Can the family unit be saved ( Archived) (33)

Aug 28, 2017 7:33 AM CSTCan the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales, UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts

Can the family unit be saved(Vote Below)

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It's too late - feminists have ruined relations between men & women
44%
21 Votes
Maybe there is hope, but feminists need to be removed from powerful positions in society first
56%
27 Votes
48 Total Votes
Yes the family unit was once a wonderful thing and children grew up with both biological parents, but these day's single mothers dominate society and broken families are surrounding us all.

Are yes two parent families with a biological mother & father setting the example for the child growing up, but also the stability of that family unit, that teaches the child that relationships can be great, children prosper much greater with both parents in their lives, children have no issues with either gender, no abandonment issues and children know, that if they are going to have children, then they will make sure their family remains, a happy family unit, like they have learned from their parents and the process continues on to a stable family unit and a far more stable society

Do you want the family unit to matter again or will you just allow feminist to destroy what once was great?
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Aug 28, 2017 7:43 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
BunnyCastle
BunnyCastleBunnyCastleVerbitsky, Buenos Aires Argentina1 Threads 22 Posts
What an interesting subject.
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Aug 28, 2017 8:43 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Back in my day as a child the traditional family units existed cause I and my older siblings had been raised in one and the mother's remained home doing what a homemaker did back then and the fathers worked.

But through the years women and men became more focused on their careers.I have witnessed the breakdown of the traditional family unit and the effects it had.It seems to me that parents don't seem to focus on family as people once used to.


My late husband and I had raised our late son in a traditional household.
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Aug 28, 2017 8:50 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
OldeGuy
OldeGuyOldeGuyMuskegon, Michigan USA5 Threads 1 Polls 76 Posts
This family unit you describe in such glowing terms, only existed in B&W TV land shows like "Leave it to Beaver" and "Father Knows Best". Excuse me, it also exists in countless Trump promises to his base.
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Aug 28, 2017 8:53 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
Ccincy: Back in my day as a child the traditional family units existed cause I and my older siblings had been raised in one and the mother's remained home doing what a homemaker did back then and the fathers worked.

But through the years women and men became more focused on their careers.I have witnessed the breakdown of the traditional family unit and the effects it had.It seems to me that parents don't seem to focus on family as people once used to.


My late husband and I had raised our late son in a traditional household.


Dear CC, You taught your children about real family life, family values, importance of the family and you are special for thathandshake

Dear lady some flowers for youbouquet
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Aug 28, 2017 9:31 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
OldeGuy
OldeGuyOldeGuyMuskegon, Michigan USA5 Threads 1 Polls 76 Posts
IF you want to know the reality of American life down through time, I suggest you dive head first into the US census data. What these ten year snapshots of American life display is really quite reveling. I was the family historian for several years. On top of the census data, I had access to family journals reaching back in time.
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Aug 28, 2017 9:41 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
I witnessed the new order state of Single parent hood and in the UK it started in the late 1970's when Thatcher came to power and unfortunately since then women in many cases have forced it upon men by their obsssesion with it

Thatcher created the Yuppie state for the middle and upper classes based in and around London and the South East. -- It was deliberate policy to be divisive and sabotage this nation, due to selling off all our Nationalised assets to foreign & Global business, which in turn destroyed traditional jobs in the manufacturing Mining and engineering industries. The Tory mantra always was and still is to keep the weath gap wide use, the media against working folk and blame all trades unions even where there were no strikes in some companies in their hole existence and I know from seeing the evidence that he media were even bribed to ensure silence from the working people. That created parasite business and disenfranchised the majority of people and forced upon us the conditions where employers pay low wages impose poor working conditions Zero hours contracts and even pension theft by their creative accountancy in hiding profits and tax evasion via offshore accounts which was never vetoed by the City of London and House of Lords as they all had fingers in the pies.
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Aug 28, 2017 10:11 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
OldeGuy
OldeGuyOldeGuyMuskegon, Michigan USA5 Threads 1 Polls 76 Posts
Back in the day - the good old days - pregnant teenagers were not a problem. The second a young lady got knocked up a fellow teen, she was married off to a man who lost his wife in child birth or to an old guy in need of a care giver. Now tell me, please, how does that fit your model of perfect family life.
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Aug 28, 2017 10:19 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
OldeGuy: Back in the day - the good old days - pregnant teenagers were not a problem. The second a young lady got knocked up a fellow teen, she was married off to a man who lost his wife in child birth or to an old guy in need of a care giver. Now tell me, please, how does that fit your model of perfect family life.


