Smoking should be banned in all public places ( Archived) (261)

Jun 22, 2008 10:47 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Portiea: Don't know why the big caps on huge...don't know how huge the tabacco industry is...but I believe there is documentation to show that 30, 40, 50 years ago when it became known by the industry just how lethal tabacco is, it was covered up. And, yes, as a former smoker, one who smoked heavily for years, I believe smokers are weak...allowing yourself, your life, to be controlled by a chemical substance is a weakness. However large or not large, however powerful or not powerful the tabacco industry is or isn't, it has only one purpose and that is to make money from the weakness of others.



Hard to believe a private business would want to make money....


Budweiser makes money from my weaknesses on a 90 degree day...
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Jun 22, 2008 10:48 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kkitty
kkittykkittyMinnesota, USA17 Threads 4 Polls 1,055 Posts
I live right by an old army dump site.
my water gets tested every month. I even get the results in the mail.
They say that Mounds View has the safest drinking water because the Government has to pay to treat and test our water.
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Jun 22, 2008 10:57 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
Indyfella: Hard to believe a private business would want to make money.... Budweiser makes money from my weaknesses on a 90 degree day...
Yes, but unless you are an alcoholic, having a few beers is not killing you.
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Jun 22, 2008 10:59 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
WhatUwish4: You may want that armour now
Yep...I avoided this thread for a couple of days...just because I realize there is no point...but my flack jacket is in good condition...thumbs up
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Jun 22, 2008 11:05 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
There's nothing like a good intellectual discussion that really proves nothing! laugh
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Jun 22, 2008 11:07 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Indyfella: There's nothing like a good intellectual discussion that really proves nothing!


No better place to prove that point than on some of these threads!

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Jun 22, 2008 11:08 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: No better place to prove that point than on some of these threads!



correction: ALL
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Jun 22, 2008 11:25 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
reelman90
reelman90reelman90Richmond, Kentucky USA3 Threads 387 Posts
Banning smoking or making cigarettes illegal would throw the US economy into a deep depression. No ifs, ands or butts!

What about all the tax dollars from tobacco sales that is used to fund schools, pave roads, provide a living for hundreds of thousands of people.......etc.

People want to smoke because they can. Just like people wanting to drink alcohol.


F R E E E E E E D O M
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Jun 22, 2008 11:27 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Portiea
PortieaPortieaKonstanz, Baden-Wuerttemberg Germany93 Threads 11 Polls 4,000 Posts
reelman90: Banning smoking or making cigarettes illegal would throw the US economy into a deep depression. No ifs, ands or butts!

What about all the tax dollars from tobacco sales that is used to fund schools, pave roads, provide a living for hundreds of thousands of people.......etc.

People want to smoke because they can. Just like people wanting to drink alcohol.F R E E E E E E D O M


Hi reelmanwave I think we could make a lot of money too if we legalized heroine, cocaine, mary jane, etc. Why not? The economy needs a boost and that would probably be just the ticket. End a lot of crime too. Cool.thumbs up
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Jun 22, 2008 11:43 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
I think smoking should be banned in government buildings, malls, public transportation, etc.. The key word here being public.

But for the governement to dictate what a person does with their privately owned business is a bit much. Why should someone who owns a bar be forced to either allow or disallow smoking on their property? Same holds true for other privately owned establishments and certainly privately owned homes.
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Jun 22, 2008 11:52 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Robertm80
Robertm80Robertm80Vista, California USA35 Posts
I'd say: Building owners choose in their building (if you don't like it either way, don't go to said building).
What it really boils down to is respect for others. Whether it's tobacco, a big truck, or any other fume, smell, noise, etc. you should at least consider other people around you before you indulge. Yeah... the big vehicle exhaust fumes (or beater exhaust fumes) might be tough to fix for some people. Understandable. What isn't is when you choose to light up, or be rude to others for no reason when you can just wait a bit and then indulge yourself in private or around friends who feel the same way as you.
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Jun 22, 2008 11:55 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Robertm80
Robertm80Robertm80Vista, California USA35 Posts
Portiea: Hi reelman I think we could make a lot of money too if we legalized heroine, cocaine, mary jane, etc. Why not? The economy needs a boost and that would probably be just the ticket. End a lot of crime too. Cool.


Why not: Because the percentage of people influenced by most of the "illegal" drugs are more likely to commit a crime (a vast increase above normal) even without needing money to pay for their habit. Yes... keeping them illegal causes some problems with a handful of people, but making them legal would cause more problems with crime than it would solve (In my opinion).
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Jun 22, 2008 11:58 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
reelman90
reelman90reelman90Richmond, Kentucky USA3 Threads 387 Posts
Portiea: Hi reelman I think we could make a lot of money too if we legalized heroine, cocaine, mary jane, etc. Why not? The economy needs a boost and that would probably be just the ticket. End a lot of crime too. Cool.


