More gun control in the USA (111)
Babettefr: They give the impression that they are good in controlling other nations but they're too weak to implement rules that is judged as imperative in the global standard.. to their own safety in society/protection of innocent victims.
I am of course talking of rules controlling..not banning..
Conrad73: The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and 'is excepted out of the general powers of government. 'A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power.
Texas Court Decision Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
Nowhere else in the Constitution does a 'right' attributed to 'the people' refer to anything other than an individual right. What is more,
in all six other provisions of the Constitution that mention 'the people,' the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset... The Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms... The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it 'shall not be infringed.' Justice Antonin Scalia (b. 1936) District of Columbia v. Heller, June 26, 2008
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But to ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow. ... For society does not control crime, ever, by
forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by orcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.
Jeff Snyder, Washington Times, August 25, 1994
Texas Court Decision Cockrum v. State, 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)]
Nowhere else in the Constitution does a 'right' attributed to 'the people' refer to anything other than an individual right. What is more,
in all six other provisions of the Constitution that mention 'the people,' the term unambiguously refers to all members of the political community, not an unspecified subset... The Second Amendment extends, prima facie, to all instruments that constitute bearable arms... The very text of the Second Amendment implicitly recognizes the pre-existence of the right and declares only that it 'shall not be infringed.' Justice Antonin Scalia (b. 1936) District of Columbia v. Heller, June 26, 2008
<<<
But to ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law will permit them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow. ... For society does not control crime, ever, by
forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of criminals. Society controls crime by orcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.
Jeff Snyder, Washington Times, August 25, 1994
Your totally correct Conrad, Most of these other individuals have no idea what the 2nd Amendment is all about. It was written into Our U.S. Constitution in the 2nd position as the 2nd most important issue to keep the new nation free from the persecution of tyrants such as King Gorg! My Grand father is a distant relative of King Gorg [the original German spelling with two dots over the (o)umlaut] of King George of England as it was later changed due to the ease of pronunciation. I watched very closely during Prince Charles Wedding to Diana and his extreme last name was indeed Gorg with the umlaut over the (o).
The Second Amendment was indeed meant so the Patriotic Citizens could Keep and Bear Arms to form unregulated Militia's to keep Our U.S.A. free from the tyranny of a corrupt government and these current times
are only a hairs breath away from that need!
It's only fools and the despots who manipulate them that say no-one should have any guns or any kind of real fire power to prevent being tyrannized! Even the Sheriffs's in various high crime location of the U.S. are telling the Citizens to arm themselves and become proficient with their weapons to protect themselves as they know they can't be everywhere at once. The oBummer administration and radical muslims, whom he backs are another major threat in the U.S. I live in a fairly rural part of California and most everyone has guns and we all target practice from time to time and serious crime is non-existent due to the gun owners.
The only gun control needed by responsible patriotic citizens is their control and proficiency of their weapons along with clear un-manipulated thinking by despots.
The thinking Patriotic Citizens of the U.S.A. darn well know this!
rizlared: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!
what about high level of death by obesity, what about traffic accidents
sniga: what about high level of death by obesity, what about traffic accidents
ok, im from europe, i dont have right to speek..
but overcontrolling can be depressing
sniga: ok, im from europe, i dont have right to speek..
but overcontrolling can be depressing
but overcontrolling can be depressing
Really, everyone has a right to speak here
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Gun control is when you can put a bullet through the same hole you put the first bullet through. We don't need gun control, we need more fathers to take their sons out hunting so they can see what a bullet really does to flesh. I can guarantee you deaths by guns would plummet!
amy schumer - the gun show
purr4mance: amy schumer - the gun show
Amy Schumer sold almost 176,000 hand guns during this 3 minute segment 
What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
OMG.. 
F-en guillotines against militias with assault rifles..
F-en guillotines against militias with assault rifles..
LeanybeanUK: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
LeanybeanUK: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
Are you for real?????
Maybe you could post some links to this tripe so we can see exactly where you get this absurd nonsense?
Have you ever even been to the US? I seriously doubt it. I find it ironic that so many people from other parts of the world seem to think they know all there is to know about another country and they have never even set foot in said country.
Maybe all you gun worshipers can answer a simple yes or no question.
Should criminals and mentally unhinged people be allowed to own a gun?
