distance.
Being insulted because an opinion differs from THE narrative, generally falls into the ‘pearls before swine’ category. My dad had a saying, ‘Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.’
My $0.04 (adjusted for inflation) of fortune cookie philosophy.
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Stan_147: Truth written.
A wise person once said…
Never argue with a fool, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Also said…
It’s hard to tell you apart from a distance.
Being insulted because an opinion differs from THE narrative, generally falls into the ‘pearls before swine’ category. My dad had a saying, ‘Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.’
My $0.04 (adjusted for inflation) of fortune cookie philosophy.
A wise person once said…
Never argue with a fool, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Also said…
It’s hard to tell you apart from a distance.
Being insulted because an opinion differs from THE narrative, generally falls into the ‘pearls before swine’ category. My dad had a saying, ‘Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.’
My $0.04 (adjusted for inflation) of fortune cookie philosophy.
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rohaan: I've become very good at walking away.
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I prefer verbal conversations
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According to Bonobology.com, here are a few reasons why a spirited chat can turn into a heated argument -
*Ineffective communication: Perhaps you communicate in a way that the intended message doesn’t get across. An aggressive and hostile way of expressing oneself can cause damage over time. It all boils down to “how you said it” matters more than “what you said”.
*Unintentional attacks: Unintentional attacks can get misconstrued as intentional. This sets off a cycle of hurt in motion where the partners take turns to hurl accusations and allegations. The end result? Every conversation turns into an argument.
*Deep-seated insecurities: Insecurities (e.g. trust-issues, envy, poor self-esteem, etc) can creep up to burden the conversations.
*Anger issues: If a person turns every conversation into an argument, the reason can be underlying anger management issues. Inability to rein in anger, losing temper at the drop of a hat, and frustrating emotions all over the place, all lead to a messed-up conversation.
*Suppressed emotions: Displaced negativity forms another evil nexus between suppressed emotions and frequent squabbles. The stressful emotions that did not find vent elsewhere, make their way into your conversations, leaving you caught up in arguments.
*Ineffective communication: Perhaps you communicate in a way that the intended message doesn’t get across. An aggressive and hostile way of expressing oneself can cause damage over time. It all boils down to “how you said it” matters more than “what you said”.
*Unintentional attacks: Unintentional attacks can get misconstrued as intentional. This sets off a cycle of hurt in motion where the partners take turns to hurl accusations and allegations. The end result? Every conversation turns into an argument.
*Deep-seated insecurities: Insecurities (e.g. trust-issues, envy, poor self-esteem, etc) can creep up to burden the conversations.
*Anger issues: If a person turns every conversation into an argument, the reason can be underlying anger management issues. Inability to rein in anger, losing temper at the drop of a hat, and frustrating emotions all over the place, all lead to a messed-up conversation.
*Suppressed emotions: Displaced negativity forms another evil nexus between suppressed emotions and frequent squabbles. The stressful emotions that did not find vent elsewhere, make their way into your conversations, leaving you caught up in arguments.
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When both (or all) parties are respectfully listening and NOT INTERRUPTING while ONE person is giving his/her point of view, that is a fair sign that the conversation is productive, or "fruitful". When one or more participants are cutting the one speaking off, raising their voice, etc...that's a very good sign that it is non-productive or "useless". Caveat: "You're talking so loud I can't hear what you're saying"
Did you know that most people being yelled at don't hear a word being said? True story...
Did you know that most people being yelled at don't hear a word being said? True story...
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rohaan: When both (or all) parties are respectfully listening and NOT INTERRUPTING while ONE person is giving his/her point of view, that is a fair sign that the conversation is productive, or "fruitful". When one or more participants are cutting the one speaking off, raising their voice, etc...that's a very good sign that it is non-productive or "useless". Caveat: "You're talking so loud I can't hear what you're saying"
Did you know that most people being yelled at don't hear a word being said? True story...
Good points Rohaan, thanks for sharing.Did you know that most people being yelled at don't hear a word being said? True story...
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A fruitful conversation is when both parties are open minded, willing to listen and consider a different perspective. A useless argument is when one or both parties are dead set in their opinion, not willing to listen and not open to a different prospective.
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Track16: A fruitful conversation is when both parties are open minded, willing to listen and consider a different perspective. A useless argument is when one or both parties are dead set in their opinion, not willing to listen and not open to a different prospective.
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Here some people share their thoughts and some express their frustration.
From both we get life experience.
From both we get life experience.
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Didi7: So true...
Its all in the approach. I have had good conversations in which I have changed my original opinion on something because it was a good conversation and vice versa. As soon as I sense any kind of bigotry, unwillingness, interruptive or otherwise bad behavior, I am done with the conversation, I just check out. I never talk about politics because most people are set in their opinions and its probably not going to change so I see no point in debating it and some people take their politics pretty personally which makes it more volatile.------ This thread is Archived ------
Track16: Its all in the approach. I have had good conversations in which I have changed my original opinion on something because it was a good conversation and vice versa. As soon as I sense any kind of bigotry, unwillingness, interruptive or otherwise bad behavior, I am done with the conversation, I just check out. I never talk about politics because most people are set in their opinions and its probably not going to change so I see no point in debating it and some people take their politics pretty personally which makes it more volatile.
Well said Track, especially about the politics.
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But I believe that a ‘spirited’ conversation can be fruitful and civil, if both parties exercise respect and a willingness to consider other points of view than his/her own.
Is it easy to tell the difference between a spirited conversation and a heated argument?
What are the signs?