Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea. ( Archived) (19)

Nov 2, 2018 1:54 PM CSTDoes America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
Butcher559
Butcher559Butcher559Whangarei, Northland, New Zealand13 Threads 1 Polls 750 Posts

Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.(Vote Below)

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Is the US provoking China ?
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Does the south China sea not belong to China ?
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China has been building up the spratly islands and building a military base on these islands, the US has sailed it warship through the area for some years now.
But the Chinese have had enough and have put their military on high alert in the area.
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Nov 2, 2018 2:02 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Like everything else, the warships were probably made in China and just going in for a service.laugh
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Nov 2, 2018 2:04 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
Tuesday2018
Tuesday2018Tuesday2018mayo, Mayo Ireland1 Threads 230 Posts
Of course they don't.

What makes the US think it does have the right is what I want to know. They're certainly not there to keep the peace that's for sure...

No I doubt they're trying to provoke China..they wouldn't dare..
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Nov 2, 2018 2:07 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
I care more about the fact that they are destroying reefs by building those islands very mad
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Nov 2, 2018 2:15 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
Tuesday2018: Of course they don't.

What makes the US think it does have the right is what I want to know. They're certainly not there to keep the peace that's for sure...

No I doubt they're trying to provoke China..they wouldn't dare..
Of course they do it's international water. The Chinese are trying to claim territory that doesn't belong to them.
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Nov 2, 2018 2:26 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Tuesday2018: Of course they don't.

What makes the US think it does have the right is what I want to know. They're certainly not there to keep the peace that's for sure...

No I doubt they're trying to provoke China..they wouldn't dare..
Well, unlike Great Britain who paid off its WWII debt to the USA in ~2005 and its WWI debt in 2015, China has never paid back its WWII trillion dollar dollar (USDs) debt to the USA, so the USA should be able and dock its ships anywhere China lays claim to property it doesnt own, and especially on China’s coasts.



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Nov 2, 2018 2:53 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
Tuesday2018
Tuesday2018Tuesday2018mayo, Mayo Ireland1 Threads 230 Posts
bigjb62: Of course they do it's international water. The Chinese are trying to claim territory that doesn't belong to them.
International waters are shared by all for the purpose of trade, shippinng etc etc....it is NOT intended for the cruising around of warships, especially warships belonging to countries that have no claim over the area. The US is over on the other side of the Pacific and doesn't own any of the surrounding land or islands, or have any claim on them, so they should not be there. (See EEZ claim)

Yes, China is, and wrongly so, but this dispute is between the surrounding countries and should be left to them to resolve without interference. The only reason the US is there is because of the oil and gas that lies under the sea bed...they're certainly not there for the common good....they're there because they're rapacious vultures and have their beady eyes on said resources.
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Nov 2, 2018 3:10 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Well.. that is a bias poll.
The key words are "INTERNATIONAL WATERS"

The situation is much bigger than China and the USA.
Other countries are involved who can not adequately defend themselves against China.
And China wants control of it all.. the food supply and oil and gas.
And China has had war ships there for a long time... as well as building islands for military and aircraft.
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Nov 2, 2018 3:10 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
Well.. that is a bias poll.
The key words are "INTERNATIONAL WATERS"

The situation is much bigger than China and the USA.
Other countries are involved who can not adequately defend themselves against China.
And China wants control of it all.. the food supply and oil and gas.
And China has had war ships there for a long time... as well as building islands for military and aircraft.
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Nov 2, 2018 3:11 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
CossackCat: Well.. that is a bias poll.
The key words are "INTERNATIONAL WATERS"

The situation is much bigger than China and the USA.
Other countries are involved who can not adequately defend themselves against China.
And China wants control of it all.. the food supply and oil and gas.
And China has had war ships there for a long time... as well as building islands for military and aircraft.
South China Sea - International Waters Governance

South China Sea - is a marginal sea that is part of the Pacific Ocean, encompassing an area from the Karimata and Malacca Straits to the Strait of Taiwan of around 3,500,000 square kilometres (1,400,000 sq mi). The sea carries tremendous strategic importance; one-third of the world's shipping passes through it carrying over $3 trillion in trade each year, it contains lucrative fisheries that are crucial for the food security of millions in Southeast Asia, and huge oil and gas reserves are believed to lie beneath its seabed
India supports freedom of navigation in international waters, including in the South China Sea, and the right of passage in accordance with accepted principles of international law. These principles should be respected by all

