Depression' The Reasons. (159)

Aug 29, 2011 6:57 PM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Rocksmith
RocksmithRocksmithLoch Sport / Gippsland, Victoria Australia8 Threads 1 Polls 1,170 Posts
In response to: They say that there has never been so many people in Aus suffering from Depression in fact its nearly an epidemic.

WHY....To get started look at the media for instance Newspaper's and TV are the main culprits.
Every where you look is mayhem and misery the more the better.

I do not agree with reporting the continual pain of others ....like going into detail about how they feel all the time especially like the Danial Morcombe murder getting the parents to give press conferences draining every feeling they can out of them,its so cruel.

When those 8 children and relations were burnt to death in that house fire the mourners even stopped the search of the last two bodies so they could appear on TV to talk about their pain and grieving without a thought for those brave men and woman looking for them.....surely they could have done that when the last two bodies were retrieved.

I now feel guilty for even bring that up but why do the public want to see that ?

Remember Lady Di's death and funeral ! day in day out could not believe it.....people sobbing their eyes out ...Why for goodness sake she wasent a close friend or relative (mass hysteria)once again the herd syndrome.

And I have touched on only the tip of the iceburg.

What is it that is in lot of us to prefer bad news to good.????? also seeing people stop to look at an accident hoping to see a dead or maimed body.

Haven't we got enough to contend with without the brainwashing that goes on from the Media 24 hours a day.

Dont get me wrong! I just cannot understand it going on and on until something newer comes up,then the previous story is dropped like a hot potato leaving behind utter confusion sometimes.

The Media stated a long time ago that if it printed or showed much good news it would hardly sell a paper or get an audience.


Talk about a story being droped like a hot potato, remember the royale wedding Kate and will. It's all we heard about day and night on every channel. (it was beter than bad news though)

Then we heard that idiot Bin Laden had been killed. Well talk about change of focus.. That was it for the wedding!

Mind you the later was good news too.applause
Aug 29, 2011 7:00 PM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Rocksmith
RocksmithRocksmithLoch Sport / Gippsland, Victoria Australia8 Threads 1 Polls 1,170 Posts
Rocksmith: Talk about a story being droped like a hot potato, remember the royale wedding Kate and will. It's all we heard about day and night on every channel. (it was beter than bad news though)

Then we heard that idiot Bin Laden had been killed. Well talk about change of focus.. That was it for the wedding!

Mind you the later was good news too.
Aug 29, 2011 8:13 PM CST Depression' The Reasons.
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
Hi Martia , Good thread !
Firstly lets keep in mind there are many degrees of depression,clinical depression is a mental illness unlike mild depression when we all as humans just feel a little sad.Managing depression is tricky as each person is different however there are triggers to avoid ,w atching rolling coverage of catalismic events such as bush fires foods earthquakes loss of lives and human suffering are not good for anyones mental health let alone someone suffering depression or anxiety, therefore we as individuals have to self regulate what goes into our brains , much the same as we dont let our kids watch back to back episodes of rubbish on tv we monitor what they see for their own good .The media have a job to do which is report what is happening in our world .Never before have we had the technology that allows us to have so many on the spot graphic images first hand reports within moments of an event anywhere in the world.We are "informed to the max" ! I do see your point , It can be mesmerisng , a bit like not being able to look away at an accident scene , we are a curious species , our thirst for knowledge is after all what has got us this far ,Does media exposure have a direct effect of depression? I believe it does ,should we blame the media ? No just switch off the TV.wine
Aug 29, 2011 8:38 PM CST Depression' The Reasons.
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
kizzy27: Hi Martia , Good thread !
Firstly lets keep in mind there are many degrees of depression,clinical depression is a mental illness unlike mild depression when we all as humans just feel a little sad.Managing depression is tricky as each person is different however there are triggers to avoid ,w atching rolling coverage of catalismic events such as bush fires foods earthquakes loss of lives and human suffering are not good for anyones mental health let alone someone suffering depression or anxiety, therefore we as individuals have to self regulate what goes into our brains , much the same as we dont let our kids watch back to back episodes of rubbish on tv we monitor what they see for their own good .The media have a job to do which is report what is happening in our world .Never before have we had the technology that allows us to have so many on the spot graphic images first hand reports within moments of an event anywhere in the world.We are "informed to the max" ! I do see your point , It can be mesmerisng , a bit like not being able to look away at an accident scene , we are a curious species , our thirst for knowledge is after all what has got us this far ,Does media exposure have a direct effect of depression? I believe it does ,should we blame the media ? No just switch off the TV.


