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My aunty's experience with the bank manager - multipart...

Good Day from Patrick Chan,
You might be skeptical about this email as we have not met before,
but I know with the right mutual understanding,we can work together to
achieve success as I introduce to you this project.
There is the sum of $24,500,000.00 in my bank as I am a staff of "Hang
Seng Bank Ltd.There were no beneficiaries stated concerning these funds
which means no one would ever come forward to claim it.That is why I ask
that we work together so as to have the sum transfered out of my
bank.Should you be interested please send me your:
1,Full names,
2,Occupation,
3,Private phone number,
4,Current residential address.
After that I shall furnish you with more details about this Opreation.I
will be waiting for your response and assurance.
Regards
Patrick Chan

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Not quite... you don't know me. Later on look for my aunty's thread.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

My old aunty has a few thousand to risk, and I am sure she would be happy with the deal, but she needs a few hundred bugs to get it. She lives far from the city and needs a special vehicle, you know?

If interested, let me know. If you are serious you should have no problem to pick up the bill for the travel. cheers

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

They are the Mormons - so they say laugh

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

It is my view they are already worshipping "the wrong dude". Read the thread... wave

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Is it not called anthropomorphism? The language used talks about God as if He had feet, back, hands, etc, when He is a spirit noone has ever seen...

Trees also clap their hands...

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

We have been off-topic for a long time laugh

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing An atheist debates with a religious. Their points of view is vastly different. There is no hope of agreement, ever.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Prophecies are glimpses into the future. They often give a reason for why something will happen. There are many of them, so you need to take them and like with a puzzle try to get a picture, but with many pieces missing. What often happens is interpreters come up with a framework into which they try to fit the pieces. The framework requires some assumptions to be made, and this is where they can go wrong.

Seeing into the future through prophecies is a cloudy business. You only know with certainty when they are already fulfilled.

This is the reason I don't like to get into prophecies. I have my opinion as to what to expect, but I would not declare that I know with certainty.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Prophecies are often hard to interpret. I only intended to concentrate on a very few passages to show who the Antichrist is, how all other prophecies will be fulfilled I do not want to speculate. Those that have been already fulfilled can be clearly seen, but future stuff is a bit cloudy.

Most interpreters are guilty of reading current situation into the prophetic passages and there are far too many interpretations. Long time ago I had a lot on interest in prophecies, but over the years I dropped it because they are the most important. If you want to know about Armageddon, you can look up the interpretations of various denominations.

As I told you my opinion is that because of the corruption of Israel instead of the Kingdom exile came and Gentiles escaped judgment. The Kingdom will come sometime in the future, when, I do not know. Anyone who knows is a liar.

The Preterists argue that all related prophecies were meant to be taken spiritually and they were all fulfilled in 70AD. I am not yet familiar with their ideas, but on this thread I presented the part that the Kingdom actually came when the son of man approached the Ancient of Days, and Yeshua said, "all authority has been given to me, therefore, go an make disciples". So they say he has been ruling since, and he is fulfilling a number of Messianic prophecies - the would is filled with the knowledge of God, Israel regathered to her land, the laws of Noah in place in many countries, etc. Will there be a great final battle? Preterists don't think so, I do. But the nature of prophecies is that you know the WHAT, but not necessarily the HOW.

So if you want some kind of solid interpretation, I can tell you one of the established ones that will certainly be wrong.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

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Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

That is an interesting subject, we should have another thread for it.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

You are using an outdated bible translation, as "replenish" is in the KJV. The Hebrew term means "populate", not "replenish". There was no flat earth theory as I already pointed out. If you are happy with your fairy tales, so be it. I am interested in proper interpretation.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Incorrect. The context is provided by what went ahead in Genesis, that is, the covenant and the commandment to go forth and populate the world. Yet, they stay together in direct violation of the command. The idea of God being afraid of people is foreign not only to the text, but to the whole bible. I don't know where you get it from.

Anyway, you can read anything in the text you like. Daniken did and say UFO service stations and UFOs in Ezekiel. He made a fortune on his ideas because that is what people buy.

Has the Antichrist come?

The UN headquarters are in the US and its biggest donor is also the US. Are you suggesting that applying political and economic pressure on it members as well as on the UN itself the US doesn't have its way whenever it wants it? The US even withheld funds from the UN to apply pressure on it. When Bush said, "whoever is not with us is against us", who would have risked a war with the US? The UN at times is clearly a tool for US foreign policy.

And the US does whatever it wants anyway, see the Iraq issue:





No WMD was found ever. Not before the war and not after. No UN resolution authorised the aggression of the "Coalition of the willing" against a sovereign country.



"Probably"? That is a good enough reason to drop them. Why don't your government save a few more billion lives?



Illegal, sure it is. War on terror, renditions, torture of (even suspected) enemy combatants, water-boarding, Abu Gharib, just to name a few shame spots that your will have in the history books - and nobody will remove them.

Has the Antichrist come?

