Smoking should be banned in all public places ( Archived) (261)

Jun 21, 2008 9:41 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
there are some clubs(private lodges, really) that still allow smoking. At least here in Florida. I am surprised when a person sits down at a table with people smoking, then ask if we could please not smokeat the table, as they do not like smoke!!

If I am at a table with non-smokers, I will of course leave to light up . I limit myself to one a night, anyway!

But don't sit a a table with people smoking, then ask them to put it outfrustrated
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Jun 21, 2008 9:55 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
djerba
djerbadjerbaKenilworth, Western Cape South Africa10 Threads 45 Posts
rwantin: I smoke. I don't like to smoke around those that don't, and make it a point not to. Simple, really.
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Jun 21, 2008 11:55 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
letitroll
letitrollletitrollphoenix, Arizona USA19 Threads 371 Posts
I dont smoke.............never have.........

The idea of banning smoking in public buildings is a good one, and I agree with it....... however, I feel that public buildings where smoking should be banned should be "essential" public buildings..... that is, buildings that are essential for us to conduct daily life....... that means all government buildings, or publically owned buildings such as bus stations, court houses, utility services etc. etc.....and privately owned establishments "essential" to the public such as grocery stores, medical offices, etc etc.....I will go out on a limb here and include restaurants as well.......although restaurants aren't necessarily "essential"......
Bars, pubs, taverns, etc..... are not essential establishments, and for all time have been associated with smoking...... they should be left to the discretion of their owners when choosing to allow smoking or not.....A case can be argued for discimination against persons wanting to work in theses establishments as non smokers, and have to subject themselves to the risks... to that I say, fine, if you want to work at such an establishment and need to shield yourself from the risk, than the owner can provide you an OSHA certified respirator.....
As long as the worker is shielded from risk, there should be no arguement.......and as far as patrons go.... a drinking establishment is not a necessity, so if you dont like the risks, dont go there......
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Jun 21, 2008 11:58 AM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
letitroll: I dont smoke.............never have.........

The idea of banning smoking in public buildings is a good one, and I agree with it....... however, I feel that public buildings where smoking should be banned should be "essential" public buildings..... that is, buildings that are essential for us to conduct daily life....... that means all government buildings, or publically owned buildings such as bus stations, court houses, utility services etc. etc.....and privately owned establishments "essential" to the public such as grocery stores, medical offices, etc etc.....I will go out on a limb here and include restaurants as well.......although restaurants aren't necessarily "essential"......
Bars, pubs, taverns, etc..... are not essential establishments, and for all time have been associated with smoking...... they should be left to the discretion of their owners when choosing to allow smoking or not.....A case can be argued for discimination against persons wanting to work in theses establishments as non smokers, and have to subject themselves to the risks... to that I say, fine, if you want to work at such an establishment and need to shield yourself from the risk, than the owner can provide you an OSHA certified respirator.....
As long as the worker is shielded from risk, there should be no arguement.......and as far as patrons go.... a drinking establishment is not a necessity, so if you dont like the risks, dont go there......

Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anywaywave
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Jun 21, 2008 12:10 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
letitroll
letitrollletitrollphoenix, Arizona USA19 Threads 371 Posts
kissmedeeply: Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anyway


Its the same here in Arizona........I agree with it, but not for bars.... they are non essential establishments for the general public.....
My stand is actually more based on the idea of government determining what can or can not impose on a private business..... I dont agree with it...... The fact that grocery stores, hospitals, and all places where the public "needs" to go to conduct daily life should be included in the ban gets my yes vote...... but why bars and nightclubs?
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Jun 21, 2008 12:11 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
letitroll
letitrollletitrollphoenix, Arizona USA19 Threads 371 Posts
kissmedeeply: Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anyway


wave
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Jun 21, 2008 12:12 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
letitroll: Its the same here in Arizona........I agree with it, but not for bars.... they are non essential establishments for the general public.....
My stand is actually more based on the idea of government determining what can or can not impose on a private business..... I dont agree with it...... The fact that grocery stores, hospitals, and all places where the public "needs" to go to conduct daily life should be included in the ban gets my yes vote...... but why bars and nightclubs?
Me i couldnt answer that...but i am just glad i dont smoke or my children..They cant stand it..and personally when i walk up town i see people smoking right there by the buildings and it makes me sick...

