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Sep 23, 2010 4:31 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Fallingman: They may know business but they sure kept it a secret when they ran the White House....teaching mode???? Negative mode more like.....what is the Tea Party position on managing the US deficit? and how do they propose to insure/care for the the health of the poor??
they have worked days and nights for a two years some thing and all they got is 21 pages of BS countaining the exact same as before added a repeal Obama care agenda... such a bunch of lousy loosers conversing doh
Sep 23, 2010 4:34 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Tea party canidate have just been selected, Fallingman. Give them a chance to get their feet under them....then you will get positions statements.

There are only 200 different Tea Party organizations in this grass roots movement.

This is the problem that I have had with President Obama and the DEM's position...'that no new ideas were coming'. Tea Party did not have any canidates to give those new ideas.

Now they do. Political pundits like myself can paper in new ideas to them....like the one you read here on health care.

There is about 40 days to the mid term. Plenty of time to get the ideas out and to platform firmed and debated. To get background and fact check done.

Obama was pressing them to get a early peak at what is coming. Easier to deflect and negate that way.

Today the REP come out with their 5 point 'Pledge for America'..just goggle it. Tomorrow Tea Party canidate will come to the table. Patient Fallingman, Rome was not build in a day.
weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!! Repube head Koch stoopidoes used millions and they have given birth to a Palin twin who actually took votes of one of their own guys ... rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 23, 2010 4:42 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Warren Buffet just said we are still in a recession. I tend to agree with Warren this time. Though the NBHR came and said it was over with.

The NBHR evaulates only this on one critieria. That is GNP growth or decline.

This recession and its net effect on jobs, which are still recovering slowly is little different than other past recesssions. They just released the first time unemployment claims and it bounced again.

Foreclosurers are still high. And there does not seem to be much consumer confidence out there.

So I think that Warren has called a good one.

Obviously the state of the economy is not good for the mid terms.
Just as McCain was TKO by the recession, now it seems DEM will face the brunt of the American fustration over jobs and the economy. Sure toss in some Rhino REP....but the DEM are on more than one target list other than Palins.

Any American that saw a dream fade this last 2 years, is going to hold them responsible.

Which bring back to the a question. Can we get our American dreams back? Beck thinks so, but only with God. And the REP Pledge for America...while telling how lousey it has been...does it give Americans a dream platform to raise? I have to read it, so don't know.

But obviously it was not in Health Care were American had thier dreams based. Obamacare would have been much accepted had it been so. Just maybe the American dream is diffeent for every American. What works for one, does not work for another. If so, seems to me the smaller and less intrusive a government is. The happier the American dreamer is.

JMO but I think that this is what the American voter is voting this time.....


Interesting analysation TT... you just need to add that the american dream of republicans is Way differnet than the american dream of other americans with differnet points of views and republican,s american dream is great for those five procent americans Obama administration is going to force paying more money back to the country they claim they love.
Sep 23, 2010 4:46 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
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This old and still seeing BS for searching the truth Conrad? Nasty boy you are scold

Look here as I have told before and learn some thing:

Sep 23, 2010 5:11 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Scubadiva: What do mean open their eyes? The ones I see are either rich and on the take or they are piss poor (the majority) and have their head planted firmly in the sand. Hard to open your eyes in that position... (I will bite my fingers now and not carry that thought further)

I once saw a political cartoon years ago when Bush was elected. It showed a reporter interviewing a toothless, fat, flagwaving guy in front of a trailer home. The reporter asked him: Why are you voting for Bush?" and the man answered "Because he will make sure I get to keep my money when I win the lottery".
rolling on the floor laughing

Welcome to this thread Scubadiva wine
Sep 23, 2010 5:28 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: People get a little antsy with CIA running small armies. They start
to think in terms of Cous...and take overs.....and sudden change of political power not associated to the vote.

I mean it is nice that the Afghans do trust us so much. To allow the CIA to have its own private army. See what 8 years of good relationship with the GWB administration will get you?

But face it, if Karsai is a drug user....he is taking drugs because
the Obama administration has driven him to it. With a CIA Army in his country, no wonder the man is unstable.

He was not like this while GWB was there. Obama comes to office and now Karsai is taking drugs, is complaining to much, and becoming a Taliban leader. Think that there just might be some good old US gov't misinformation there? Some US spin on a allie? Old Hal Holbrook kicking out some spin to cover for his failing diplomatic mission?

