What is the final disposition of Trump’s $350 Million fine?

He will appeal. And maybe get a JURY this time rather than one hating Judge. Welcome to the One World Order and the return of the feudal system. The rich live in their palaces on top of the hill, look down on the village huts they own and rent to the workers who work in the businesses the rich own and buy from the rich. Hey Tennessee Ford, sing it again. " Lord don-cha call me cause I cant go..I own my soul to the company store."
Thats all good. Once those illegal gangs destroy all the stores and drive out the people, the rich can take over. And employ the gangs to control the masses. At least those that the spike protein hasn't killed off.

He did nothing illegal.

If no laws were broken then this is indeed a sham case.

There are no juries in US appellate courts.

If you don't know how your own judicial system works, how can you decide what is right, or wrong within it?

My two questions are: where is Trump going to get the money from to appeal and on what grounds is he going to appeal?

If he goes to a five judge panel and rehashes the arguments Judge Engoron has already rejected, they will likely be considered to have no merit again. Team Trump hasn't brought any particularly astute material to the table as yet as far as I can see.

Bear in mind, Judge Engoron bypassed his original summary judgement ruling to liquidate the Trump Organisation by handing that power to the independent monitor Barbara Jones, should she see fit to do so in the future. That might have been their ace card for appeal and it no longer exists.

If Team Trump opts for attacking the judge as you have, the appellate court will likely see that for what it is.

Have you any idea how he's going to stump up the $455M+interest to be held in order to appeal, never mind pay lawyers? He has stated he has $400M cash, there's $27M left in his campaign funds that he's been questionably using to pay lawyers, he has lost his business licence, he has an independent monitor overseeing the Trump Organisation who would have to approve liquidating assets and withdrawing funds, he has the first of his criminal trials starting in about five weeks with it's own resource needs...and as far as I know, he has yet to stump up the $83.3M+interest to appeal the second defamation suit half way through his 30 day window to appeal.

If the RNC is foolish enough to install Lara Trump as it's leader so Trump can milk it for his legal costs, there'll be no campaign funds left for other Republicans. How is that going to work with the election less than nine months away?

I'm not sure expecting people like yourself to pay his costs, or selling gold coloured trainers at $399 a pop at the Sneaker Conference (where the jeers drowned out the cheers) are going to make much of a dent in the $500M+ he needs to appeal.

Given Trump posted the full $5+ to appeal the first E. Jean Carroll defamation verdict, what's the chances of a company backing a 10% bond given Trump is an adjudicated financial fraud with a history of not paying what he owes? I'm guessing Barbara Jones would have to guarantee the excess $450M+, but is she likely to do that if there aren't likely successful grounds for appeal? Doesn't she have a duty to manage Trump Organisation assets effectively and appropriately?

It seems to me that there's a lot of talk about Trump appealing everything, but little about how.

*$5M+

What is the final disposition of Trump’s $350 Million fine?

Most fine revenue goes into a general fund at the state or municipal level. I think.

What does the word 'disposition' mean to you?

I asked what the word 'disposition' meant to you, the actual word.

The definition of the word 'disposition'.

Agreed with Trump about what?

I'm pretty sure one lender testified that they more, or less halved Trump's claimed asset total and it still wasn't enough to reflect the level of fraudulent over-inflation.

If you want to kick a puppy and I agree with you that the puppy deserves a good kicking, does that make it legal to abuse the animal?

Or does it make me complicit in animal abuse if I support and encourage your actions?

You can't refute the argument, then.

I'm glad you got the point.

I refer you the comment that was a reply to you anyway:

So, your answer, at least in one instance, appears to be 'piss poorly'.

Perhaps there needs to be a review of how lenders make their own assessments. Clearly, assuming every customer lies and halving the claimed assets is a very risky practise.

Oh yeah, you didn't explain what the banks agreed with Trump about.

You're right, I'm just going by a snippet that was said under oath.

First off, it's not Trump's money. That's the point of a Disgorgement Order.

Trump engorged himself and his business empire through fraud; the law allows for disgorgement.

The thing is, Trump's claims of being a multi-billionaire are largely based upon his assets. If he sells a property he'll have to pay capital gains tax, transfer costs, any mortgage on the property, etc.

Anything brand based might be difficult to shift, like his 7.79 million shares in his media outlet, given there are already companies backing away from any association with the Trump name.

The $5M+ held on bond will go to E. Jean Carroll assuming Trump's appeal flops.

The remaining $500M+ might not get paid in full even if Barbara Jones puts the Trump Organisation into liquidation, but as there'll be taxes going back into the state and federal coffers, maybe that will make up for it in a round-about way.

I don't suppose E. Jean Carroll will see much of the $83M+ except, assuming Trump can't, or won't stump up the amount plus interest to appeal, she can start the process of collecting the award in 17 days time. There may be some advantage for her in the timing and amount given Trump stated to the court that he has $400M cash.

Not that getting the money was the point: the size of the defamation award was to shut Trump up, which it did.

It's notable that you're contending the amount of the Disgorgement Order, but not disputing the adjudicated persistent fraud.

Have you got any calculations for that, Conrad, or is it just a gut reaction to the enormity of the award?

Only I don't think, "Golly, that's a whopper!" is grounds for appeal, neither is, "S'not fair!"

I'm not sure openly campaigning on the promise to put a loathsome fraud in his rightful place is grounds to appeal adjudicated fraud, either.

If James had brought charges frivolously, that would be different, but given the evidence was so compelling one charge was adjudicated by summary judgement and the other seven successfully tried, your attempt at claiming victimisation is moot.

I got my dates wrong.

Carroll can start collecting the $83M+ on the 25th February.

If Trump hasn't placed the award in escrow, or found a company to post it on bond within the next three days, then he isn't appealing the verdict.