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RE: Do you do drugs?

Hi, Don! You're SPECIAL!

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RE: Is it really a Disease?

You can also blame that on the "Supersize" mentality and the crap they're feeding us and the crap they're feeding our meat and putting into our produce and our dairy products, etc.

Girls these days are getting breasts and starting to menstruate MUCH sooner than they used to. It's speculated part of the reason for that is what they're putting into our food and feeding our livestock.

Plus, computer games have taken over outdoor exercise and play time.

My daughter is overweight; she carries it well, but she doesn't eat any more than most people do, and a lot less than a lot of people do. She's very active. And she's very beautiful, too.

I could stand to lose about 10 or so pounds myself. But some people can eat like pigs and not gain an ounce, some people can look at a glass of water and blow up like a balloon.

But do you also have no empathy for the cancer-ridden cigarette smoker?

dunno

RE: Is it really a Disease?

No, smoking is not a diseses, but smoking causes diseases.

RE: Is it really a Disease?

"These figures (regarding the prevalence of obesity) point to the fact that obesity is one of the most pervasive public health problems in this country, a complex, multifactorial disease of appetite regulation and energy metabolism involving genetics, physiology, biochemistry, and the neurosciences, as well as environmental, psychological, and cultural factors. Unfortunately, the lay public and health-care providers, as well as insurance companies, often view it simply as a problems of willful misconduct - eating too much and exercising too little. Obesity is a a remarkable disease in terms of the effort required by an individual for its management and the extent of discrimination its victims suffer."
Federal Trade Commission (FTC )

The Partnership for Healthy Weight Management, a coalition of organizations led by the FTC developed Voluntary Guidelines for Providers of Weight Loss Products or Services. The Partnership states:

"Obesity is a serious, chronic disease that is known to reduce life span, increase disability and lead to many serious illnesses including diabetes, heart disease, and stroke." The guidelines were established to "promote sound guidance to the general public on strategies for achieving and maintaining a healthy weight."
Maternal and Child Health Bureau

An expert committee was formed by the Maternal and Child Health Bureau, a branch of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, at a March, 1997 conference on obesity in children and adolescents. Committee members were chosen for their clinical and research experience in the field of pediatric obesity to develop guidance on assessment and treatment for physicians, nurse practitioners, dietitians/nutritionists, and others who care for overweight children. The committee stated,

"obesity represents a chronic disease," and "obesity in children and adolescents represents one of the most frustrating and difficult diseases to treat. "

World Health Organization (WHO)

A WHO Consultation on Obesity reported:

"Obesity is a chronic disease, prevalent in both developed and developing countries, and affecting children as well as adults. Indeed it is so common that it is replacing the more traditional public health concerns, including undernutrition and infectious diseases, as one of the most significant contributors to ill health."

The WHO publishes the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-9-CM), which lists Obesity and Other Hyperalimentation as an Endocrine, Nutritional, Metabolic and Immunity Disease. The ICD-9-CM is recommended for use in all clinical settings, and is required for reporting diagnoses and diseases to all U.S. Public Health Service and Health Care Financing Administration programs. The World Health Organization recently included the Metabolic Syndrome in ICD-10 (#277). Obesity is a component of the Metabolic Syndrome.
American Heart Association (AHA)

Sorry so long, but since we can't post links...

RE: Is it really a Disease?

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In a 1985 consensus statement on the Health Implications of Obesity, NIH declares:

"Formerly, obesity was considered fully explained by the single adverse behavior of inappropriate eating in the setting of attractive foods. The study of animal models of obesity, biochemical alterations in man and experimental animals, and the complex interactions of psychosocial and cultural factors that create susceptibility to human obesity indicate that this disease in man is complex and deeply rooted in biologic systems. Thus, it is almost certain that obesity has multiple causes and that there are different types of obesity."


The NIH's National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute's Clinical Guidelines on the Identification, Evaluation, and Treatment of Overweight and Obesity in Adults, state:

"Obesity is a complex, multifactorial chronic disease that develops from an interaction of genotype and the environment. Our understanding of how and why obesity develops is incomplete, but involves the integration of social, behavioral, cultural, physiological, metabolic and genetic factors."

National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine

The National Academy of Sciences' Institute of Medicine formed a committee to evaluate the treatment and prevention of obesity. In their report, Weighing the Options, the committee states:

RE: Is it really a Disease?

From the American Obesity Association:

Obesity is a Chronic Disease

The American Obesity Association (AOA) believes that obesity is a disease. We want obesity understood by the health care community and patients as a serious disease of epidemic portions.

Why do we think obesity is a disease?

First, let's define our terms. Dictionaries agree: obesity is excess body fat. It is not defined as a behavior. However, many people use the term obesity as short-hand for overeating or lack of exercise. But that is not its definition.