Now we get there! Hal Holbrook, your lovable and self centered Mr. Egotistical.....who cannot fail. Yes, now we get there. Painting Karsai as a failure saves old Hal Holbrook's butt. Was not my fault that this went further south than Argentina....was that Karsai's fault.

With Petreuas kicking serious Taliban butt in the field. There is
more pressure on Mr. Egotistical Hal to get the job done. Because the military is going walk out there in June of 2011 a winner. Mark my words there, Dude. Then old Hal is going to be holding the bag for a Afghan that is governed like a chicken coop without a rooster.


Karsai have always been a Stupid man and not good to trust on TT but the Bushney,s where even more stupid than he is and trusted him any way... you know... Rednecks and proffesors acting and feeling and trusting differnetly.grin

Today we definately getting most of the news at last and back then in Bushney,s time most news were censured and that is why YOU did not know a bout real Karsai TT comfort
Sep 23, 2010 6:08 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Hej Oslo...

Nice to see you hun teddybear heart beating bouquet blushing
Sep 23, 2010 6:11 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Remember these two Stupid men? Just imagine how sick minded politicians can cause so big dammage to a whole world...

Do not Allow Your Precious Votes Benefiting Stupid Liers and Crooks!professor



"forgive" but Never Ever Forget!uh oh
Sep 23, 2010 6:23 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Don't worry about it, Dude. It soon will be in the dustbins of the internet. After it is repealed they will sending those websites to the trashcan of the servers.


Repube ehads wil keep trying TT but at last they are going to learn the same lesson Canada gave to stupid right winged canadian anti universal health care folks over there... some day not too far from now TT... even repube heads got to defend Obamacare if they want to get elected... Exactly as right winged canadian politicians of today are forced to support Universal heatlh care plans of that country even they HATE it with all they got laugh

You do still not really in to what serious illnesses can mean for less fortuned country men of urs because u beleive the only ones effected are some afro americans and latinos and some illegals and then you beleive "who cares"...

Some day TT you too will understand... you just need to widen ur horison and travelling to country with universal ehath care on place and talking to people... LIVE of course and not from internet.
Sep 23, 2010 6:24 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I feeled so good seeing America and great Britain left when that monster president A bomb began to spread his BS over there...

Obama actually made a fabulous speech and his words a bout peace between Israel and palestinians and arabs generally was so great! Obama did not talk over there to please the republicna party of America of course and thats why he is a great president for America TT... as longer distance to republican points of views as better for America and for the rest of us as well!

Great Obama speech in UN....

OBAMA ROCKS! YES WE CAN!


But did he remember to bow down...professor
Sep 23, 2010 10:03 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Repube ehads wil keep trying TT but at last they are going to learn the same lesson Canada gave to stupid right winged canadian anti universal health care folks over there... some day not too far from now TT... even repube heads got to defend Obamacare if they want to get elected... Exactly as right winged canadian politicians of today are forced to support Universal heatlh care plans of that country even they HATE it with all they got

You do still not really in to what serious illnesses can mean for less fortuned country men of urs because u beleive the only ones effected are some afro americans and latinos and some illegals and then you beleive "who cares"...

Some day TT you too will understand... you just need to widen ur horison and travelling to country with universal ehath care on place and talking to people... LIVE of course and not from internet.


I have been to countries with universal health care. The people got just as sick and were just as mortal as in the US. It was Denmark.

Right....we got a surprise coming for your universal health care systems....because this health care is going to cover special needs, put back the the money into the elderly and seniors and still give our adults lower premiums than what they have under Obamacare.

Not to mention having a small government still. Which saves the countries billions....all while your universal and entitlement systems go belly up seeking more funds.

Hey....just heard the polling on the NY Govenor race. NY is one major DEM state right? Cumo is running for the Gov. The Tea Party canidate pulled to 6 points of him. Cumo....says...'I want to run a respectful race for government, that is the best way the people of New York will be served.'

The Tea Party canidate want to clean the State Capitol with 'a baseball bat'.

LOL.....in this year of political anger......who do you think is reading the NY voters the best?
Sep 24, 2010 8:51 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Dude how do yo like this combination for a REP 2012 run.

Petraeus for President and Grinrich for Vice Presidnt. (With Plain as a alternative for Grinrich)

Patreus is the only man in the government or the military that has had any success in the last several years. Both in Iraq and now if operation Anaconda goes well in Afghanistan.

But just bet he is not going to get a chance to complete operation Anaconda. He is not going to chase and press the alQeada and the Taliban all winter long....to their mountain hides, across the Pakistan border.
Nope the White House is not the making of REP heros here.