I think the media does play a big part in depression everyday watching the news and most of it is about war / money / greed / murder/ poverty the list goes on mainly negative stuff with a little bit of hope and humor thrown in for measures. The world is a way harder place to live in compared to even 30 years ago so many people now, we are so over populated from all walks of life the goverment says we need more people confused then in the same breath tells us to watch our water intake. confused The world already in some countries has population explosion why? Starvation it is shocking while we all watch. Can you imagin the depression for those poor people they have real reason to feel it. Really why are so many people in the western world going through depression when we all see devastation on that scale . sad comfort I beg to differ we all need to get a life. Maybe we should try to help more somehow these less fortunate souls and we will feel better for it hug
Aug 30, 2011 12:58 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
Good reply ladies' I for one rarely watch a lot of TV except comedies and things like the talent shows as there are no variety shows on anymore.Also I am interested in politics with a strong lean to the right........well I was frustrated

I just believe it is a slow form of brainwashing so we grab happiness where we can,have you noticed that people go to an opening of a postage stamp en mass just to get out and about 'to escape if you like.

Look at Oprah Winfrey for instance she was revered like a movie star.... damn embarrassing if you ask me, she must have thought the Aussie woman were nuts ! they gave her a scare anyway, once again the herd syndrome.
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If you have nothing better to do have a laugh watch the X Factor Tonight.(now I have recommended it I expect it will be lousy) then again.
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Aug 30, 2011 1:04 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Faithe
FaitheFaithePortland, Victoria Australia5 Threads 4,169 Posts
kizzy27: Hi Martia , Good thread !
Firstly lets keep in mind there are many degrees of depression,clinical depression is a mental illness unlike mild depression when we all as humans just feel a little sad.Managing depression is tricky as each person is different however there are triggers to avoid ,w atching rolling coverage of catalismic events such as bush fires foods earthquakes loss of lives and human suffering are not good for anyones mental health let alone someone suffering depression or anxiety, therefore we as individuals have to self regulate what goes into our brains , much the same as we dont let our kids watch back to back episodes of rubbish on tv we monitor what they see for their own good .The media have a job to do which is report what is happening in our world .Never before have we had the technology that allows us to have so many on the spot graphic images first hand reports within moments of an event anywhere in the world.We are "informed to the max" ! I do see your point , It can be mesmerisng , a bit like not being able to look away at an accident scene , we are a curious species , our thirst for knowledge is after all what has got us this far ,Does media exposure have a direct effect of depression? I believe it does ,should we blame the media ? No just switch off the TV.


Thats right , just switch off the tv. When they did the press conference for the 11 that died in that tragic fire l watched it for about 2 minutes and then turned it off. I didnt want to see all of that heartbreak. Did the same with the bushfires ect.
Aug 30, 2011 2:17 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
I believe we should be studying suffering,if your unable to understand its nature you cannot apply antidote, listening to music, comedy is a distraction from observing our minds. But then i guess most of you know better...
Aug 30, 2011 2:28 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
robplum: I believe we should be studying suffering,if your unable to understand its nature you cannot apply antidote, listening to music, comedy is a distraction from observing our minds. But then i guess most of you know better...


I feel rob we all understand the nature of suffering , for instance the starving masses in Africa , I dont see how by us watching it over and over studying it will in any way help us , the layman to apply any sort of antedote ?? confused I mean sure it creates empathy & promotes awareness but as others have pointed out it also gives hold to feelings of helplessness & despair leading to depression!Perhaps ive misunderstood your line of thought?
Aug 30, 2011 3:05 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
jem1964
jem1964jem1964Foothills of Dandenongs, Victoria Australia30 Threads 1 Polls 2,441 Posts
robplum: I believe we should be studying suffering,if your unable to understand its nature you cannot apply antidote, listening to music, comedy is a distraction from observing our minds. But then i guess most of you know better...


if we need to study suffering to understand it, surely the media is not where we should get our information from? The media presents a biased view, a view that is usually dramatic and skewed to get attention.

If you need to study suffering surely visiting a large suburban hospital, or childrens hospital in any state will be a better gauge of real suffering?
Or if you dont believe or support the medical profession well then certainly a trip to many places overseas and even some in Australia will give a good comprehension of suffering.

The media tends to cram the same message over and over, retelling different stories in the same way. As to the people who are watching, it presents a never ending saga that there seems to be no way out of, inducing helplessness, which in turn creates feelings of sadness and depression as it seems a never ending spiral downwards.

Im not saying the media causes all depression, as there are many different forms and varying strengths of depression, just as there are many different ways of combating the effects of depression. Just the media is one of the causation's of social depression
Aug 30, 2011 3:21 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
robplum: I believe we should be studying suffering,if your unable to understand its nature you cannot apply antidote, listening to music, comedy is a distraction from observing our minds. But then i guess most of you know better...