I know alot of smokers will jump me on this..but i have allergies many of them...and they have to know that cig..smoke can make one very very ill...
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Jun 21, 2008 12:15 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
Well I do smoke.. but I have to say I agree with banning smoking in all public places (like here in the UK)..
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Jun 21, 2008 12:15 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
kissmedeeply: Me i couldnt answer that...but i am just glad i dont smoke or my children..They cant stand it..and personally when i walk up town i see people smoking right there by the buildings and it makes me sick...

I know alot of smokers will jump me on this..but i have allergies many of them...and they have to know that cig..smoke can make one very very ill...





with all respect...you can hardly expect people to cater to everyones allergieshandshake
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Jun 21, 2008 12:16 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
Claayer: Well I do smoke.. but I have to say I agree with banning smoking in all public places (like here in the UK)..
claire claire Clairescold

I love ya girl..just being meroll eyes
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Jun 21, 2008 12:17 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
shipoker55: with all respect...you can hardly expect people to cater to everyones allergies
NOt expecting them too..Just telling you its not all about just against smoking..there are more serious issues with smoking
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Jun 21, 2008 12:17 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
kissmedeeply: claire claire Claire

I love ya girl..just being me


haha which bit are you wagging your finger at?.. me being a smoker? .. I HATE being a smoker. I am planning on stopping in the not too distant future. So LOOK OUT!... thats going to be like me with PMS x 1000 laugh devil


hug
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Jun 21, 2008 12:18 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
kissmedeeply: Here in Canada..you cannot smoke in hospitals..restarurants..clubs..bars..grocery stores and so on...Well here in NB anyway


Nor taxi's, on the bus, in vehicles used for work, example, delivery trucks, ... a group is trying to ban smoking in a car with a child under 16 yrs old.
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Jun 21, 2008 12:18 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
I like the public places I go to being smoke free.. laugh

weird isn't it.. (for a smoker lol)
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Jun 21, 2008 12:18 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
skwidwurd: is it just me who thinks non smokers are always quick to point the finger at those who do smoke? surely exhaust smoke and fumes are far more harmful than the odd whiff of someone elses ciggy but it's ok for the non smoker to jump in their 4x4 (no, i'm not suggesting every non smoker has a 4x4) and spew their toxins into the atmosphere. am i alone in thinking the smoker gets a pretty raw deal?










thumbs up What gets me is alcohol is more dangerous and the cause of more crimes than having a smoke .

i mean you dont see me having 1 too many smokes and getting in to a fight or ending up in jail for the weekend .you dont hear in the papers "man killed by smoking driver"

sort out the priorities and get a ban on alcohol first then target the smokers .
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Jun 21, 2008 12:19 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
alex_192
alex_192alex_192sarasota, USA38 Threads 1,271 Posts
kissmedeeply: My opinion they should banned making cigarettes..
You can attack me if you want...but i know people who never smoke a day in their life...and they died of second hand smoke



the goverments are makiing a lot of money on taxes
they will never ban production
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Jun 21, 2008 12:20 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
dillydally: What gets me is alcohol is more dangerous and the cause of more crimes than having a smoke .

i mean you dont see me having 1 too many smokes and getting in to a fight or ending up in jail for the weekend .you dont hear in the papers "man killed by smoking driver"


sort out the priorities and get a ban on alcohol first then target the smokers .


hahaha giggle
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Jun 21, 2008 12:21 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
alex_192: the goverments are makiing a lot of money on taxes
they will never ban production

Hello i know that..just giving my opinion...
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Jun 21, 2008 12:22 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
KHD100: Nor taxi's, on the bus, in vehicles used for work, example, delivery trucks, ... a group is trying to ban smoking in a car with a child under 16 yrs old.
Yes and i agree..but its so funny how i am getting attacked becos i am against it...

I will continue to say banned it everywhere...We as non-smokers have a right to live a smoke free world...
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Jun 21, 2008 12:23 PM CST Smoking should be banned in all public places
dillydally
dillydallydillydallyBehind the hills and Burns ..., Strathclyde, Scotland UK57 Threads 2,697 Posts
Claayer: hahaha


in a sick and weird way ................i laughed at this too laugh
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