Sadly they are for keeping power and maintaining office. Not that it helps the country when they are in office.

The way I see this. President Obama is going to halt operation Anaconda with the first snow falls of winter. Instead of being military visionary and seeing the great opportunity of a winter offensive campaign in that rugged country. he going to call it off for the winter.

Allowing the Taliban to regroup and reman for the spring time.

Because they know in the White House....that if Petreaus wins in Afghanistan.....it is still that political thing that they were not
able to make work. That causes the country to crumple after we leave.
This falls back onto his ability to colaition build, then. And that is not going to happen. Not when you are Commander in Chief.

And when a mere order of halting the Anaconda offensive can be done. Because if you don't, Petreuas walks out of the country a American hero.
Ready for prime time American politics. Ready for a 2012 run at the White House.

Remember when I blogged that Presdient Wilson refused to allow Teddy Roosevelt to take a American Division into WWI combat? Teddy was well qualified for the command. But Wilson would not give him the command because he was not going to let him become a American hero again. To make another try at the White House from his bullmoose party...the bullmoose party of Teddy Roosevelt is much like the Tea Party of today.

This is nothing more than history repeating itself.

So Obama has a choice win in Afghanistan and then place a heroic and popular figure into a 2012 White House run. Or lose in Afghanistan and discredit Petreuas and the Americans that fought there.

What do you think that his choice will......
Sep 24, 2010 9:11 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
curiousgeorge2
curiousgeorge2curiousgeorge2magnolia, Mississippi USA11 Threads 5 Polls 488 Posts
barf barf barf barf
Sep 24, 2010 11:47 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
well to the people who like that incompetent clod in the white house. he is a dictator,coward, defeatist and a quesling who would sell this nation out and he doesn't care for the safety of the american people whether they are living in this nation especially on the border and if they are abroad. also he soen't care if americans are killed if we have another attack. also he doesn't like the military and don't care for our troops. he also want to tell us how to live and what to eat. plus he is he spending money foolishly on failed programs and living it up at the expence of the taxpayer.
Sep 24, 2010 12:01 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
US-Taxpayer October 2012!uh oh

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Sep 24, 2010 12:04 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Now Conrad, that had to be taken during the Bushney Administration.

If it was now, they'd be cruising down the road in a "green" vehicle with smiles on their faces, tossing out money. rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 24, 2010 4:56 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Presdient Obama had better carry some of that fire in his stomache over what Pres. A said today.....or Pres. A is going to have him by the shorthairs. He needs to show some frigin emotions. He not a ice man or a computer.

He needs to show some love and passion for the country. Letting Pres. A do the 911 truther thingee only a few miles from ground zero, just angered the entire country.

You don't come to our back yard and play games like that. Iran digging graves for American soldiers that were going to invade it....and Obama does not say a word about it? Where is his fire? His Patriotism?

You say that crap to Truman or Teddy Roosevelt.....they would eat your lunch. You say that stuff to Geronmo or Chochise, they would have your heart on a poll. I mean that literally. They are all great Americans leaders. Don't kid yourself we maybe civilized over here. But we got a lot of American Indian in us.

You read my post on Iran.....it was sincere. Had I been in the Iran embassy that day....for sure it would have taken bullets from them to take our embassy. We have had secondary reports that said the Revolutionary Guard organized embassy take over and had weapons in the croud. I would have made them use them, before giving up American soil.

Obama better find some fire. He is sending Michele out in mid Oct to campaign. I bet she has more fire than he does. She is a nice lady.
So I wish her well. Barack better stop thinking that he is Mr Intellectual College Professor and find some spine and backbone.

The country is looking for a leader, not a educator.


The country needs a leader and an educator I beleive TT. The regim in Iran will be history during Obama,s time in the White House... wait and see !

Only a Buzo showing the enemy what ever he gots mister... you have so much knowledge regarding militray stuff and so on and still this pre matchur? mmmm... how come?confused

Bush used to talk a lot and during his time on power... Pakistan got it,s nukes and tried those, NK got it,s nuke, Iran began to work more seriously to get the damn thing and received a lot new weapons from Russia and China and NK as well ... why? Because GWB is not well educated and gathered enough toknow howto bring up issues and he is of course a great ranch owner and a great providers for his cattels and beside his oil wheels and so on but a leader of a super power and so on ... nah! A Buzo who talked and talked and shouted agaisnt Russia as well and while he did that Iran got much more sympaty and a lot more new influence amoung America,s enemies and Alqueda got stronger and Taliban got stronger and u know the rest because I have told you in here a million times!