You can't just destroy a country and murder millions its citizens having "poor intelligence". You have to be absolutely sure they have what you think. Unless, of course you want their resources, in which case you only need to fabricate a lie and repeat it enough times for people to believe it.



And that was the wooden drones. Kidding me...



That is exactly why you don't attack a country on presumption. What makes the US different from terrorists? The muscle?



Except there was a huge flow of capital out of the US after 9/11 and by capturing the Iraqi oil supply and cancelling the Iraq's contracts with European countries like France and Germany investing in Europe became more risky and the flow was reversed. This was the analysis of a high level Chinese diplomat. The Iraqi was was meant to put a pressure on the EU.



Yes, these were indeed the fabricated excuses.

RE: Why

Maybe because of famine. They are, but some of them die.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Not so. If you wish to interpret a text, you need to do it in its context. Not reading some external ideas into it (like God is afraid of the little guys).

Has the Antichrist come?

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Has the Antichrist come?

Twisting? Huh. Everyone is guilty who disagrees with the US...

One just needs to look around... the tip of the iceberg...







"Consider the Pentagon Papers, the collection of top-secret United States Depart of Defence material of that government's political and military involvement in Vietnam from from 1945 to 1967, consisting of 3,000 pages of historical analysis and 4,000 pages of original government documents. Eventually a copy was leaked and published, revealing the extent of the U.S. intervention, including the expansion of the war into Cambodia and Laos, none of which had been previously reported. Most importantly the Papers revealed that four administrations had deliberately misled the public about their intentions, including the faked second Tonkin Gulf Incident which resulted in the U.S. military intervention in Vietnam, a conflict resulting with some two to four million dead."



So starting wars on lies? WMD in Iraq, anyone? After starting 2 million children under the age of 6 to death?

Who is twisting history? Were the Vietnamese enemies? Iraq was an ally. Saddam Hussein corrected the reporter when he referred to George Bush, he said, "No. Mr Bush". Bin Laden was an ally against Russia, financed by the CIA.

But yes, it is always the victors, the most powerful, that write history, and everyone else twists it. And no surprise they justify their crimes.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

We do not gather from the text why they built that structure and the idea that the Almighty would be afraid of His creation is ludicrous. Mankind was simply not going that way they meant to.

There are numerous views, I listed the best ones in my opinion:

"Rabbeinu Bachya (13th-14th Century) gives a number of explanations. On an elementary level, he explains that their plan was to build a monument that would be seen from many miles around. They wanted to settle together, and decided that they would all remain within view of the tower and never stray from it. Anyone who strayed too far from the metropolis would have the tower to guide him back. This, however, was not G-d's plan, since He created us to settle the world—all of it—and make it a better place..."

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"The Netziv (Rabbi Naphtali Tzvi Yehuda Berlin, the19th century Rosh Yeshiva of the famed Volozhin Yeshiva) has a fascinating and very instructive view on their plan. He explains that they were the first social engineers—hoping to create a utopian society where all lived and thought as one. They feared that if some people would settle their own colonies and towns, they would develop their own cultures and unique modes of living. They wanted everyone to live in one controlled environment where they would be able to make sure that all remain culturally homogenous. The tower served as a base around which all people of their planned colony would settle—no one leaving its immediate environs. The problem with their plan was that it was the first step toward a tyrannical state where no individual expression would be tolerated, and G-d split them into separate nations.

The Lubavitcher Rebbe once explained the episode as follows: They planned a tower which would be a monument to inspire commitment to their common goal—survival. They wanted to ""make for ourselves a name""—to ensure the continuity of the human race.

Where did they go wrong?

Precisely that was their error: they saw survival as an end in itself. Let us make a name for ourselves, they said; let us ensure that there will be future generations who will read of us in their history books. To them, life itself was an ideal, survival itself a virtue.

This was the beginning of the end. Nature abhors a vacuum, and this is true of spiritual realities as well: unless a soul or cause is filled with positive content, corruption will ultimately seep in. A hollow name and shrine soon becomes a tower of Babel."

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

What ground do you have to accuse her of all this wickedness? While I disagree with the doctrine she stood for, she did what she could from the little she had. It would be nice to see if people who criticise her did half as much.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Didn't she help the needy? I think she had a really great charity work among the poor.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

Agree. thumbs up

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

... and that is great! Faith in action.

Is the Antichrist coming, or has already come?

... and that is great! Faith in action.

Has the Antichrist come?

Most peaceful? Hmmm... WWI, WWII, various other wars, a few years ago a retired CIA agent testified that the US was directly or indirectly responsible for the death of 6 million people. Very peaceful, indeed...

RE: Why

You might be optimistic with the 15c. Their managers are well paid. A friends of mine helps out a charity whose manager is on$80k, has a company car and a paid mobile phone. Looks like only people on the bottom are the only ones expected to volunteer...

RE: Why

Reducing the military budget in the world by just 10% would provide food, health and education to high school level for everyone in the world. Imagine if it was reduced by 100%...

RE: "Help"

Use a pen applause

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