RE: Obama or Romney for President: simple vote here. one vote only. ;-}

Oh please... and the GOP is trying to get every possible progressive invalidated at the polls. roll eyes

RE: From where, whom..... 2012 USA Presidential Candidates Get Their Money?

Hell Soros is only worth a measly $19B this year. You should be happier with the Koch bros or the Walton family who have pretty much destroyed small town America?

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

Here's a clue..... they ALL lie, you have no government or any politician in your corner... we've been bought, privatized and deregulated to the point that you as an ordinary citizen are completely trivial and expendable except at voting time... and not even that makes much difference to the flow of their greed.

It's better dying through chemistry, bribery and fat, organized and ethic-less cats controlling everything on the planet, your blindly supporting the madness just makes you another sheep. dunno

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

Oh and this one:

It's the same old follow the money game... and oddly enough it always seems to flow in a circle between Big business and Washington.. duh.

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

No one mentioned Iraq or Afghanistan... but the military costs as a whole, but as for those, they've gone up and down over these years.



But as you seem pro invasion of the rest of the world by America by the Israeli system of coercion to the detriment of MOST Americans.. any excessive number should be a good number for you as the 'rule the world' and 'spread more lies' fan club. dunno

But frankly I have a life and am not spending hours finding a compendium irrefutable facts that you wouldn't read, let alone accept anyway as my complete raison d'etre.... unlike some on here who don't seem to know the difference between right and wrong.

If something happens to pop onto my monitor that I find interesting while I'm waiting for a load of laundry to finish, I may post it.

Like this for example:

roll eyes

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

Hey, you started it with the Italy jibe dipstick. tongue

3%? Gosh really, yah think?



So 24% projected for this year... that they claim is what we're spending.. of course there is that little piece of the pie called 'other', at that it is still the largest portion of our federal taxes used, instead of diverting those funds towards the good of actual American citizens. And yet....



505 NEW BASES throughout the world? I wouldn't think that those are exactly chump change. “Due to government secrecy, our citizens are often ignorant of the fact that our garrisons encircle the planet. This vast network of American bases on every continent except Antarctica actually constitutes a new form of empire -- an empire of bases with its own geography not likely to be taught in any high school geography class. Without grasping the dimensions of this globe-girdling Baseworld, one can't begin to understand the size and nature of our imperial aspirations or the degree to which a new kind of militarism is undermining our constitutional order.”



"There is no such thing as a free lunch, and there is no such thing as a free war. The Iraq adventure has seriously weakened the U.S. economy, whose woes now go far beyond loose mortgage lending. You can't spend $3 trillion -- yes, $3 trillion -- on a failed war abroad and not feel the pain at home."

FYI:

Btw this is only the list of contractors for US bases, nowhere does it mention those profiting from the 505 new overseas bases. Or the privatization of the military with mercenaries and private contractors within the military doing what our soldiers used to be trained to do, now they just point, shoot and get blown up... so who is paying them???

Sounds like nose butting for profit and control has become our national mantra...ay? I'd sure call that an Imperialistic plan to the benefit of the least, at a high price to those footing the bill.

scold

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

... and there it is, no matter what names you guys want tack onto us.

I agree with Boban, these simple things are what make a civil society where all can flourish.

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

I think it sorta kinda works in Sweden... but they won't admit it. wink

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

Well we're heading in exactly the same direction.

"Here’s what the latest census data tell us: in 2011, the middle class shrank to “an all-time low” (as the Washington Post headline had it), while the income of the wealthiest Americans continued to climb. The poverty rate leveled off at a still shuddering 15%, with more than one of every five Americans under eighteen living in poverty. The Gini Index, a measure of income inequality, rose by 1.6%, the “biggest one-year increase in almost two decades.”

In a way, of course, this should be no news at all. Middle-class wealth has taken a staggering hit since the economic meltdown of 2007 (and African American and Hispanic wealth has gone through the floor). This disaster, linked to the Great Recession, has had a sideline effect. On the theory that what goes up must come down, money flooding out of American households and into the coffers of the incredibly wealthy and their corporate cronies has also been flowing back down in tidal amounts. It’s been pouring biblically into this season’s political campaign.

The news out of the dog days of August, for example, was that the Obama and Romney campaigns had raised a total of more than $225 million dollars that month alone. (In the 1984 presidential campaign between Ronald Reagan and Walter Mondale, the two candidates raised a “mere” $202 million during that whole election season!)"


The price of facilitating buying government lackeys for the greedy to get more gold instead of giving a damn about their country.... that Oh so handy loyalty to their bottom lines instead of to the citizens of what used to be the America whose former rights and privileges to everyone, allowed them to become wealthy in the first place... and they dare mention the word patriot... or CHRISTIAN?