No TT... do not use too much gun powder to scare the gooseto death... use the necessary time, find the perfect bullet which matches in,bring it behind the bullet and shoot the damn thing if u really want your dinner!

Of course u can not get Obama,s methods mister TT... when you were so satisfide with GWB and Cheney and beleive Sarah Palin is Jean D Ark and Beck is a holy man with all answers... what can I expect?dunno
Sep 24, 2010 5:25 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Dude how do yo like this combination for a REP 2012 run.

Petraeus for President and Grinrich for Vice Presidnt. (With Plain as a alternative for Grinrich)

Patreus is the only man in the government or the military that has had any success in the last several years. Both in Iraq and now if operation Anaconda goes well in Afghanistan.

But just bet he is not going to get a chance to complete operation Anaconda. He is not going to chase and press the alQeada and the Taliban all winter long....to their mountain hides, across the Pakistan border.
Nope the White House is not the making of REP heros here.

Sadly they are for keeping power and maintaining office. Not that it helps the country when they are in office.

The way I see this. President Obama is going to halt operation Anaconda with the first snow falls of winter. Instead of being military visionary and seeing the great opportunity of a winter offensive campaign in that rugged country. he going to call it off for the winter.

Allowing the Taliban to regroup and reman for the spring time.

Because they know in the White House....that if Petreaus wins in Afghanistan.....it is still that political thing that they were not
able to make work. That causes the country to crumple after we leave.
This falls back onto his ability to colaition build, then. And that is not going to happen. Not when you are Commander in Chief.

And when a mere order of halting the Anaconda offensive can be done. Because if you don't, Petreuas walks out of the country a American hero.
Ready for prime time American politics. Ready for a 2012 run at the White House.

Remember when I blogged that Presdient Wilson refused to allow Teddy Roosevelt to take a American Division into WWI combat? Teddy was well qualified for the command. But Wilson would not give him the command because he was not going to let him become a American hero again. To make another try at the White House from his bullmoose party...the bullmoose party of Teddy Roosevelt is much like the Tea Party of today.

This is nothing more than history repeating itself.

So Obama has a choice win in Afghanistan and then place a heroic and popular figure into a 2012 White House run. Or lose in Afghanistan and discredit Petreuas and the Americans that fought there.

What do you think that his choice will......


I beleive in no militray men on real power or as politicians... is the best choice for America and for any where else because militray men are best being in the military and no where even near to get too much power in a civilised country... a Hero or who so ever I do not care dunno

In Iraq the dumb war of Bushney,s... well... I am not sure that gives much credit TT... that war have caused a horrible dammage to America and american economy and people know this much better than you and ur guys ever beleive wink

Afghanistan is much more a necessary war and hero,s of the war both from Iraq and Afghanistan deserve the best care and respect for ever but them becoming president? Nah... not a good choice and America under Siegh just sounds stupid and very Scarey in my eyes.

There is lot secrecy in the military every where and beside a lot of you know... covering each other asse* no matter what and that fact brings up dictatorship no matter in America or in Congo!

Grinnich? A real Enemy of America and a certain End for american cultur and american dignity and unity and prosperity if he ever gets too near to great power in America.... dangerous and certainly sick in his mind and as "clever" as Sarah Palin that way... send them both to Siberia so they can keep an eye on russians from there laugh
Sep 24, 2010 5:29 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
Posted: 06/10/10

Obama Prevaricates about Jobs

The spectacular loss of American jobs is devastating to more Americans than the oil spill in the Gulf, but Barack Obama still doesn't get it. This month he bragged to an audience of truckers in Hyattsville, Maryland, that our economy is "getting stronger by the day."

The U.S. Labor Department reports a very different picture. The number of long-term unemployed, defined as Americans out of work for 27 or more weeks, is at its highest level since the Labor Department began collecting such data in the 1940s.

More bad news comes from the Labor Department. In May, 431,000 jobs were added, but nine-tenths of them were government jobs.

Unemployment of young men is the highest in 61 years of record-keeping, according to the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston. The numbers for minority teenagers are tragic.

Obama's $787 billion federal stimulus program was packaged in mental images of construction workers in hard hats. However, most of those hired with Stimulus dollars were government employees.

More than half of stimulus jobs were in education, mostly women, which was part of his payoff to the feminists. Many states expanded staff for teaching and education administration at the same time that they had a declining enrollment of students.

The rest of America may be suffering from a recession, but it's boom time for federal employees. On average, federal employees are paid $71,206 per year compared to $40,331 for private sector workers.

