'Trump is killing his own supporters' – even White House insiders know it



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In The Guardian

Title = 'Trump is killing his own supporters' – even White House insiders know it
by Lloyd Green
D - You are the all-time champion of lame excuses.

laugh

They were cheering, because he attempted to get the 100 sailors medical attention that they needed.
No...you are incorrect...shipping was halted...period...thanks to Trump...not reading Fox News...lol...laugh
LL - Initially Trump told the governors, that they had to get supplies themselves, rather than from the federal government. So, the governors were bidding against each other for the limited supplies and having to pay a lot more for them, than if the federal government bought them in bulk and re-sold them at the price they got them. Plus, the federal government could have gotten a far better rate than original price for buying in bulk. Trump caused a circus and lack of supplies for the losing bidders.
Not too likely jim. Those ships have full fledged hospitals and staff. The admiral would have made contact with absolute secure channels in place at the first reasonable sign of real trouble and PROPER port.

That's something addressed at the top levels only.
The danger is that the medical system will be overwhelmed. On the tenth anniversary of Obamacare, universal health care remains contentious in the United States – undermined by the Republicans, who have tried repeatedly to abolish it, and repeatedly challenged in the courts.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW

In Canada, a country of 37 million, there were some 2,100 cases and 24 deaths as of early Tuesday. The system is holding, for now. Hospitals have enough masks and respirators, for now. The prime minister appears in public every day, alone, outside his residence. He speaks sensibly, with authority, without hyperbole. This has been his finest hour.

Canadians trust him. They may not have voted for him – only about one-third did – but that doesn’t matter now. Nor do we question the competence of his ministers who are the other faces of the crisis – Chrystia Freeland, Marc Garneau, Patty Hajdu, Bill Blair. All are calm, competent and professional. This is what we want.
It's a question of how much more of the needful things are outsourced in the U.S. that shouldn't be.


Reading up on supplies, it seems like most of ours have been outsourced for a long time and shipped in to us. That's a big mistake in any country unless it's one of your key exports.
It didn't help when they started the people to panic which drove them to buying every thing they could.
Dragon

It means that your President knows nothing...he has no business in politics...why bite the hand that feeds you...

In time of unity...Canada has stepped up to the plate...we are one...not divided...wine
We have the 3rd largest population in the world.

We'll have an over haul of preparedness after this for certain. I've never read up on when so much was shut down across the globe for a pandemic.

I know there have been past travel bans and select countries here and there.
Most people are respectful of social distancing...we have many here who praise work from healthcare workers...at 7 pm...there are many hands clapping and pots banging for our efforts...

Working together as one...no politics...wine
lou, all you have to do is look to our congress. All it's done is put a bullseye on his back since day one.

They haven't actually done much for the country. they've been too concerned about pandering every where else but not focused here where they're supposed to be.

Where were they when the travel bans were started? That's what we have for a "governing" body. The president has control of foreign policy and anything he can get congress to actually take up in their proceedings.

That's not where they've been. The house has been focused on getting him out, not the country.
One other thing lou, obozocare was never about healthcare. It was never passed as healthcare and the laws and regulations actually hurt our system. That's what it was fed to the people as to get them to buy into it.

It was passed for what it was, a tax bill. A big one.

I can't begin to describe to you what some of my relatives say patients are going with out and at risk of being cut off from because of that bill. Sometimes a couple of them are in tears because of the "laws" and power granted to the companies that provide the "care".
I absolutely commend one of them.

She should finish up next year with honors for administration so she can be more at the top instead of one following orders or having to fight tooth and nail for some of her patients.
This is one of the videos from the ship as Captain Crozier left:



Crew are chanting his name and clapping a rhythm in a way I would associate with the social etiquette of personal and directed support.

If the crew wanted to support his removal without booing, or making support for his removal obvious in another way, they could have just clapped randomly as an audience would to show their approval. That would have created an ambiguous message as to whether they were supporting the captain, or his removal.

They clearly haven't created an ambiguous message. They are clearly supporting their captain.

Anyone who has ever served, or anyone who has ever served during peacetime with a potentially lethal virus raging through their confined, overcrowded ship?

There is a greater, global common enemy at the moment, Dragonaer. It changes things.
A quick google and it looks to me that there has been quite a lot of research carried out by universities and investigations by other other bodies regarding voter fraud.

The consensus of opinion appears to be that it is so rare that it does not impact upon final election results.

It's rarity might also account for why you've only heard of a few states prosecuting here and there.

One issue that does impact upon election results is declaring that certain government issued identity documents aren't government issued enough.

When government issued identity documentation held by those living in social housing is disallowed and offices issuing driver licences in poor areas are closed in the run up to elections, a stratum of the population is excluded who could potentially have an impact upon outcome. Perhaps one might review the concept of voter fraud.

If an entire population is excluded from voting by a combination of quarantine and withholding remote voting, one might also review the possibility of a wannabe dictator realising his dreams.
The poor dumb captain.

He broke laws, not just protocol. The military has it's laws too.

Don't worry jacs I saw some videos already.

Firing him was the right thing to do. They lack for little to nothing on those ships as well as not long. All he needed to do was contact his chain of command. His immediate superior was on board and reports indicate help was already on the way.

You'll have to look those up because they won't be aired much quite yet.They can milk too much junk from it the way it is now.


Even now, peace time or other, the channels and actions that should be taken do not change. Those steps are all consistent. You only go over the head of another if necessary and it's not a bunch of letters to every one and their brother.

So I suppose letting the crew leave the ship during a pandemic, that he's going to skip the chain of command and writer letters all over the place, is a good thing too? I guess it doesn't change enough. Does it?
Trump and acting Sec. Navy seem to agree with you Jim. One resigned and the other knows he is a national
disgrace.barf
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