Not that we've heard much of that lately.. guess it's getting too close to the wire to waste time on that phony advertising ploy used to suck in the moronic rubes. So now it's just more of the 1% angst that their bloated profits might take a hit if they can't dump enough money in time, into their poster boys campaign. roll eyes



Shame.

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

thumbs up handshake

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

G'morning Bubba coffee cool

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

When he starts paying 35% taxes on all his monies instead of the 15% on what he lets the gov see, then we can talk about who thinks they're entitled. Might I add that ignorant morons exist in every socio-economic level. roll eyes

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

There are very few US lives wasted even now in proportion to the population or the issues at hand or.. that anyone seems to care... and you know that we won't keep our noses out of that business either... more of that before, during and after "Peacekeeping" that we seem to be so good at claiming as our intent. sigh

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

And you're in Canada and a Canadian citizen, it shouldn't be any of your damn business. confused

I certainly know to whom I'm paying the taxes that my country squanders on trumped up wars and welfare for the rich.

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

Yeah well I'm a United States citizen not an Israeli.... and oddly enough think that MY President should watching out for MY welfare, not Israels... silly I'm sure thinking that the money and lives would be better spent thinking about my and my childrens interests... like we're not enough tangled debt as it is???? doh

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

This is so true of course.... but I've chosen the classic 'lesser of 2 evils' of the deck that's been dealt.. and hoping he'll grow some balls. frustrated

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

I know I know... but sometimes he hits the nail right on the head. hmmm

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

cheers Don't go spreading any facts now V. roll eyes

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

confused Happy now?

RE: Opaque transparency the O Admin lies

.... and to think there is any difference between who is president, rep or dem... or that they actually rule your country these days or that you have a say in absolutely anything? Nope, not so... the game has already been rigged and guess what? You won't be the winner.

RE: Opaque transparency the O Admin lies

The power is in the hands of the mega corps and you are just the lied to, propaganda fed sheep.
Now say Bahhh nicely.. you guys certainly have for quite awhile now. sheep

RE: why ordinary Americans love obama?

Obama 'radicals'?.... now there's an oxymoron. I think you have them confused with some other party. roll eyes

RE: Why Billionaires are bankrolling Mitt Romney

Oh and do watch the piece on the puppetmaster Carl Rove after the segment on the corruption in our supreme court on Bill Moyers.... that's also a good heads up on the manipulations you've been victim to. mumbling

RE: Why Billionaires are bankrolling Mitt Romney



Uh duh.... why wouldn't they? crazy



dunno

You are whose lies you want to believe. cool

RE: Where the Americans tax payer money goes to?

RE: Where the Americans tax payer money goes to?

It's simply a question of following the money, because that is what all this is about... it really doesn't matter what country or whose citizens or the illusion of 'morals' of whatever wars and how many people die for the sake of someones profit... well, and power.

Until the average American realizes that this is why even they have less and less..less jobs, services, rights, that their government is owned by the deepest pockets who have deregulated us to death, that they've been sold down the same river of woe that the rest of the worlds victims have been.... there will be no change... a unified outrage is required.

The last 20 years have been nothing but a financial feeding frenzy of a few and to hell with anyone and everyone else.







Unfortunately at this point, humanity has become disposable.

RE: Supreme Court upholds Obamacare

Hmmm... I don't know why that didn't copy properly, try copy/pasting to google, you'll get there eventually.

But here's another:

But as you can see, we pay the most for the least care. While they say hospitals can't deny you emergency care.... you will be billed at twice or more the insurance rate for the same procedure and whatever post checks or rehabilitation that might be required.

Article from 2009:

RE: Supreme Court upholds Obamacare

RE: Supreme Court upholds Obamacare



"The striking thing here is that Murdoch also controls about one third of the US Media, vertically integrated across network and cable TV properties, newspapers, movie studios, book publishing and the internet. For the corporate news media pundits and politicians to ignore what is going on in the UK, and to not point to the obvious parallels between Murdoch’s techniques in the two countries is extraordinary. He literally brainwashes 30% of the US, demands who knows what from politicians, and the public hears not a peep."

wave Does this sound familiar Venus? Frankly we've all been sold a load of crap, did you know that Murdock owns 1/3 of the media in the US other than the infamously misdirecting Fox News, not to mention the Wall St. Journal and then there is the UK media.. and now working on the far east? Hey being a media mogul can sure come in handy if you want to 'toy' with altering peoples opinions. wink





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