Those figures are just the start of the comfort of being a federal employee. When you include benefits such as health care and retirement, federal employees make almost double what private sector employees receive: $119,982 versus $59,909.

Stay tuned: federal employees receive raises practically every year. From December 2007 through June 2009, average federal government salaries increased 6.6 percent while private sector salaries increased 3.9 percent. Most federal workers also get periodic pay hikes, called steps, which average 1.5 percent per year.

Federal employees don't spend much time worrying about being laid off, or about their jobs being transferred to China or Mexico, the worry that hangs over private sector workers. Under Obama, federal jobs keep increasing in number, not diminishing.

And there's more. Nineteen percent of federal employees make more than $100,000 a year. That's before benefits, overtime pay and bonuses are counted.

One of the reasons why government employees are so well paid is that they enjoy the advocacy of the richest and most powerful unions, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME). Last year was the turning point when government employee unions were able to boast more members than private sector unions.

According to an article in The Hill, the SEIU expects to spend $44 million to influence the 2010 elections, and AFSCME will spend $50 million. Most will be spent to help Democrats keep control of Congress and to implement Obama's agenda.

The best way Obama could create jobs is to cut taxes on those who create jobs (corporations and investors), but that's absolutely not his game plan. He wants redistribution of wealth from taxpayers to non-taxpayers and a larger percent of our population economically and attitudinally dependent on government.

The second best way to create jobs would be to stop importing foreign workers. Has Obama no regard for the 15 million unemployed Americans and the additional 10 million who have given up looking or are able to get only part-time jobs?
Sep 24, 2010 5:30 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
Each year, a million and a half foreigners are brought into our country and given work permits. That's a million and a half jobs a year that do not go to Americans.

At least 8 million illegal aliens also have jobs in the United States. The enforcement of E-Verify would make those jobs available to our own unemployed.

Don't let the liberals get by with the lie that Americans won't do those jobs. Illegal aliens work less than half of the jobs in every one of the categories where they cluster.

It's not only low-paid jobs that aliens take from Americans. The Census Bureau found that 34 percent of all software engineers are immigrants, despite the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers reporting that 48,000 U.S. software engineers are unemployed.

This is the 20th year of the H-1B program, which was supposed to admit only foreigners who can work jobs that require special expertise for which no U.S. employee can be found. From the start, this program has been a racket to allow big corporations to bring in cheap workers with limited skills to work ordinary jobs.

The Times Square would-be bomber, who was only a "B" student, once entered the United States on an H-1B visa. We haven't heard about any bureaucrat being fired for that mistake or even admonished.

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Sep 24, 2010 5:52 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I beleive in no militray men on real power or as politicians... is the best choice for America and for any where else because militray men are best being in the military and no where even near to get too much power in a civilised country... a Hero or who so ever I do not care

In Iraq the dumb war of Bushney,s... well... I am not sure that gives much credit TT... that war have caused a horrible dammage to America and american economy and people know this much better than you and ur guys ever beleive

Afghanistan is much more a necessary war and hero,s of the war both from Iraq and Afghanistan deserve the best care and respect for ever but them becoming president? Nah... not a good choice and America under Siegh just sounds stupid and very Scarey in my eyes.

There is lot secrecy in the military every where and beside a lot of you know... covering each other asse* no matter what and that fact brings up dictatorship no matter in America or in Congo!

Grinnich? A real Enemy of America and a certain End for american cultur and american dignity and unity and prosperity if he ever gets too near to great power in America.... dangerous and certainly sick in his mind and as "clever" as Sarah Palin that way... send them both to Siberia so they can keep an eye on russians from there


Am reading Joe Biden's book "Promises to Keep" Written in 2007. Interesting thing here is. So far in the read not one word on Barack Obama is in the book. But am not far into it. Now at the time of writing, Obama was on Biden's Foreign Service Commission in the Senate. Biden was thinking about making his 2008 Presidential run.

So?

Biden treats Obama like he was small potatos. Biden had been in the Senate for nearly 40 years. Obama for 2. Biden just ignores him.
Biden talks about going to Afghanistant on a fact finding trip.
What is interesting here.

He is the senior Senator and Chair of the Foreign Service Committee. Libermann goes. But Obama does not. This is the war 'we have to win'. But Obama cannot go on the fact finding trip? Biden could not order him on the trip? Or Obama refused to make the trip?

