Ali, we don't even belong to our parents. They do have authority until we are of age and on our own. After that, their job is done. Not saying we just blow them off after that, just saying we don't own each other over here. We are what you call "FREE" Do you have any idea what that feels like?
outdoorgirlsun: Ali, we don't even belong to our parents. They do have authority until we are of age and on our own. After that, their job is done. Not saying we just blow them off after that, just saying we don't own each other over here. We are what you call "FREE" Do you have any idea what that feels like?
Our parents are our producer ,dont we belong to them ? U r right that we are independent but we are thier childs and we belongs to them
ali110: ddint you give th birth of them Venus ? I know u left them independent but they do belongs to you becoz u r thier Mom
Nope they belong to themselves...
Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.
You may give them your love but not your thoughts, For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you. For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.
You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth. The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite, and He bends you with His might that His arrows may go swift and far. Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness; For even as He loves the arrow that flies, so He loves also the bow that is stable.
mindfful: ok first of all i dont see what was so offensive
its an expression
like your boyfriend would say 'youre mine'
good grief and because the internet is available people should get immersed in what other cultures believe and how they relate to things? is that an appropriate thing to suggest? so which culture should they get hip to and start assimilating into?
you hate ali we get it
you think you magically know without doubt his deep dark motivations for his posts
why not get over it
and yes you ordered me not to address you in forum
oh well
it just disgusts me that you think its okay to tear people down and degrade them to others
who acts that way? your culture?
i dont want any part of it- its ugly to behave that way
Olsojente: Oh, and he's never back to reply when he get's confronted...My bet is, we'll get another moronic thread or poll in a minute...
what i dont get is why people just allow you to hurl insults constantly at people
i think those that sidle up and agree with you are just as bad as you are
there is no need for this type of criticism of peoples threads posts or personalities (as you perceive them) in here
i dont know what benefit you receive from it but its distasteful to say the least. you have always made perfectly clear who you like here and who you dont and why- so why the need to do it EVERY TIME you sign in or see the person?
you dont like ali you firmly believe he is a bad person and in the stone age and has 'an agenda' ooooh so sinister he is
so why have you never avoided one of his threads? because you have some heart of gold that you want to warn others? or is he just an easy target to insult?
my kids are mine they carry my name it identifies their family group as being from me
they live their lives but yes they are my children and i dont think we would want it any other way but thats just one family's story
every family has their own story but that wasnt what the thread was about was it?
it was someone attempting to make a joke and someone else twisting it up (speaking of agendas) and making it a platform to 'expose' the thread posters vicious and wrong nature'
gee that never happens on CS
why not just visit with people you like on here and skip over the rest?
do we really have any right to insult people here? that has become the culture of CS but i think it stinks
OK Ali, let me explain this belong thing....In America, no one belongs to anyone....Everyone has basic human rights, and say just because ur parent had U, they still have to treat U right, or U could be taken away from them....Now my religion teaches that we r all God's children, that he created us, but even God gives us "Free Will" as to whether we want to belong to him....So no one really belongs to anybody....We may be responsible for some folks, but we cannot own them....
Women were once thought to be the property of their man/husband so it still rings of property to us....
mindfful: my kids are mine they carry my name it identifies their family group as being from me
they live their lives but yes they are my children and i dont think we would want it any other way but thats just one family's story
every family has their own story but that wasnt what the thread was about was it?
it was someone attempting to make a joke and someone else twisting it up (speaking of agendas) and making it a platform to 'expose' the thread posters vicious and wrong nature'
gee that never happens on CS
why not just visit with people you like on here and skip over the rest?
do we really have any right to insult people here? that has become the culture of CS but i think it stinks
why not just visit with people you like on here and skip over the rest?
I happen to comment on Alimans threads because I like him...as he well knows I consider him to be a friend. But a true friend is also the first to smack you upside your head if you put your foot in it. There is honesty in friendship
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Buffy327: OK Ali, let me explain this belong thing....In America, no one belongs to anyone....Everyone has basic human rights, and say just because ur parent had U, they still have to treat U right, or U could be taken away from them....Now my religion teaches that we r all God's children, that he created us, but even God gives us "Free Will" as to whether we want to belong to him....So no one really belongs to anybody....We may be responsible for some folks, but we cannot own them....
