RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

I agree that terrorists should be eradicated, but that should be done by the local people. In WW2 it was the locals that were fighting, even without the weapons, the Germans throughout Europe. Who will fight in ME when all the healthy young men (looks at the vids and pics of refugees) flee to Europe? I strongly believe the Europeans and the Americans should have stayed out of ME and north Africa, their stupidity contributed greatly to the crisis in Syria, Libya (cannot be bothered to check the spelling, sorry). However, the bottom line is that the crisis in that part of the world can only be solved by the locals, but are they willing? Hmmm, not sure.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

The UN is a laugh - no one can expect the numerous UN Muslim countries to do anything to sort out the mess in their part of the world.

And their problems are going to be transferred elsewhere, i.e. Europe. BTW everyone knows which the rich Arab countries are (a person here pretended not to understand) and even if they have a different type of Islam, that does not justifies their complete absence from the relief efforts. If Christian Europe helps the rich Arab countries should too and provide even more assistance because after all they share the same culture and values with the refugees unlike Europeans.

Global problem? No, the problem is in the Middle East, they should stop living in the 6th century.

As for the Germans: Merkel has already started twisting the arms of poor Balkan countries saying that they should deal with the refugees. Of course, in the EU there is only one thing you can do when Merkel says something and that is to do exactly what she says. Ask the Greeks and the rest of the poor EU countries! How will these countries deal with refugees when they cannot feed their own? (stop taking my rhetorical questions literally) Each country is first and foremost responsible to its own people.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Yeah maybe you should do make use of google a bit more. I live in the EU and certainly know more about what is happening here than you.

As for Turkey - of course there are many more refugees there / it is a neighboring country for god's sake! And you are right refugees want a better life - in Europe they get apartments and all the welfare benefits, which many times amount to much more than the autoctonous population gets. The refugees then get the citizenship - they never go back - isn't this in contradiction with the meaning of "a refugee"?None of this would be a problem though if the numbers were not so high, but what is happening now is completely crazy and completely unsustainable. Europe should either close the borders or change the policy and provide the bare minimum as does Turkey.

As for the RICH ARAB countries: they do not accept any refugees, they do not give any money. Why should Christian Europe accept the refugees if they don't?
It is high time the people in that part of the world took the responsibility for themselves, with the conflicts piling up over there, Europe (the West) cannot help them all. Plus do not forget that the EU countries has also been sending money to help out the refugees in the neighboring areas all the time.

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

I live in the EU. It does not matter that my country is not that attractive to the refugees, but if Germany and the other wefare states go down, the EU goes down - ergo it does affect me. (FWY - my country has never been in the Eastern bloc)

RE: Germany: Sympathetic to all Syrian Refugees

Yeah, blame it on the West.

As for the numbers: what is Turkey providing the refugees with? isn't Turkey closer to the conflict area? What do the refugees get in Europe? Of course, they never leave and return to their own countries afterwards, wonder why?

Why isn't anybody asking the oil rich Arab countries to chip in? Oh, I know, they need to spend their dollars on lavish palaces and skiing slopes in the middle of the desert...not to forget on building mosques in Europe....no money not space for the refugees then.

RE: TRUMP WANTS MORE CHRISTIAN IMMIGRATION

His current wife is from Slovenia....a Christian immigrant :)

RE: Your Country

SLOVENIA

One of the smallest but cutest in Europe (plus it is still very safe




RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Thanks Lolette. Didn't realize you were from the Philippines :)

BTW well written post and I do agree with you that the Greeks should take hold of their own country - dump the EU, I say :)

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

I was right when once I said here that the EU politicians seem the Greek "leftist" government as a bigger problem than the Greek debt. Hate to be right:



Asolutely disgusting

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

I know. I like the man more and more, it is a pity that Tsipras turned to be so weak. Maybe he will be remembered as "an electoral mistake" as that crazy Belgian EU Parliment member told him (Van...something, cannot remember :))

I wonder why so many Greeks still want to stay in the EU????

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Didn't somebody say that if Greece left the Eurozone, there would be instability? I am sure the Greeks people will be very "happy" with more austerity, like I said the EU goal to remove the leftist Greek government is about to be reached.

Read these excellent articles:

- the wrongdoings of the ECB


- the crisis of democracy

NO more social Europe, the crude capitalism has won! It is Greece now, who is next?