I have been waiting about 2 years for one of you to answer this question.
ooby_dooby: Are you for real?????
Maybe you could post some links to this tripe so we can see exactly where you get this absurd nonsense?
Have you ever even been to the US? I seriously doubt it. I find it ironic that so many people from other parts of the world seem to think they know all there is to know about another country and they have never even set foot in said country.
Maybe all you gun worshipers can answer a simple yes or no question.
Should criminals and mentally unhinged people be allowed to own a gun?
I have been waiting about 2 years for one of you to answer this question.
Maybe you could post some links to this tripe so we can see exactly where you get this absurd nonsense?
Have you ever even been to the US? I seriously doubt it. I find it ironic that so many people from other parts of the world seem to think they know all there is to know about another country and they have never even set foot in said country.
Maybe all you gun worshipers can answer a simple yes or no question.
Should criminals and mentally unhinged people be allowed to own a gun?
I have been waiting about 2 years for one of you to answer this question.
I'm not a gun worshipper, but, yes, I do believe that criminals and democrats should not be allowed to own or hire guns.
galrads: I'm not a gun worshipper, but, yes, I do believe that criminals and democrats should not be allowed to own or hire guns.
Don't worry Galrads, you'll still be able to own or hire an assault rifle, though not sell to just anyone you want, family, neighbors, 'friends'..
bohemianjack: Don't worry Galrads, you'll still be able to own or hire an assault rifle, though not sell to just anyone you want, family, neighbors, 'friends'..
:hmm: not worried, I don't own and I don't want an assault rifle.
pedalguy59: You know you are preaching to the choir right? Evidently an
amendment in a constitution(that states militia), is the same
as words from God.
amen,forefathers knew this day would come,like in 1775/76,then 1812,dont take ur rights n freedom 4 granted,as DC dems,etc.become more muslim converts,give us trump n freedom!liberty or death,not taught in schools anymore/commoncore n nanny state libs,only 3 countrys not in world bank/rip off,cuba iran n n.korea,4 CFR/NWO!HOLD OUT LIL 3!amendment in a constitution(that states militia), is the same
as words from God.
DavidScps: Your totally correct Conrad, Most of these other individuals have no idea what the 2nd Amendment is all about. It was written into Our U.S. Constitution in the 2nd position as the 2nd most important issue to keep the new nation free from the persecution of tyrants such as King Gorg! My Grand father is a distant relative of King Gorg [the original German spelling with two dots over the (o)umlaut] of King George of England as it was later changed due to the ease of pronunciation. I watched very closely during Prince Charles Wedding to Diana and his extreme last name was indeed Gorg with the umlaut over the (o).
The Second Amendment was indeed meant so the Patriotic Citizens could Keep and Bear Arms to form unregulated Militia's to keep Our U.S.A. free from the tyranny of a corrupt government and these current times
are only a hairs breath away from that need!
It's only fools and the despots who manipulate them that say no-one should have any guns or any kind of real fire power to prevent being tyrannized! Even the Sheriffs's in various high crime location of the U.S. are telling the Citizens to arm themselves and become proficient with their weapons to protect themselves as they know they can't be everywhere at once. The oBummer administration and radical muslims, whom he backs are another major threat in the U.S. I live in a fairly rural part of California and most everyone has guns and we all target practice from time to time and serious crime is non-existent due to the gun owners.
The only gun control needed by responsible patriotic citizens is their control and proficiency of their weapons along with clear un-manipulated thinking by despots.
The thinking Patriotic Citizens of the U.S.A. darn well know this!
amen.The Second Amendment was indeed meant so the Patriotic Citizens could Keep and Bear Arms to form unregulated Militia's to keep Our U.S.A. free from the tyranny of a corrupt government and these current times
are only a hairs breath away from that need!
It's only fools and the despots who manipulate them that say no-one should have any guns or any kind of real fire power to prevent being tyrannized! Even the Sheriffs's in various high crime location of the U.S. are telling the Citizens to arm themselves and become proficient with their weapons to protect themselves as they know they can't be everywhere at once. The oBummer administration and radical muslims, whom he backs are another major threat in the U.S. I live in a fairly rural part of California and most everyone has guns and we all target practice from time to time and serious crime is non-existent due to the gun owners.
The only gun control needed by responsible patriotic citizens is their control and proficiency of their weapons along with clear un-manipulated thinking by despots.