Consider this: most people can distinguish between smoking and lung cancer. One is a behavior and one is a disease. Or problem drinking of alcohol and liver disease. One is a behavior and one is a disease. Sunbathing without protection is a behavior; skin cancer is a disease.

Second, obesity - the excess accumulation of body fat - fits all the definitions of "disease." How is "disease" defined? Most dictionaries, general as well as medical, define a disease as an interruption, cessation or disorder of a bodily function, organ or system. Obesity certainly fits this definition.

Some dictionaries have a more precise definition. Stedman's Medical Dictionary says that to be a disease it should have at least two of the following three features:

recognized etiologic agents
identifiable signs and symptoms, and,
consistent anatomical alterations.
The "recognized etiologic agents" for obesity include social, behavioral, cultural, physiological, metabolic and genetic factors.

The "identifiable signs and symptoms" of obesity include an excess accumulation of fat or adipose tissue, an increase in the size or number of fat cells, insulin resistance, increased glucose levels, increased blood pressure, elevated cholesterol and triglyceride levels, decreased levels of high-density lipoprotein and norepinephrine and alterations in the activity of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. One is also likely to find shortness of breath and back pain.

The "consistent anatomic alteration" of obesity is the increase in body mass. Therefore, obesity meets all three of the dictionary criteria for disease.

For a medical description of obesity, see the Merck Manual.
Who Considers Obesity a Disease?

Obesity is recognized as a disease in the U.S. and internationally by government, health organizations, researchers and medical professionals.

AOA and Shape Up America!

The AOA and Shape Up America! collaborated to publish Guidance for Treatment of Adult Obesity, which states:

"Obesity is a disease afflicting millions of Americans and causing a great deal of pain and suffering. Despite evidence to the contrary, many people view obesity as a lack of willpower on the part of the individual. As a result, obese persons are frequently the object of prejudice and discrimination."

National Institutes of Health (NIH)

RE: Is it really a Disease?

Disease

A definite pathologic process with a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. It may affect the whole body or any of its parts, and its etiology, pathology, and prognosis may be known or unknown.

I don't think alcoholism is a disease, in and of itself, but it causes disease. Gambling is not a disease; it's an addiction. Or could be.

And whoever said mental illness is not a disease is dead wrong. They are discovering more and more pathological reasons for mental illness and a connection with the organic brain than they used to speculate, and it makes perfect sense. How can someone have something mentally wrong with them and not have some pathological or malfunctioning chemical process going on?

RE: Do you do drugs?

They are considered "botanical" drugs. But pot is not classfied as a botanical drug; it has no medicinal properties for the recreational user. It is a drug just like alcohol is, a mind-altering substance, and it is, contrary to popular opinion, not "good" for you. It gets you high, just like alcohol gets you drunk, but there's nothing at all physically or mentally "beneficial" about it, unless you think getting high is "beneficial." I suppose it could be, in some ways. The one thing I never did, when I smoke or drank or did any drugs, was try to argue its "healthful merits." Because there simply are none, except they're saying that a glass of wine a day might be beneficial to your circulatory system, but they also say that there are other health risks involved, so that's not really recommended.

RE: Dealing With Depression

Sounds like situational depression. Best thing to do is get out and do something...or stay in and do something - - anything you like -- just keep your mind and body active. Sitting around "wallowing in it" only makes it worse.hug

RE: Is it really a Disease?

Cancer is very often caused from smoking. Is it not a disease? Many diseases are caused from poor health and lifestyle choices.

RE: What sort of message or flower is worthy of a response?

Well, thank you very much. I'm flattered. I hope you find my comments helpful. blushing grin

RE: What sort of message or flower is worthy of a response?

What sort of emails are you sending out? I would venture to guess that you're very polite. So, if they aren't responding, it simply means they're not interested. It doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong. Not knowing, though, exactly what it is you're writing, it's hard to speculate.

RE: How Loyal Are You?

How does two of my friends being at odds with each other call my loyalty into question? The fact that they dont get along with each other is their problem, not mine, and is not a test of my loyalty. If either (or both) tried to put me in the middle of it, I'd drop either (or both) of them like a hot potato.

RE: What sort of message or flower is worthy of a response?

I agree except that I will readily admit that I don't answer every single little flower, every message, that is sent to me. I don't have the time, typically, or, I also won't respond to something that is obviously a form letter. Or a lot of times, I won't respond if the guy simply says, "Hi." If he's interested in me, then he'll take the time to introduce himself and explain his reason for writing to me.

I figure, a lot of those guys are just sending one flower after another to one woman after another, just hoping to get a "hit." Well, I don't care to be one on the dating roulette wheel. No thanks. If you like ME, you'll tell me something that makes me realize that you think I'm worthy of your time, not just say, "Hi, Beautiful," or whatever. You know?

RE: What sort of message or flower is worthy of a response?