I will let you know if Biden answers the questions.......
Sep 24, 2010 6:00 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I beleive in no militray men on real power or as politicians... is the best choice for America and for any where else because militray men are best being in the military and no where even near to get too much power in a civilised country... a Hero or who so ever I do not care

In Iraq the dumb war of Bushney,s... well... I am not sure that gives much credit TT... that war have caused a horrible dammage to America and american economy and people know this much better than you and ur guys ever beleive

Afghanistan is much more a necessary war and hero,s of the war both from Iraq and Afghanistan deserve the best care and respect for ever but them becoming president? Nah... not a good choice and America under Siegh just sounds stupid and very Scarey in my eyes.

There is lot secrecy in the military every where and beside a lot of you know... covering each other asse* no matter what and that fact brings up dictatorship no matter in America or in Congo!

Grinnich? A real Enemy of America and a certain End for american cultur and american dignity and unity and prosperity if he ever gets too near to great power in America.... dangerous and certainly sick in his mind and as "clever" as Sarah Palin that way... send them both to Siberia so they can keep an eye on russians from there


So really you are against military people in political office. They should locked into a military career for 30 years and after that just placed out to pasture and forgotten. Kind of like 'old soldiers should just fade fade fade way' of Gen. MacAuthor.

Petreuas is shrewd commander and leader. He offers great leadership skills to the country. He know the Middle East like the back of his hand. Knows Islamic terrorism. Understands military needs and abilities. And he is a great presenter. If Obama is great orator, Petreuas know how to make a presentation. Even if he does pass out
at times.))

And you want to toss him away and retirement him....just because he
is a REP. He is American first, Dude. We don't toss men and women away here.

At his age...he can get two terms.....ain't that nice......
Sep 25, 2010 5:42 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
They say everyone gets 15 minutes of fame. Looks like Congress gave Stephen Colbern more than his share. After picking vegables for day while riding a scooter, Colbren was fired from a migrant day labor job that he had taken on. Then insulted the other immigrants by jokingly saying to his imaginery hispanic driver Pepe' that it was time to ride.

Only DEM could see that Colbern after this stunt had something serious to offer the immigration debate. But after closing their eyes and crossing their fingers, he was invited to testify before a Congressional Hearing on immigration.

What now has become known as 'joke gate', Colbern.....told the assembled
Congressmen, that do sit in those seat on the tax payers dime....that being a immigrant field hand is a 'really hard work.' Well most of us know that, Stephen. So this bit of enlightment was not a striking bolt of lightening from the heavens.

That Colbert...a fully licensed liberal comedian (LLC)...can be requested to testify in a Congressional hearing....is a reflection of the liberal DEM view on modern government. That government and goverance is a joke. They have held this position for many years. Frequently pointing to Nixon as the first to peace to convince them of concept.

Over the years, the liberal humor machine has taken more serious spin on things, but always managed to hand on to political scarism as being the key to being liberal enough. If you had it, you part of the liberal club. If you did not have it, more likely you were one of those....a conservative. If one could poke fun at the government or a government official, it was like a liberal secret hand shake.

Colbert surely has been admitted into the club. But the DEM that invited him to testify, surely knew this. He had been doing the liberal hand shake for many years in his show. So what more could they expect as he sat behind table in the hearing? He did not fail to give the
Congressmen and women.....a liberal hand shake, scouring their profession with scarism.

DEMs found it all in good humor, so they were part of the Colbert gag. Like a stage props. While the sour puss Rhino REP seldom smiled and brought their nasty attitude to the day. This is the DEMs that the country voted in on Obama's shirt tails of 2008. Good for a joke and good for little else.
Sep 25, 2010 6:16 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Terrorists attacked America on 9/11 and Geroge W Bush was not good enough to protect America and that,s it! Why on Earth being this short sitet and not accepting the truth TT? Bush did not take president Clinton,s warnings seriously enough and that is why Bush helped his OBL friends out of America soon after that horrible day! Albert Gore have pointed this out, president Clinton have poited this out, former CIA people and militray people have pointed this out and u are still blinded of ur desire for cheaper oil no matter the cost, and the damn stupid idea a bout taxation is the work of Lucifer BS!

Bush was not directly involved of course and all these teories a bout his or israel,s involvment is deep going BS and lies and stupid teroirs in my eyes but still... He Did Not Take The Threat Seriouly Enough... and terrorists attacked us all on 9/11!!!

After that he tried to repair the damamges but his personal Greed and his supporters Greed destroyed his cause and made this horrible Mess we are all suffering from still!