Women were once thought to be the property of their man/husband so it still rings of property to us....
venusenvy: why not just visit with people you like on here and skip over the rest?I happen to comment on Alimans threads because I like him...as he well knows I consider him to be a friend. But a true friend is also the first to smack you upside your head if you put your foot in it. There is honesty in friendship
it was a joke he made
as soon as olso begn putting him down you went right along
i am pretty sure she wasnt trying to be his friend
and to suggest someone open their mind?? its just rude-
we all have our own culture but seriously i didnt see this as a teaching moment- i thot it was just ali jumping in and starting a thread to visit with some folks
but im sure i am mistaken
have it your way
dont call rude rude or insults insults
thats your business venus
i said what i have to say- i think it was well out of line which means its time for me to go for awhile
i cannot stand to see the times when its ok to denegrate certain people- thats just me- im sensitive to it
Nahhh, did not bother me so much as a women, but it did others. And through discussions like this we learn about other cultures...
I like to think of myself as more a "HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST, wishing only the best for all...Not just women but men also, and participially old folks and children....
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Buffy327: Nahhh, did not bother me so much as a women, but it did others. And through discussions like this we learn about other cultures...
I like to think of myself as more a "HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST, wishing only the best for all...Not just women but men also, and participially old folks and children....
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
"She Belongs To Me"
What makes you think she'll go with you What makes you think you're better than me You think you can read her mind Maybe you're just looking for a good time Maybe you can give her more Tell me what you're doing this for Stay away from her, 'cause it's making me angry
Don't tell me how to love my baby She belongs to me
You come around looking for kicks But I know all about your dirty tricks now You think you took away my dream Ain't gonna be easy 'cause I get real mean Get out of here, get out of my life You're gonna be sorry if we have to fight Stay away from her, 'cause it's making me angry
Don't tell me how to love my baby She belongs to me
Don't tell me how to love my baby She belongs to me
as soon as olso begn putting him down you went right along
i am pretty sure she wasnt trying to be his friendand to suggest someone open their mind?? its just rude-
we all have our own culture but seriously i didnt see this as a teaching moment- i thot it was just ali jumping in and starting a thread to visit with some folks
but im sure i am mistaken
have it your way
dont call rude rude or insults insults
thats your business venus
i said what i have to say- i think it was well out of line which means its time for me to go for awhile
i cannot stand to see the times when its ok to denegrate certain people- thats just me- im sensitive to it
I dont need you to speak for Ali and my friendship. I think you are waaay more offended than he ever was. And frankly, I do notice that with you M/F. I think YOU are making a mountain out of a molehill where none existed before. A virtual tempest in a tea-pot. Furthermore, if I agree or dissagree thats my perogative, as is my right to express myself in that regard. I have no worries for my friendship with Al, Its based on stronger stuff than this. This was simply something I dissagreed with, and told him so...If Im not worried, and hes not worried, I really have to ask why you are???
MerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia11,403 posts
Hi Ali...
Loosely speaking...
I belong to me... My kids belong to me... yep.. I am still claiming them as mine.. ( but yeah... they really belong to themselves.) but this is loosely speaking hey...
My bf belongs to me on that level of relationship..but he is his own person... and in truth can and does what he likes... and if I had an animal... it would belong to me...
but ... definately, my garden belongs to me.. even tho the weeds think it belongs to them... and my house belongs to me... I have the title... ( a liability)
but my sewing machine belongs to me... exclusively... I will not share it...
so loosely speaking... we all belong somewhere and to someone, whether as friends or more ... in their hearts.. there is a bit of space that is allocated...
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
Merriweather: Hi Ali...Loosely speaking...
I belong to me... My kids belong to me... yep.. I am still claiming them as mine.. ( but yeah... they really belong to themselves.) but this is loosely speaking hey...
My bf belongs to me on that level of relationship..but he is his own person... and in truth can and does what he likes... and if I had an animal... it would belong to me...
but ... definately, my garden belongs to me.. even tho the weeds think it belongs to them... and my house belongs to me... I have the title... ( a liability)
but my sewing machine belongs to me... exclusively... I will not share it...
so loosely speaking... we all belong somewhere and to someone, whether as friends or more ... in their hearts.. there is a bit of space that is allocated...
I think the word "belong" can have a different context. When people love each other they can choose to belong to each other, but it does not mean that they "possess" each other. We belong to our children and they to us but we do not "possess" them.
0rpheusSomewhere in, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK8 Threads425 Posts
0rpheusSomewhere in, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK425 posts
Well said sunnydaze, the original question was using the verb 'belong' in order to classify which country the girl in the picture was from. This is a correct usage of the word. As for families yes it is also the correct usage when describing a family group, it only becomes a possessive verb if we describe property.
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