Territorial disputes in the South China Sea -
The South China Sea disputes involve both island and maritime claims among several sovereign states within the region, namely Brunei, the People's Republic of China (PRC), Republic of China(Taiwan), Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Vietnam.
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Nov 2, 2018 4:32 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
secludedStar
secludedStarsecludedStarUtah, USA25 Threads 2,288 Posts
bigjb62: Of course they do it's international water. The Chinese are trying to claim territory that doesn't belong to them.
Its theirs.-- Til~"""'' some one else shows up, and claims it. blues
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Nov 2, 2018 4:51 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
secludedStar: Its theirs.-- Til~"""'' some one else shows up, and claims it.
The point is you can't claim international water. That's why it's called international water.cool
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Nov 2, 2018 5:08 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
secludedStar
secludedStarsecludedStarUtah, USA25 Threads 2,288 Posts
bigjb62: The point is you can't claim international water. That's why it's called international water.
In other words.. - First come, First serve?.... sounds like they are already there. SO in turn, it must be theirs now?
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Nov 2, 2018 5:32 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
secludedStar: In other words.. - First come, First serve?.... sounds like they are already there. SO in turn, it must be theirs now?


Your mother must be so proud.yawn
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Nov 2, 2018 5:37 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
secludedStar
secludedStarsecludedStarUtah, USA25 Threads 2,288 Posts
bigjb62: Your mother must be so proud.
aw, your inbox must be empty.

One could only wonder why. Huh, Mr. Big Guy
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Nov 2, 2018 5:51 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
The South China sea is a major and extremely busy shipping route, China is ensuring the safe passage of these huge container ships, As the world knows, the USA Navy has a terrible record for sailing into other ships, So China had to build these islands, this way they can hold the hand of all USA Navy ships, give guidance, even wake up/sober up the Captain if necessary and ensure safe passage for everyone else.

Of course, had the USA never been in that area, swaggering around as if they owed it, China would never have needed outposts. laugh
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Nov 2, 2018 6:02 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
secludedStar: aw, your inbox must be empty.

One could only wonder why. Huh, Mr. Big Guy
sleep
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Nov 3, 2018 9:36 AM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
Sir_T
Sir_TSir_TLimerick, Ireland4 Threads 598 Posts
The US has as much right to sail its ships in international waters in the south China sea, as Russia had to sail its only Aircraft Carrier into the Mediterranean a couple of years ago, or China would have to sail its Aircraft Carrier along the US coast. As long as its in International Waters there is no real problem, legally at least.

Interesting factoid, The Chinese actually have a bigger Navy now than the US does. The US Ships are far more capable one on one than the Chinese ones are ,of course, but the Chinese Navy is concentrated in the south China sea whereas the US navy is spread all over the world, so that creates a big strategic difficulty for the US.
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Feb 25, 2019 5:30 PM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
charles_nz
charles_nzcharles_nzChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand1,386 Posts
The South China Sea does not belong to China.

As with any body of water, the edges belong to the country in closest proximity, and the middle belongs to no-one.

We should all be concerned about China going the way Japan did in the early 1940s.
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Nov 23, 2019 12:09 AM CST Does America have the right to sail their warships in the south China sea.
CossackCat
CossackCatCossackCatSomewhere, Maryland USA492 Threads 45 Polls 9,137 Posts
CossackCat: South China Sea - International Waters Governance

South China Sea - is a marginal sea that is part of the Pacific Ocean, encompassing an area from the Karimata and Malacca Straits to the Strait of Taiwan of around 3,500,000 square kilometres (1,400,000 sq mi). The sea carries tremendous strategic importance; one-third of the world's shipping passes through it carrying over $3 trillion in trade each year, it contains lucrative fisheries that are crucial for the food security of millions in Southeast Asia, and huge oil and gas reserves are believed to lie beneath its seabed
India supports freedom of navigation in international waters, including in the South China Sea, and the right of passage in accordance with accepted principles of international law. These principles should be respected by all

Territorial disputes in the South China Sea -
The South China Sea disputes involve both island and maritime claims among several sovereign states within the region, namely Brunei, the People's Republic of China (PRC), Republic of China(Taiwan), Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, and Vietnam.
Furious China Shadows Two US Warships Sailing Through Disputed Waters, Warns Them To Leave

International Waters is.. International Waters. Case closed.
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