Well, they're all worthy of a response, but I'd venture to guess--and I may be going out on a limb here--if you send someone a flower, and they don't respond to it, that they're not interested in you?



dunno

RE: why do younger men want older women and why do older women wan younger men

How would dating a younger guy make a woman "regain her youth?" I like younger guys (within my same decade, usually, if you want to call that "younger,") because they are usually a lot more handsome and stronger and typically have a lot more ambitious attitude, yet are a lot more settled than their younger counterparts. I like guys a bit younger than me, rather than older than me, because they match my energy level, ususally, like to do the things I like to do, and are intellectually stimulating (well, the ones I would be drawn to are).

Physical pleasure? Oh, hell yeah!!

Boosting their ego? If anything, going out with me should boost his. LOL. hehehe

Mommy someone? Bwa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haa haaaaa!!! Yeah, right. That'll be the day.

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RE: Punctuation?

And part of the reason that they runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn on is because of lack of punctuation, no?
Anyway, we were just having fun.

RE: Do you do drugs?

Great. Think about that next time you fire up that Bong o' Broccoli.

RE: Punctuation?

Oh, I just figured I'd leave it wide open for you to explore on your own, that's all.

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RE: Punctuation?

You're most welcome, Paws. Jean.

RE: Punctuation?

Be my guest. Ha ha..Sheila made a funny.

dancing

RE: Attitudes!

I'm a perimenopausal Gemini. Therefore, I can get away with a lot of shi*.

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RE: Punctuation?

Generally, use "bring" when you're bringing something to somewhere and "take" when you're taking something away from somewhere.

You would say to someone, "Could you please take me to the store?" not "Could you please bring me to the store?"

But, you would also say, "You are invited to my house for dinner. You're welcome to bring a guest." You wouldn't say, "You're welcome to take a guest." Although, I suppose, if you wanted to take a guest, you could. I'm not going to stand in your way.

In the first instance, the action is being directed from your location; in the second, it's being directed toward your location.

Simple as that! wink grin

RE: Punctuation?

LOL..I quoted from a website.

Also, that's MENSA and trust me, I'm nowhere near MENSA material.

But thanks anyway.

RE: Punctuation?

How someone performs in bed is hardly the measure by which to choose a lifelong mate. Am I going to spend an hour with him? He could be an imbecile, for all I care, so long as he keeps his mouth shut. Well, not shut, but so long as he doesn't speak. hehehe

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RE: Punctuation?

That one is somewhat ambiguous, because it depends on various factors.

"Bring and take. When do you use bring and when do you use take? It depends on your point of view. We use bring to indicate motion toward the place of speaking or the place from which the action is regarded. Thus you normally take checks to the bank and bring home cash, although from the banker’s perspective you have brought checks to the bank in order to take away cash.
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"When the point of reference is not the place of speaking itself, you can use either verb depending on the context. Thus you can say either The labor leaders brought their requests to the mayor’s office or The labor leaders took their requests to the mayor’s office depending on whether you want to describe things from the point of view of the labor leaders or the mayor. Perhaps for this reason, the distinction between bring and take is sometimes less clear than you might expect. A parent may say of a child, for example, She always takes a pile of books home with her from school, as the parent imagines the situation from the child’s viewpoint. This usage may sound curious to those who are accustomed to observe the distinction more strictly, but there is really nothing wrong with it."

RE: Punctuation?

Being lax just for the hell of it is one thing. I correct puncutuation and do editing all day, so I'm sure not going to worry about every little comma here. But...the way one expresses themselves through writing is how we communicate here in these forums and, therefore, they're not "just words" on a screen; they show a lot about the person's ability to communicate effectively. Or their lack of that ability. Maybe that wouldn't matter to someone else, but I, for one, would be completely bored with a man who couldn't manage a simple task like basic punctuation. But it's not just lack of puncutation; it's also gross errors in spelling, syntax, etc. The way one writes says a LOT about a person, actually.

RE: Fallng in love should it be fast or slow

I believe in falling in love, most assuredly.

But, first, if you don't mind, I'm going to have you ask you to fill out some forms. In triplicate. Sign here, here, here, here and ...oh, yes ... here.

Then take the forms and fold them neatly and place in a self-addressed, stamped, business-sized envelope, with a check or money order for $10 (non-refundable) payable to me (address shown below), and a statement informing me of your intent to be faithful and a promise to not break my heart.

Any deviation from these instructions will result in immediate forfeiture of your name from the list.

Any questions, please call 1 800 000-0000. Thank you, and have a pleasant evening.wave

RE: Touchy subject. Who initiated your divorce, you or your ex ?

My ex did, the moment he broke the marriage vows by cheating on me.

RE: Punctuation?

Actually, he should have used a semicolon or a period, not a comma.

You are all so smart; thank you.

Or...

You are all so smart. Thank you.

Not that I noticed.

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