The thinking Patriotic Citizens of the U.S.A. darn well know this!
ooby_dooby: Are you for real?????
Maybe you could post some links to this tripe so we can see exactly where you get this absurd nonsense?
Have you ever even been to the US? I seriously doubt it. I find it ironic that so many people from other parts of the world seem to think they know all there is to know about another country and they have never even set foot in said country.
Maybe all you gun worshipers can answer a simple yes or no question.
Should criminals and mentally unhinged people be allowed to own a gun?
I have been waiting about 2 years for one of you to answer this question.
Maybe you could post some links to this tripe so we can see exactly where you get this absurd nonsense?
Have you ever even been to the US? I seriously doubt it. I find it ironic that so many people from other parts of the world seem to think they know all there is to know about another country and they have never even set foot in said country.
Maybe all you gun worshipers can answer a simple yes or no question.
Should criminals and mentally unhinged people be allowed to own a gun?
I have been waiting about 2 years for one of you to answer this question.
Do you honestly believe that criminals and "mentally unhinged people" really care if they're not allowed to own a gun? And are you of the mindset that should guns be banned (if just from criminals and your "mentally unhinged people"), that they will gladly forfeit their guns? You know the real answer here, surely.
Now here's a question for you; How many law-abiding citizens do you know, who own guns, are criminals? And you know the answer to that one too.
LeanybeanUK: What is wrong with gun control? Why do certain people equate regulations with removal? Common sense would say logical control is the sensible way forward, especially in a country with such a high level of death by guns!
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
Hi,
I´ll tell you what is wrong with gun control. Tyrants always want gun control so they can genocide their citizens. It has happened in Russia, Ukraine, and Cambodia. The Founding fathers in the US gave the people the right to keep and bear arms because they knew what was going on even back in 1789 when the US Constitution was written with its accompanying Bill of Rights.
They knew that the Illuminati had been established in 1776, and what the Illuminati stood for I surmise. George Washington even said, "We have given you the right to keep and bear arms to protect from an intruder, and even your own government."
That government now under Obama wants to take American´s guns so they will be able to do the same thing that Stalin did to Russians, and Pol Pot did to Cambodians. It is Obama´s No #1 goal.
Now do you get it? There are also 6,000 concentration camps in the United States of America, and the government has purchased 30,000 guillotines too. That´s 5 guillotines per concentration camp.
Since Australia passed the law 12 months ago denying Australian citizens of the right to keep and bear arms, crime, including armed robbery has risen as follows:
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 per cent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 per cent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 per cent (yes, 44 per cent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms
are now up 300 per cent. (Note that while the law-abiding
citizens turned them in, the criminals did not so the criminals
still possess their guns!)
Peace,
LeanybeanUK
@ post # 63... 
nice breakdown
nice breakdownstudecar: how many of you know what the 2nd half of the 2nd amendment is? why is it ignored?
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
2nd half ---)> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
5 dead in Florida airport with a gun that was checked on a plane. Guy retrieved it, loaded it up and then went on a rampage.
newinsouth: 5 dead in Florida airport with a gun that was checked on a plane. Guy retrieved it, loaded it up and then went on a rampage.
Can't blame the gun .... the nut using the gun could have used a bomb, a machete, a hammer etc
Here there's a gun control which is permitted to have weapons for hunting or personal defence. War class weapons are not allowed for personal issues.
GUZMAN1: Here there's a gun control which is permitted to have weapons for hunting or personal defence. War class weapons are not allowed for personal issues.
War class hand guns and rifles like sniper rifles, M1As, M14s, AKAs etc but only semi-auto versions. Full auto weapons are allowed under special permit (class iii I believe) but a class iii permit allows the BATF to enter your home at any time unannounced.
Guzman1
galrads: War class hand guns and rifles like sniper rifles, M1As, M14s, AKAs etc but only semi-auto versions. Full auto weapons are allowed under special permit (class iii I believe) but a class iii permit allows the BATF to enter your home at any time unannounced.
Guzman1
Guzman1
It looks enough control, isn't it?Here is compulsory a "psycho-technic test" before. A doctor warrants you're capable to have a weapon without danger to anyone else. Good vision, mentally sane. etc.
"Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy
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I am of course talking of rules controlling..not banning..