there are some clubs(private lodges, really) that still allow smoking. At least here in Florida. I am surprised when a person sits down at a table with people smoking, then ask if we could please not smokeat the table, as they do not like smoke!!
If I am at a table with non-smokers, I will of course leave to light up . I limit myself to one a night, anyway!
But don't sit a a table with people smoking, then ask them to put it out
The idea of banning smoking in public buildings is a good one, and I agree with it....... however, I feel that public buildings where smoking should be banned should be "essential" public buildings..... that is, buildings that are essential for us to conduct daily life....... that means all government buildings, or publically owned buildings such as bus stations, court houses, utility services etc. etc.....and privately owned establishments "essential" to the public such as grocery stores, medical offices, etc etc.....I will go out on a limb here and include restaurants as well.......although restaurants aren't necessarily "essential"...... Bars, pubs, taverns, etc..... are not essential establishments, and for all time have been associated with smoking...... they should be left to the discretion of their owners when choosing to allow smoking or not.....A case can be argued for discimination against persons wanting to work in theses establishments as non smokers, and have to subject themselves to the risks... to that I say, fine, if you want to work at such an establishment and need to shield yourself from the risk, than the owner can provide you an OSHA certified respirator..... As long as the worker is shielded from risk, there should be no arguement.......and as far as patrons go.... a drinking establishment is not a necessity, so if you dont like the risks, dont go there......
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
letitroll: I dont smoke.............never have.........
The idea of banning smoking in public buildings is a good one, and I agree with it....... however, I feel that public buildings where smoking should be banned should be "essential" public buildings..... that is, buildings that are essential for us to conduct daily life....... that means all government buildings, or publically owned buildings such as bus stations, court houses, utility services etc. etc.....and privately owned establishments "essential" to the public such as grocery stores, medical offices, etc etc.....I will go out on a limb here and include restaurants as well.......although restaurants aren't necessarily "essential"...... Bars, pubs, taverns, etc..... are not essential establishments, and for all time have been associated with smoking...... they should be left to the discretion of their owners when choosing to allow smoking or not.....A case can be argued for discimination against persons wanting to work in theses establishments as non smokers, and have to subject themselves to the risks... to that I say, fine, if you want to work at such an establishment and need to shield yourself from the risk, than the owner can provide you an OSHA certified respirator..... As long as the worker is shielded from risk, there should be no arguement.......and as far as patrons go.... a drinking establishment is not a necessity, so if you dont like the risks, dont go there......
Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anyway
kissmedeeply: Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anyway
Its the same here in Arizona........I agree with it, but not for bars.... they are non essential establishments for the general public..... My stand is actually more based on the idea of government determining what can or can not impose on a private business..... I dont agree with it...... The fact that grocery stores, hospitals, and all places where the public "needs" to go to conduct daily life should be included in the ban gets my yes vote...... but why bars and nightclubs?
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
letitroll: Its the same here in Arizona........I agree with it, but not for bars.... they are non essential establishments for the general public..... My stand is actually more based on the idea of government determining what can or can not impose on a private business..... I dont agree with it...... The fact that grocery stores, hospitals, and all places where the public "needs" to go to conduct daily life should be included in the ban gets my yes vote...... but why bars and nightclubs?
Me i couldnt answer that...but i am just glad i dont smoke or my children..They cant stand it..and personally when i walk up town i see people smoking right there by the buildings and it makes me sick...
I know alot of smokers will jump me on this..but i have allergies many of them...and they have to know that cig..smoke can make one very very ill...
kissmedeeply: Me i couldnt answer that...but i am just glad i dont smoke or my children..They cant stand it..and personally when i walk up town i see people smoking right there by the buildings and it makes me sick...
I know alot of smokers will jump me on this..but i have allergies many of them...and they have to know that cig..smoke can make one very very ill...
with all respect...you can hardly expect people to cater to everyones allergies
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
kissmedeeply: claire claire Claire
I love ya girl..just being me
haha which bit are you wagging your finger at?.. me being a smoker? .. I HATE being a smoker. I am planning on stopping in the not too distant future. So LOOK OUT!... thats going to be like me with PMS x 1000
kissmedeeply: Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anyway
Nor taxi's, on the bus, in vehicles used for work, example, delivery trucks, ... a group is trying to ban smoking in a car with a child under 16 yrs old.
Jun 21, 2008 12:18 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
dillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads2,697 Posts
dillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK2,697 posts
skwidwurd: is it just me who thinks non smokers are always quick to point the finger at those who do smoke? surely exhaust smoke and fumes are far more harmful than the odd whiff of someone elses ciggy but it's ok for the non smoker to jump in their 4x4 (no, i'm not suggesting every non smoker has a 4x4) and spew their toxins into the atmosphere. am i alone in thinking the smoker gets a pretty raw deal?
What gets me is alcohol is more dangerous and the cause of more crimes than having a smoke .
i mean you dont see me having 1 too many smokes and getting in to a fight or ending up in jail for the weekend .you dont hear in the papers "man killed by smoking driver"
sort out the priorities and get a ban on alcohol first then target the smokers .
kissmedeeply: My opinion they should banned making cigarettes.. You can attack me if you want...but i know people who never smoke a day in their life...and they died of second hand smoke
the goverments are makiing a lot of money on taxes they will never ban production
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
dillydally: What gets me is alcohol is more dangerous and the cause of more crimes than having a smoke . i mean you dont see me having 1 too many smokes and getting in to a fight or ending up in jail for the weekend .you dont hear in the papers "man killed by smoking driver"
sort out the priorities and get a ban on alcohol first then target the smokers .
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
KHD100: Nor taxi's, on the bus, in vehicles used for work, example, delivery trucks, ... a group is trying to ban smoking in a car with a child under 16 yrs old.
Yes and i agree..but its so funny how i am getting attacked becos i am against it...
I will continue to say banned it everywhere...We as non-smokers have a right to live a smoke free world...
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If I am at a table with non-smokers, I will of course leave to light up . I limit myself to one a night, anyway!
But don't sit a a table with people smoking, then ask them to put it out