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Just heard thet the EU has not reached a compromise with Tsipras yet. The EU is not happy so they continue to twist the knife into Greece. To me it seems that their biggest problem is Tsipras and his "leftist" government.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Exactly! I was hoping the Greeks will lead the way out of the euro prison, but....

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Stiglitz and other MAerican economists think differently and can see their point - the exit from euro zone would eventually give the greek government the instruments needed to control their own finances (inflation, devaluation....) - staying in the euro zone means that someone will continue having the control.

As for the rise of nationalism or the military coup, hmmm I think this is definitely possible also with no exit from the euro. The measures that Tsipras agreed to introduce will cause the unsatisfaction of the people and then everythign is possible.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

I am afraid you misunderstood me. I was talking about translation (written form of translating from one language to another) of a text. And interpretation - this is spoken consequtive or simultaneous translation during meetings, conferences etc. so again from one language to another.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

And an interesting thing about the interpreting services: there is a limit to the number of women employed, not sure, if I am not mistaken it is 40% tops. The limit ensures that the profession is not looked at as a women's profession. If it were, the salaries would go down.

Horrible, isn't it?

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Wanted to add something about the translation of documents: based on the decision that all languages are equal, absolutely everything is translated in all the official languages. There is a huuuuge battalion of translators and interpreters working for the EU. It usually works this way: documents appear in the major languages first (as there are most translators for those), then they are translated into smaller languages, but all the copies have equal weight.

We can only imagine how much money is spent on transation and interpreting services.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

It is so sad Tsipras has given in to the EU technocrats. I completely agree with Joseph Stieglitz, the NObel prize winner in economy, that it would be better for Greece to exit the Euro and do what Argentina did. Declaring bankrupcy would be harsh, but in the long run it would be better than what this current status is offering.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Not true. All written documents in the EU are written in English and French and all the other official languages. I know this for sure as I have a friend who workd for the translation office in Luxemburgh.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Hopefully, otherwise we will have "African" countries in Europe.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

I am sorry my fellow female companion in this forum thread but I agree completely that Germany and France rule the EU. Look what is happening now with Greece and the Euro - it is what Merkel says. What happened a while ago when the EU commission warned France about some budgetary matters? Hollande did what he wanted to do and even said that the commission cannot tell France what to do. What happens when the commission says the same to a small / insignificant / unimportant country? I can answer that as it has happened also here in Slovenia: we say, yes master, we will do as told!

RE: Bye bye Greece

Frankly speaking, I do not see any difference between the EU technocrats with Merkel in the lead and the two other choices you mention.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

NO vote seems to be in the lead.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Very true Lollete, the bail out money bailed out German and French banks not Greece. What an absurd world we are living in help

Just watched the news on France 24 English, more than 30% turn out in the morning hours only - the minimum of 40% have to vote for the referendum to be valid.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

The same here. I am even more insterested as my country has also been under constant pressure - constant reforms, austerity measures - and I am fed u with that. If there were results, I wouldn't say a word, but....

Cheers Lollete cheers

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

thumbs up

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

Obviously, what they owe to Slovenia has been left out.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

my previous post is a reply to lollete.

Sorry Lolette wave

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

I completely agree that their leaders have been incompetent, but it is not the current government's fault - and it seems this gvt is what the EU bureaucrats, Merkel and co. are most bothered by at the moment. Merkel and co. are equally to blame for the crisis, they let Greece enter the Europezone knowing that they did not meet the requirements. Germand a French banks profited from Greece and then when the hell broke loose they got their money back!!!! Aren't the banks to take the risk when they loan the money?

Plus the analyses you mention - highly doubtful. It is only now that the IMF admits that the austerity measures cannot bring any positive results! Anyone with a little bit of brains knew that from the beginning. And what is EU doing now? They stick to the plan regardless of the conseqences.

RE: Draconian measaures on Greece by the EU.

If this is what has been spent on the bail out, Slovenia is missing and we will be hit the most - what we have give is more than 3% of our GDP (according to Financial Times)

Still I root for NO as I have had enough of the arrogant EU bureaucrats. EU bureaucrats don't have a clue what democracy is and they don't give a damn for anyone but themselves and their big fat salaries.

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