This might be for political insiders that are running a campaign. But see how I severed from McViegh earlier. I admitted what he was....a member of the same political spectrum as myself. I did not know him and repuked what he did.
I don't have to get into the aryan brother hood...his army tour....all the fluff stuff....that people will only think that connects you even closer to him. People have short attention spans and they only remember a fraction of what they read or hear.
When you started talk about weed and decriminalization....see how I answered? Short brief and I was gone....you were not listening to my Loughlen arguement that will stigmatize the liberal movement of today. But in the back of my mind....I am thinking Brodhie and Loughlen.....both did weed that is what the fluff stuff will get you... Trust me on this...
Liberals are going to hit with Loughlen for the next 5-7 years. I am giving you a non vitroil way to escape the conversation/post/thread/late night talk show appearance.))
And yes....how Palin got tangled up in this is also very bad.
We have been thru this in the past.....we are just sharing hard learned and constructive ideas to help their cause....to answer President Obama anti vitroil message.
I am just trying to point this out. For the rule and regulation people of CS and the thread. I have asked for your greatest rule/reg of any country. No taker as of yet.
The reason you cannot find one that fit the definition. I will whisper it to you softly. There are too many of them.
He who governs least, governs best.....a very old political theorem.
I thought you had the answer..now we got to ask the Saudi? Gesh.....the Saudi ....now Dude wants Obama to get his answers from the Saudi. Obama already using more REP for his answers and solutions from his first two year...now.....he is forces to mid road because of the mid term.
We will not need the Saudi.....the Tea Party and REP will figure it out for him.....
The Code Federal Regulation (CFRS) change with near every piece of legislation that congress passes and the President signs.
Now if you can tell me, with the amount of legislation that is passed and signed....what is in just one of the 50 CFRs books....my is off to you. One the major problem is no one can keep up with the CFRs. They are the endless paper mill from Washington.
Dude here....would have the government...of the UNited State being one of these geo political computer games....with all sort of rule and regulations to dictate what the government agencies are doing. That is just more power to the Congress....not to the executive office.
So I ask you the same question I asked Dude....give me one great rule or reg that any country in the world has to have?
I got a feeling we are talking apple and oranges. You are trying to destigmatize the liberals...from what? Loughlen yes? That is how I read the thread title.
So were is the witch hunt? Liberals are hammering at Palin....so she is not in the hunt. The man that committed the act is arrested and facing justice. So no witch to hunt there.
But here it is....
Right wing radio and TV has connected him to the left. So I admit they are probing around for more. If you read my first post, I said "do the self inspection". It is lot less painful. You can to a clear denouncing and then sever....just like Lincoln did with Brown. Just like I did with McViegh.
But just like President Obama and Wright. He did not want to sever at first. Only after it got clear it had to be done, did he do it.
You have a fake loyalty going on with Loughlen. He has hurt the liberal causes of this country badly. And you (liberals) need to sever, just like I did earlier with McViegn. Just like Obama did with Wright. Just like Licoln did with Brown. Admit what he is and denounce him and sever. And get other liberals to do it as well.
But no matter what path your take here....let me use our civil movements as examples....Martin Luther King (non violent demonstration against the government) and Malcom X (violent conflict with the government to overthrow). Eventually the talking stops. For a non violent movement. And for a violent movements.
In the first, you have a either peaceful resolution. Or you have a fustration that builds to violence. The second you have talk that can engage the conflict to peaceful resolution. But you can still have talks and still have violence.
But guys like Loughlens...they don't want to talk. This guy has not said a word since being arrested. Except in front of the judge when his attroney prompted him to say "yes". There is no dialogue with this guy. That is clue why I think Louglen is in this anarchist mode. Malcom X people did not get into political dialogue. Bill Ayvers did not give a warning to the placed they bombed.
But on coining new words. We have been there and done that. Liberal ideology allows them to toss a new word out with a new meaning at the drop of a hat. But does not mean it is factual or concrete to sold goverance or political debate. Every year new words are made up.
But if if it just wordsmithing...yikes...anything can be wordsmithed.
There has been....which American liberals don't like to acknowledge... much less concede....a anarchist movement in the far left. It historically has been in Europe. Yes it goes right back to the French revolution. They created anarcy to drive the Royalty from the French throne.
