Trump Disquaified

"The Colorado supreme court on Tuesday declared Donald Trump ineligible to hold office again under the US constitution’s insurrection clause."



Of course Trump will appeal to the Supreme Court, but as he has threatened their continued existence, I'd be very surprised if they favoured Judge Wallace's bizarre ruling over his disquaification.
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First off, Trump has not had a trial yet that declared him guilty.

There are a few interpretations by lawyers that say the way the clause is written, a trial isn't required. However, the outcome of the January 6th committee recommended criminal charges for former President Donald Trump for his role in the Capitol insurrection and released the initial summary of its final report.

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


He did not tell them enter and take over. That was the Proud Boys militia...

Trump said "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore." Did that need more explanation/clarification?
I am wondering how extensible, if at all, a Colorado ruling is to other states. Can the opinion of a single state SC judge be taken as a given in any other state? I am inclined to guess not. It might have bearing and some weight, but I imagine any other state judge would have to repeat the Jan6 evaluation themselves. I have serious doubts that SCOA is going to support this judgement.
I will post a blog to respond this! wink banana
With the members of the SCOA being yes men to Trump, the outcome is irrelevant in reality.

They all want to ensure their career by cosying up to Trump, as, if you believe the polls, Trump is still in the lead, none gives a rat's arse for truth or justice.

The other states thinking about 14/3 are looking at other means to invoke it, which will give the SCOA quite a headache.
The courts have always been involved in the creation, or perhaps more properly, the development of law.

That's why every ruling is littered with citations of precedent and the Trump legal team are failing miserably without, or with misappropriated precedent citations. It's the rulings established by the courts that guide the precise meaning of the law.

The Supreme Court is on a par, or above the office of president. The Supreme Court gets the final decision on whether an action is lawful/constitutional, or not. Otherwise, the president, or congress could set rules (as Trump has said he will if he regains power) that will turn the US into a dictatorship like Russia and North Korea.

The courts are your last line of defense with respect to maintaining your Democratic Republic and avoiding dictatorial, or autocratic rule. You not only have a responsibility to maintain your democracy for yourselves, but for the rest of the world, too.

Disruption shouldn't be supported indiscriminately, nor for the sake of it. Even most teenagers support disruption with a purpose. Trump's is more Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
Am I the only person who thinks the self-preservation move for the Supreme Court is to uphold the Colorado disqualification ruling which would then be applicable to every state?

The other alternative would be to rescind the case back to the Colorado courts and allow a state by state, chaotic process until such a time as Trump is convicted on the conspiracy charges in Washington before disquaifying him.

If the Supreme Court rules that he's qualified to run, they may be signing their own career and US democracy death sentence. Trump has made it clear if he regains power that he will have the self-appointed right to terminate the current system incuding the constitution.
To answer the first part above the SCOTUS will have to show plausible reasons for it's decision.

This also covers your 2nd part.

Presidential Executive Orders are subject to judicial rewiew (SCOTUS) and must be supported by statute or the Constitution. Also it is pre-determined that the President can't change the integrity of the Constitution and the changes must be in the interests of the US.
(Pssst - does your keyboard have a dicky L?). SC Justices have life tenure, and can only be ousted by impeachment, requiring 2/3 of Congress to vote guilty. Trump cannot remove them. Judge(s) have been impeached and removed for drunkenness/insanity but that's about it. England and Australia at least have non-political appointment and removal of the judiciary, unlike America where removal is also in the hands of the politicians.
Trump is just bragging, talking through his hat boasting of tearing down the Constitution.
Yes, that's how it works in the US democratic republic, but the democratic republic only works for as long as the rules, laws and constitution are adhered to.

The Trump inspired insurrection was not a part of the democratic process. Trump has hinted and directly stated that if he regains power he will not abide by the democratic processes in a number of different ways. He has refused to pubicly confirm that he won't be a dictator, just as he refused to confirm the peaceful transfer of power all those years ago.

Time and time again Trump has made statements of his undemocratic intent and has actioned them.

What will it take for people to realise that if Trump regains power it will confirm to him that he can do exactly as he pleases.



Why would he tolerate the Supreme Court having a say in his executive orders, especially after they 'disloyally' dismissed every single election fraud appeal he made to them?
I have several dicky letters, but I'm more likely miss the L's when proof reading.

SC Justices can be removed by imprisoning, or shooting them.

My mother remembered being carried and my grandmother's feet bleeding as she ran through the streets because there was no time to put on her shoes. Nobility is not a protection against men with guns and we all have the same status when naked on a mortuary slab.
I don't know if he or you explained how he would go about 'changing everything' but I suggest that he start with the power of "signing into law".

The POTUS isn't involved in finalising legislation originating from Congress, it bypasses him. So he should get that sorted out.

He could also get lawyers working on test cases to challenge the constitutionality of the current laws that he wants to scrap.

All this would take time though which he doesn't have.

I think it would be appropriate for you to give us something more solid than a hunch that Trump will start a campaign of destruction of democracy. I've given you a start.
Umm, J6?
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