Do not come here and try to make a spin a bout that so called president A and me are saying the same and Europeans saying the same TT... You and Ur guys are so Way off that you have begin getting confused and trying to shoot around u as massively as you can and that is Exactly what gave more power to a person like that president A of Iran and his look a liked... back in the dark years of ur guys on power!

A whole world is changing and the people of republican state of WalnutGrow are still hailing Hate Hate Hate as if life is for ever and problems amoung nations and cultures can never get solved...


Dude you got something against Andy Griffin? He has been supporting Obamacare in TV ads here. Andy is a Walnut Grove kind of guy. So is Oppie....and Don Knotts heck give him more than one bullet. You got a potential situation of misuse of police weapons being made.

No Dude, the World is not changing. It is still this big planet that spins around the sun. 365 days in year, is one revolution. Or one year.
What is changing is the make up of the government of the United States.
Because unless DEM can motivate their voters to make it to the polls on Nov 2nd.....REP and Tea Party are going to get between 39 and 55 house seats. That is what the experts are saying. That is a wave vote.

It is also a referredum on the Presidency of Barack Obama. I like to say that they REP political planners were intelligent enough to do this.
But I cannot. This was totally self inflicting wounds that is bringing this about.

According to a recent article on the Axe (Axlerod). He and the President were is a economic meeting back in 2008. He told the President to expect a major REP rebound in the mid term if teh economy did ot pick up. So DEM have known this wave vote is coming. It has been planned for. Hence the Emanuel departure. And the economic advisors departure.

Obama wants to start off with new faces with the new Congress. It is likely a good plan....they serve at the pleasure of the President. Or another way of saying...here today and gone tomorrow.

People say give him more time. It is not him, but his administration of 5-6000 that missed the economic impact of not helping the main street early in the economic crisis. They just passed the $40b Small Business Act...for main street. It was needed back when they did the TARPII.
If fact could easily have been part of TARP II.

For what ever reason....they decided to wait. Just maybe that main street is very REP is the reason? Main street is going to get chance to vote soon. They did not like TARP II, Obamacare, and other issues that were handled by the Obama and DEM government. So Main Street is motivated to give them a message.....what can I say? Please don't do it Main Street!

Look at the bright side.....the world will still be spinning on Nov. 3rd.
Sep 25, 2010 8:06 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Remember that comverted boomers that now packs 154 cruise missiles?

Seem they have had a rash of commanding officer being removed from command for inapproriate behavior. The USS Ohio just saw her second commanding officer relieved of command.

Now the Navy subs are not COED yet. But in two years, they will be.
So that does not explain why these commanding officers are going to the Captian MAST for punishment.

They are not letting any public information from MAST hearing to be made. So these O-5 and O-6 ..a pretty high rank in the Navy.....are being released from duty without much being said.

There is more going on here that meets the eye.

Inapproriate behavior is a can be a pretty broadly and vaguely intrepretted in Military law. Sleeping with your head at the wrong end
of the bunk could be a inapproriate behavior charge.

Maybe these boomer skippers did not like the mission orders they were getting. Is what I am beginning to think here. Complained about it...
and were relieved of command.

Might be interesting. to find out how many unit commanders have been relieved of command since President Obama took office. Because a boomer orders come from the Pentagon, with a approval from the White House.

If these boomer captains felt they were getting orders unsafe for
their boats and crews....they might refuse them....and that again is inapporaite behavior or behavior not becoming a Officer.
Sep 25, 2010 9:01 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
Hot_Single_Dude: I beleive in no militray men on real power or as politicians... is the best choice for America and for any where else because militray men are best being in the military and no where even near to get too much power in a civilised country... a Hero or who so ever I do not care

In Iraq the dumb war of Bushney,s... well... I am not sure that gives much credit TT... that war have caused a horrible dammage to America and american economy and people know this much better than you and ur guys ever beleive

Afghanistan is much more a necessary war and hero,s of the war both from Iraq and Afghanistan deserve the best care and respect for ever but them becoming president? Nah... not a good choice and America under Siegh just sounds stupid and very Scarey in my eyes.

There is lot secrecy in the military every where and beside a lot of you know... covering each other asse* no matter what and that fact brings up dictatorship no matter in America or in Congo!

Grinnich? A real Enemy of America and a certain End for american cultur and american dignity and unity and prosperity if he ever gets too near to great power in America.... dangerous and certainly sick in his mind and as "clever" as Sarah Palin that way... send them both to Siberia so they can keep an eye on russians from there
You are talking through your Hat lately,Dude!
You're in dire need for more Talkingpoints,but like the Present ADMIN,you can find none!
Well gone DRY!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 25, 2010 10:31 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
ttom500: Remember that comverted boomers that now packs 154 cruise missiles?