That is a muslim custom to marry women off and not a western custom...Lies don't get promoted on my threadsscold
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Aug 28, 2017 10:28 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
This posts are never feminists or mangina freerolling on the floor laughing

I do feel sorry for those brainwashed dronesliar no I don'ttongue
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Aug 28, 2017 12:49 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
sergio09
sergio09sergio09Knoxville, Tennessee USA31 Threads 901 Posts
The poll suggests that the only problems with maintaining the "family unit" are with the feminist. How juvenile and closed minded! mumbling
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Aug 28, 2017 1:14 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
sergio09: The poll suggests that the only problems with maintaining the "family unit" are with the feminist. How juvenile and closed minded!


No mangina it is fact that feminist destroyed the family unit and tried to turn women against white masculine men, feminism promotes single mothers and broken familesdoh
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Aug 28, 2017 1:16 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
"The family unit," is pc speech for... there's no such thing as a family anymore.
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Aug 28, 2017 2:17 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
The things which hold people together in life are not necessarily nice things. Misery and tragedy for example. In the good old days people left the front door open because they had nothing worth stealing, and couples stayed together because life was beyond boring. Living was to be endured and baby boomers ruined it with their selfish quality of life.
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Aug 28, 2017 10:15 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
Family should gather round the cracker barrel everday and dance!banana head banger
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Aug 29, 2017 2:36 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
raphael119: Family should gather round the cracker barrel everday and dance!


That is class divisional snobbery laugh
- Dancing is not easy on one leg or in wheelchairs unless one lives in a mansion thumbs down cheers
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Aug 29, 2017 11:36 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
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Aug 29, 2017 4:33 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
R_U_the_1_4_me
R_U_the_1_4_meR_U_the_1_4_meBuffalo, New York USA181 Posts
NOPE! Now you nave kids growing up and the don't know what gender they are or even where to pee or what restroom to use!
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Aug 29, 2017 5:52 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
R_U_the_1_4_me: NOPE! Now you nave kids growing up and the don't know what gender they are or even where to pee or what restroom to use!


Yes indeed single parent familes would produce those kind of results in children and Unfamiliarities of their own gender, especially a boy being brought up by a single mother, who kept that boy away from his father and taught him that men were oppressors, men were selfish, men can't be trusted, men are bad etc, that would indeed leave a child feeling shame for being male

Some serious damage has been done to society and young masculine white male boys suffer badly
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Aug 29, 2017 6:13 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
The first time I heard the phrase "family unit," was when my gf told me that the woman she babysat for, was divorcing her husband, and she was moving in with the woman, so that the woman, her daughter, and my gf could be "a family unit."
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Aug 30, 2017 12:27 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
rainbowdream2017: External influences in collective brain washing propaganda can be a demaging factor but no one can take away personal choices and responsibilities.


I agree - That works fine as long as in a single parent family the kids have been allowed contact with their father.
and not brought up to hate and be hostile to ALL men, and / Or confused, like some I and a couple of colleagues have all taught in training schools and at work. --- The schools Try but sorting out mental attitudes at a school is not really within their remit although I have to say, there are still SOME teachers who try.

Single parents are not advised to keep the child in check until they have been lectured by the headteacher or Police if & when they commit a crime here. --- I found it difficult but fortunate in that I have dealt with more kids who have had advice from their piers & friends with a more responsible Mother, Father, and even Aunts and Uncles to guide them. When they are outside school they reign back on hostility and accept that Learning hands on disciplines applied within crafts & other skills can let them become talented and responsible adults.
They even make friends in the groups as they learn to work as a team.--- A colleague and I have had some success in that direction where several of our students (we call them regardless of age grade or level) have gone on to join the Services.
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Aug 30, 2017 1:04 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
such frustration.
so much is being pulled in.

for one there became a division into what a man does and a woman does.
I do refer a bit to Maslov here, we went up in what we were seeking due to the evolution in society.
Saying: making money became less important. considering feelings became more important. It happens to be that most women were doing that feeling part for children, men normally weren't raised to bother.
We now have a society were men are seen as inferior toward raising children. (the emotional bit)
And i can't say that is utter bull.
And the women now make their own income, by themselves or by government sponsorship or legal-forced sponsorship.

The only women i know to work full time and raise fulltime is where there is no man to pay. otherwise it is always part time or no job.
I do agree that money can come from anywhere and can be given. and emotional bound is a quite personal thing.

The family unit is something you define yourself.
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Aug 30, 2017 1:27 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 1,555 Posts
Remember history and then figure it out...if women were treated properly in the first place...as equals...not abused physically, emotionally or financially...maybe the family unit would have stayed intact...but you cannot force that ideal on people...

I would hope that children have the opportunity to see both parents and that they would get along even if they are no longer a couple...putting differences aside for the sake of their children...

The good side of a collective culture...children are seen as assets...the elderly are looked after...

The individualistic western culture has certain freedoms we enjoy...we can go our own way and challenge certain old school thinking...

We reap wnat we sow...be kind and respectful and I am sure that will help you maintain your "family unit"...