The question that I have....been placing here. Is if Loughlen is a modern American version of this. for 1000s of people smoke weed, but don't make a attack on government officials. But Loughlen run around Tucson finding the need items for his assault. So surely planning and fore though occurred here.
And liberals want to avoid a tie that fore thought into his blogging and drugged lifestyle? With their historical debate on weed use? It is not going be accepted. Thomas Jefferson and the others did not kill 6 people and wound 13. That had a sense of civility and moral behavior to them, that Loughlen totally lacks.
From this side...feel free to participate..any time.
Name one regulation that is great for a country? Pick any contry in the world...Denmark, US of A, UK.....any of them. Give us one great regulation that cannot they live with out?
I have seen the several Oppenhiemer specials and read some on him.
He knew what he was building. A brilliant mind and a great organizer of men, facilities, resources and science. He might have wanted nuclear energy but the only way to get there was with the bomb.....during WWII. The Federal government was not go to fund something that complex and costly, without a wartime application.
I think that he just "knew to much" at the end.
True enough....we dodged the cold war nuclear bullet. Can we do the same with the next one?
Go back to McViegh. He was in and out of the news for 7 years before he was executed.
Unless liberal either make a solid denouncing of Loughlen and a distancing of themselves from him. You have 5-7 year trying to explain him coming up.
If you denounce him, you have to first accept what he was a liberal....with out the sugar coating, the rationalizing and mental disorder defense for his anti government and violent ways.
That is exactly what Lincoln did with Brown in the 1860s.
It is time for a little honesty in liberal ranks of the country. Because the Rush L's, Ann Coulters, Hannities and Glenn Becks are going to keep him the news. They are going to keep slaying the liberal arguement the "that though he (the liberal) had strange ideas, he never hurt anyone and he was innocent."
Loughlen blows that long time liberal position all apart.
Galhci Bodhi, you posted this thread at this time....because you know what Loughlien can do the image of liberals in the country. In that I salute you, but I also am giving you my advice.
This is my best advice....
Because trying to paint Luoghlen as nmerely a nut case as many are doing....is not going to fly. The night prior to the shooting he was contacting a high school buddy that had a long pot smoke history with him.
We know the legalization of pot is a DEM and liberal platform issue.
So why do bloggers like our friend here...only associate guns with REP? Loughlen has many charateristics of a liberal. You have to admit that. I make the case that he was a liberal anarchist...yes still a nut job. But few are accepting that....
You can paint Tim McVeigh as Hari Chriana but it is a wrong painting. He was far right nut case. As I conservative, I can admit that. I don't associate that extreme area of the political theory.
But hey.....if liberals and DEMs are paint all REP as gun tottin, rambo types....then they better watch out for the paint drops from Loughlen. They do stain and they do hurt.
heard it the second time today.....and it had you name all over it.
Jeff Turne's Why Don't We Just Dance
Baby why don't we turn that TV off Three hundred and fifteen channel of bad news on Well it might be me, but the way I see it the whole wide world has gone crazy So baby why don't we just dance
Guess the itty bitty living room ain't going to look like much When the lights go down and we move the couch it will be more than enough For my two left feet and our two hearts beatin' nobody's gonna to see us go crazy
So baby why don't we just dance down the hall maybe straight up the stairs boucin' off walls floatin' on air baby why don't we just dance
Baby why don't you go put your best dress on Those high heels you love to lose as soon as the tunes come on On second thought just the way you are is already drivin me crazy so baby why don't we just dance down the hall maybe straight up the stairs bouncin off the wall floatin on air Baby why don't we just dance
Ah........cut a rug
Well it might be me, but the way I see it the whole world has gone crazy so baby why don't we just dance Oh baby, why don't we just dance
Here we totally agree. They are not going to write any campaign legisltation that restricts contributions.
It would ruin their reputations.....if the American people thought that Congress did not cost a small fortune. The old adage....if it is free and cheap, there is likely a reason.
Katt they will just employ more attroneys to weave thru the regulation. Antroenies at $250 to $500 per hour.
To one the lobbyists is the problem causes the cost increase. To another the antroney is the one. But really they both do it. Because they bring little positive from Washington. And both are paid such large hourly rates that increase to the cost of doing business.