Seem they have had a rash of commanding officer being removed from command for inapproriate behavior. The USS Ohio just saw her second commanding officer relieved of command.

Now the Navy subs are not COED yet. But in two years, they will be.
So that does not explain why these commanding officers are going to the Captian MAST for punishment.

They are not letting any public information from MAST hearing to be made. So these O-5 and O-6 ..a pretty high rank in the Navy.....are being released from duty without much being said.

There is more going on here that meets the eye.

Inapproriate behavior is a can be a pretty broadly and vaguely intrepretted in Military law. Sleeping with your head at the wrong end
of the bunk could be a inapproriate behavior charge.

Maybe these boomer skippers did not like the mission orders they were getting. Is what I am beginning to think here. Complained about it...
and were relieved of command.

Might be interesting. to find out how many unit commanders have been relieved of command since President Obama took office. Because a boomer orders come from the Pentagon, with a approval from the White House.

If these boomer captains felt they were getting orders unsafe for
their boats and crews....they might refuse them....and that again is inapporaite behavior or behavior not becoming a Officer.


That is exactly what happening here. Boomer Skippers have had so many psych test done on them (they carry the nuclear keys) that they are like lab rats. They are the most mentally stable of all the Navies skippers. They don't go around geting into problem with their crews, specially have they have served with them for a time.

No.

Go back to how we first learned aobuot the cruise missile boomers.
The Chonean sinking had occurred a few weeks prior. Obama realizes his
NKorean diplomacy is failing and that war on their is near.

He has the this new boomer.

So orders a surfacing near the NKorean Coastline. For boomer skipper there are only two reason to surface the boat. He is docking in port and they have a major accident on board.

So these two boomer skippers start to raise some questions in the Navy Command. They do the missions.....surface the boat....waiting n the surface like dead duck in a shooting gallery.....while NKorean vessel swarm in on them. Close enough to get photos, remember?

The dive the boat. Only now they got NKorea all over them like made bees that have had their nest kicked. Hitting them with active ping for range and distance. Active pings...mean they are near enough to kill you. This was not a fun mission for these boomer skippers. Just alittle to much adventure on these two missions to show US Naval Presence and power in the China Sea and near Korea.

They come home..file reports suggesting the next time you make us sitting duck...at least give us a shot gun to defend ourselves with.

Think that I off?....think about the Red October movie/book for a time.
Obama has these boomer skippers breaking every rule in the submariner book.....because he had a near war with NKorea going on.
Sep 26, 2010 9:10 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Running DEM are hiding their party affliation in their campaign ads.
Well you got to what you got to do. But if placing a DEM by your in
a campaign ad is going to lose you votes, then is time to rethink
what the party has stood for this last 2 years.

Besides....it does not matter. The ballot will clearly place that DEM
by your name. The voter will still that you are a DEM. And will vote accordingly.

But this is much like the DEM on anything. They take the position that they can hide a issue or spin a issue or twist it to make it less repulsive. It is one of the reason Washington is broken.

The DEM hearing on the financial collapse had nothing on Fannie and Freddie in them. Fannie and Freddie were DEM run quazi government agencies. DEM had done a fantistic job there according the hearings.
Fannie and Freddie are still trying to get $800b from the Fed government after taking $150b from it.

So much for a fantistic job.

How often have we heard....the quilty by association argument from the DEM? Don't think that just he knows this guy or that guy, that he will be like them. He is his own independent person. Yea right. Barack Obama said he would be a center line leader going into the 2008, today most feel he is a he leads from left. That he truly did lie to the nation over were he would lead from.

That is why the incumbant DEMs are hiding their party affliation. They know that with President Obama as head of the DEM party, with their votes on TARP II and Obamacare pin them to him...showing party affliation to the DEM is also showing loyalty to him. So now associations do matter.

It is too bad associations did not matter in 2008.....when Rev Wright, Father Phefflger, Tony Rizzo, Gov. Blagovich, and Bill Ayers popped onto the political scene of the country. Then they were just innocent associations, while today association's to being a DEM and to Barack Obama is a association to your local used car sales man that has sold the community 100s of lemons.
Sep 26, 2010 9:26 AM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
I'm guessing in the next election he will get what he deserves, unemployment.rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 26, 2010 12:21 PM CST Support America! Obama deserves recognition! Solidarity America!
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
A PLEDGE to America .............roll eyes uh oh





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