Rob being you know so much about everything! what are you doing wasting your time on this lowly little forum.
Never a thread goes by without you instructing or giving advice to the members thats ok.... but sometimes its not wanted or needed.
Cant you just go along with the conversation for once or is that just to hard for you to do?.
STOP Trying To Control Everything JMO...
doh professor professor scold
Aug 30, 2011 3:40 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Rocksmith
RocksmithRocksmithLoch Sport / Gippsland, Victoria Australia8 Threads 1 Polls 1,170 Posts
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Aug 30, 2011 3:54 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Lets not stress over who is right about stress.laugh

Go with what works best for you.

Meditation has a lot of support, it has hit nightly news on several occasions now.



If I was a sufferer I would be more inclined to go for a quick fix.. relief in form of pills, that is my choice.

I’ve been suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome since about 28 it use to cause me mild stress in the beginning. These days I accept it is part of my life and I get on with it. I find if I can keep my mind entertained by reading things which interest me, waking up in the mornings to go to work makes it so much more easier.
Aug 30, 2011 3:59 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
robplum: I believe we should be studying suffering,if your unable to understand its nature you cannot apply antidote, listening to music, comedy is a distraction from observing our minds. But then i guess most of you know better...
Well yes, if you go and visit a psychiatrist they have to sometimes explore the unpleasant origin… not that different to what you are talking about.
Aug 30, 2011 4:21 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
Martia: Rob being you know so much about everything! what are you doing wasting your time on this lowly little forum.
Never a thread goes by without you instructing or giving advice to the members thats ok.... but sometimes its not wanted or needed.
Cant you just go along with the conversation for once or is that just to hard for you to do?.
STOP Trying To Control Everything JMO...


He opened his reply with "I believe " I hardly bsee how Rob is "Trying to control everything" WTF is wrong with you?roll eyes
Aug 30, 2011 4:31 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
kizzy27: He opened his reply with "I believe " I hardly bsee how Rob is "Trying to control everything" WTF is wrong with you?


Sorry i agree JMO thumbs up
Aug 30, 2011 4:35 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Lookin4missright: Sorry i agree JMO


Good Evening Mr Lookin to be agreeable... grin

wave wave rose

Why am I lost to whoo you are agreeing with or not?doh
Aug 30, 2011 4:40 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Kristia49
Kristia49Kristia49toowoomba, Queensland Australia31 Threads 2,039 Posts
AgentAjax: Lets not stress over who is right about stress.

Go with what works best for you.

Meditation has a lot of support, it has hit nightly news on several occasions now.



If I was a sufferer I would be more inclined to go for a quick fix.. relief in form of pills, that is my choice.

I’ve been suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome since about 28 it use to cause me mild stress in the beginning. These days I accept it is part of my life and I get on with it. I find if I can keep my mind entertained by reading things which interest me, waking up in the mornings to go to work makes it so much more easier.
We mustn't get stressed about stress, sounds like many have different oppinions and that is REALLY ok. There is feeling bad(stress) and there is depression. I was diognosed years ago, mine wasn't bad, ( caused by the terrorising of my ex. having anxiety attacks in front of my children 5 and 7 yrs.Then there is silent depression, the happiest people on the outside, one 36yr old friend, 5 young children, just took her life. THAT IS DEPRESSION. I know when talking of this subject it make you feel very low and really all everyone wants is to put there hurt out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong. hug
Aug 30, 2011 4:40 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
kizzy27: He opened his reply with "I believe " I hardly bsee how Rob is "Trying to control everything" WTF is wrong with you?


My opinion just like you have yours.Do as I say but not as I do aye Kizzy.scold
Aug 30, 2011 4:42 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Kristia49
Kristia49Kristia49toowoomba, Queensland Australia31 Threads 2,039 Posts
Merriweather: Good Evening Mr Lookin to be agreeable...



Why am I lost to whoo you are agreeing with or not?
wave Hallo Lookin, You wouldn't been terrorising the other threads, would you?boxing
Aug 30, 2011 4:49 AM CST Depression' The Reasons.
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
Kristia49: We mustn't get stressed about stress, sounds like many have different oppinions and that is REALLY ok. There is feeling bad(stress) and there is depression. I was diognosed years ago, mine wasn't bad, ( caused by the terrorising of my ex. having anxiety attacks in front of my children 5 and 7 yrs.Then there is silent depression, the happiest people on the outside, one 36yr old friend, 5 young children, just took her life. THAT IS DEPRESSION. I know when talking of this subject it make you feel very low and really all everyone wants is to put there hurt out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Hi Kristia

You are quite right hun... wave
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