Cheers




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Aug 30, 2017 5:46 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
BornTwice
BornTwiceBornTwiceedgewood, Kentucky USA1 Threads 1 Polls 10 Posts
Strong traditional "family" is the backbone of any healthy society. The breakdown of fixed moral values begins and ends with the destruction of the "family". The results are predictable and societies will continue to decay as the "love of many grows cold"...
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Aug 30, 2017 5:49 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
BornTwice
BornTwiceBornTwiceedgewood, Kentucky USA1 Threads 1 Polls 10 Posts
It doesn't fit because you are using the "fallacy of anomaly". Using the exception to make a rule.
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Aug 30, 2017 6:19 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
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Aug 30, 2017 7:56 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
Just to be clear I have not voted either way on the pole yet, so we will discover in time what people thinkwink

Feminists will continue to live in denial, that they are infact the one's, who pushed for the destruction of the family unit and they have done that for financial gain.

You have seen it happen a lot women using children as pawns to manipulate courts and take away fathers rights, the child is not considered in all of this and both the child and father suffer.

Sensible men won't get involved with modern western women, because they know how the laws work to favour women and take away from men, So father's for justice comes along, men's rights comes along and MGTOW comes along to help men avoid injustice and help men see the truth.

Non feminist women still benefit from the double standards and laws to favour women, so I can't see them not taking advantage either.

THERE HAS TO BE A WHOLE SYSTEMATIC CHANGE IN WESTERN SOCIETY FOR THE FAMILY UNIT TO BE SAVED FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS, BUT IT IS SUCH A VERY LONG WAY FROM HAPPENING.

WHILE FEMINIST STILL EXIST, UNLESS PEOPLE START OPPOSING FEMINISM, THEN SOCIETY WILL CONTINUE TO DECLINE AND MORE WHITE MEN WILL BEGIN TO FADE AWAY AND ISLAMIC MEN WILL RULE THE WEST.

THINK VERY CAREFULLY WHEN YOU PROMOTE SHARIA LAW AND ISLAM, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROMOTING OPPRESSION OF WOMEN, EVIL BARBARIC BEHAVIUORS AND HATRED OF WHITES, SO THIS IDIOTIC MINDSET NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY AND STAMPED OUT COMPLETLY

very mad
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Aug 31, 2017 10:59 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
arpito
arpitoarpitoBudapest, Northern Hungary Hungary9 Posts
"single mothers dominate society and broken families are surrounding us all."

-Disagree. Broken and single parent families are not primarily due to feminists but a liberalization of attitudes to relationships.


"Do you want the family unit to matter again or will you just allow feminist to destroy what once was great?"

- just like the poll, this question is loaded with the suppositions and not allowing for other options. I smile because the original posting is really a bit of a propaganda piece, anyone can see. Feminism, i.e. organized anti male behavior by females is largely a problem in Western society. The family unit is NOT getting destroyed, it is being balanced. Men took advantage of women too long so now the pendulum swung in the opposite direction. But it will surely return to a stable position again, with all the necessary corrections. Countries where the feminist actually succeed destroying the family unit will go under for lack of reproduction alone. Have no fear, feminists and their counterparts, male chauvinists, will go the dinosaur's way to extinction.


The real threat to families does not lie with feminists. It lies with men and woman both not understanding its purpose. And when that happens, they will fall to prey to ideologies. In the old days such understanding was not required. Marriage was an economical necessity. It is not any more, so its true foundations need to be rediscovered.
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Sep 8, 2017 9:20 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Freedomofspeech9
Freedomofspeech9Freedomofspeech9Swansea, Dyfed, Wales UK94 Threads 67 Polls 799 Posts
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Sep 8, 2017 9:54 AM CST Can the family unit be saved
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
A family unit to me would be people who are together and there for one another through good and bad times.

A family unit could also be seen as a husband and wife and children who live with either of the parents and who may not for some reason or another have chosen not to dwell together within the very same household.Meaning the husband and wife or who had never been married to one another but chose to have children anyway.
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Sep 8, 2017 2:51 PM CST Can the family unit be saved
jac_the_gripper
jac_the_gripperjac_the_gripperTonyrefail, South Glamorgan, Wales UK24 Threads 5,363 Posts
Feminism is a movement for equal rights for women.

You can't have equal rights for women, without equal rights for men.

How stupid do you have to be to not see the opportunities in that? laugh

What you're calling for with the destruction of feminism, is to go back to men having more rights and power than women, for sons to have more than daughters.

That's why no woman wants a family unit with you. It's not about society, so much as about how unpleasant you are personally.

For so many women, being a single mother is exactly about saving the family unit from men like you.

Some of us stay on our own, some of us find nicer men to share a family unit with.

Maybe, if you learn to play nicely, someone might want to play with you, but you need to take personal responsibility for that and stop blaming women.
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