So us return to a broader debate of government rules and regulations.
How did Stalin rule/gover Russia?
With rule and regulations. They needs some farmland....that the peasants were living on and working....they made a collective farm with Kremlin rules and regulations.
It was all very legal and very propper, I might say.
Also was enforced by the Russian Red Army and Stalin's secret police.
But in the end...those peasants....that gotten the land by years of work and land grants from the Czars.....end up being State farm workers. Instead of owning something. They were reduced to being cogs in the state machine. Instead of having a inheritance to give and receive they had nothing.
Binging me to ...President Obama and the DEM desire to place heavy taxes on US inheritances.
They (the DEMs) got the government into the financial mess it is in with the help of the REP. But now via a increase in inheritance tax rates, they are seeing one way to get from under the mess. Billions each year are transferred from deceased to inheritors in this country.
Yet the FED Government want to step into the middle of this grieving process....with its hand out....and say give me mine before you get yours....in fact give me more than what you are getting.
Inheritors are going to be forced to sell homes....businesses.... vessels....aircraft....and other large dollar inheritted items just to pay off the government's inheritance tax. In a weak economy, the price they get likely will be a faction of the real value.
But that does not matter here to the DEMs. Because now...those items sold....are all taxable income or capitol gains from the inheritor next year income taxes. It is a two fer for the government. They force the sell and get capitol gains tax revenues in the next tax cycle. Or double taxation.
It is a bigger government revenue deal than what it first appears.
The DEM inheritance policies and inheritance taxes are going to make peasants out of Americans. That have worked years to make a family business, acquire properties and family wealth. This more of the wealth redistribution plan for American that DEMs have come up with. And it is going to be regulations and tax laws that they use to do it with.
A reason that the Chamber of Commerce was not invited to the White House during the economic summit....is they stand against this inheritance policy. Big corporation that are public owned...there is not the exposure in stock transfer during a will reading. Pretty sure it is considered capitol gains.....and only gets the one tax. Check that with your CPA. Big family own public corporations are going to be exempted from the inheritance tax reg is my thinking.
You are just rationalizing your political vitroil, Dude....President Obama message was clearly to modify and to tone down public debate was clearly for both sides.
Just some general news and I am calling it a night.
Steele dropped his bid to retain the GOP Chair. Looks like he lost the support for the job. Right now all the possible GOP presidential canidates are pushing their guy for the job.
Tunisian booted out a autocratic President. Some are saying that this a very good thing....for democracy in the Moslem world. Me included.
They officially stopped the high border fense. 54 miles in remote AZ at a cost of 1b. They just never got a realistic proposal together for a high tech fence.
Obama has loosen.....that is loosen the REG for travel to Cuba. Making Cuban cigars and rums easier to acquire here. Yes may I have one of those hand rolled and a taster of 151 Rum please.
President Fidel is a happy man today.And many in the Cuban America community are not.
And the strangest piece of news. 24 hour prior to shooting REP Gibbons and the others. Louglhner was having his pic taken in a G-String with a Glock. This boy is certifable, what ever corrections institution that gets him for a permanent or short time resident, needs to watch him very closely.
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is off to you. One the major problem is no one can keep up with the CFRs. They are the endless paper mill from Washington.
RE: Liberalism: A Misunderstood term
This might be for political insiders that are running a campaign. But see how I severed from McViegh earlier. I admitted what he was....a member of the same political spectrum as myself. I did not know him and repuked what he did.I don't have to get into the aryan brother hood...his army tour....all the fluff stuff....that people will only think that connects you even closer to him. People have short attention spans and they only remember a fraction of what they read or hear.
When you started talk about weed and decriminalization....see how I answered? Short brief and I was gone....you were not listening to my Loughlen arguement that will stigmatize the liberal movement of today. But in the back of my mind....I am thinking Brodhie and Loughlen.....both did weed that is what the fluff stuff will get you... Trust me on this...
Liberals are going to hit with Loughlen for the next 5-7 years.
I am giving you a non vitroil way to escape the conversation/post/thread/late night talk show appearance.))
And yes....how Palin got tangled up in this is also very bad.