I don't have a problem with potheads and Mary Jane. Only would increase the profits for McDonalds. A lot of people complain about pot, but when was the last time you saw a crime report where a person smoked a joint and robbed someone, killed someone or anything of the sorts. The only thing I've seen potheads do is spend $20 bucks at Micky Ds.

As for heroine and cocaine, creates too much of a danger for others. These are severe mind altering drugs. If all people were responsible in the drug use of any form and did not hurt others, I would't have a problem with any of it.
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Jun 23, 2008 12:09 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
You left off perfumes and all body products with fragrances. Many people are severely allergic!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 23, 2008 12:09 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Robertm80: Yeah... someone here is definately anti-religious. I get that you feel that way about this topic, like it's a religious witch hunt. However, I can't appreciate the idea that a few nuts define an entire group of people. This isn't true of religious people any more than it is of gun owners or car owners who drink. So while you are welcome to your generalizations based on extremists I'll kindly not partake of the same. Have a nice day, and I hope someone does something nice for you (they'd probably be religious).


they might be a follower but hopefully not religious

religiosity is not pleasing
not effective
and not suggested

the good samaritan was the only 'non religious person' that came by

dont stand around with a prayer box on your head

religion never did a good thing for anybody

He said so Himself

however a relationship can change everything

and besides bein smarmy to a stranger is hardly a nice example


doh


welcome to CS tho

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Jun 23, 2008 12:11 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
WhatUwish4: You left off perfumes and all body products with fragrances. Many people are severely allergic!


thats why i dont wear any
<<<considerate nerd

i have some of my fave perfume my son got me
he is old now he can afford it
its what he remembers me smelling like when he was little
i only wear it when i go to his house

dunno


we are just becoming more intolerant of each other
how will this progress things constructively? it wont.

on a world scale i mean
CS is just- a microcosm


peace
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Jun 23, 2008 12:23 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Robertm80
Robertm80Robertm80Vista, California USA35 Posts
mindfful: they might be a follower but hopefully not religious

religiosity is not pleasing
not effective
and not suggested

the good samaritan was the only 'non religious person' that came by

dont stand around with a prayer box on your head

religion never did a good thing for anybody

He said so Himself

however a relationship can change everything

and besides bein smarmy to a stranger is hardly a nice example welcome to CS tho


rolling on the floor laughing True, about many things... but religion did do good things for people. (Hospitals are actually an invention of religion, for example). However, I will agree that most religion as it is followed is far from beneficial. I'm personally a much greater believer in simple kindness and caring than any organized following. However, I also do know of several religious groups that are not evil, mean, threatening, or dangerous to others around them. So yes, religion is not a good thing in and of itself (but neither is it a bad thing in and of itself)... that aspect of something in our world tends to come from the people involved. Guess that leaves it as a sad reflection on us all.
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Jun 23, 2008 12:24 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Robertm80
Robertm80Robertm80Vista, California USA35 Posts
Oh, and thanks for the welcome!!wave
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Jun 23, 2008 12:45 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Random_Stranger
Random_StrangerRandom_StrangerMade IN, California USA31 Threads 1,183 Posts
Robertm80: Yeah... someone here is definately anti-religious. I get that you feel that way about this topic, like it's a religious witch hunt. However, I can't appreciate the idea that a few nuts define an entire group of people. This isn't true of religious people any more than it is of gun owners or car owners who drink. So while you are welcome to your generalizations based on extremists I'll kindly not partake of the same. Have a nice day, and I hope someone does something nice for you (they'd probably be religious).



Actually you are wrong. I am religious, but by religious I am not a fanatic. I admit that I do possess my own ideals. However by religious, do you mean believe in God? Of course I do. In fact I am a born again Christian. Do I agree with other Christians? No. Although whatever other people do is of no concern of mine, unless it is my own children (that I will own day have... hopefully) and I am trying to protect them. Because as a man, I would be responsible for my own household.

Try to take a joke and laugh at things, you will live longer, I promise you.

wine
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Jun 23, 2008 12:52 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Robertm80
Robertm80Robertm80Vista, California USA35 Posts
Random_Stranger: Actually you are wrong. I am religious, but by religious I am not a fanatic. I admit that I do possess my own ideals. However by religious, do you mean believe in God? Of course I do. In fact I am a born again Christian. Do I agree with other Christians? No. Although whatever other people do is of no concern of mine, unless it is my own children (that I will own day have... hopefully) and I am trying to protect them. Because as a man, I would be responsible for my own household.

Try to take a joke and laugh at things, you will live longer, I promise you.


Hmm... sorry. Just that I see that idea a lot around, and I really don't find it funny. However, I do enjoy a lot of humor... just certain things don't strike me as funny.
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