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Aug 3, 2014 5:12 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: Tuesday, September 12, 2006
The UN - Morally Bankrupt and Neutered?
I have as yet to begin The Tower of Babble; but there were two articles in The Washington Times about the United Nations and "Coffee-cup" Annan. The articles are respectively: "Americans losing faith in U.N., survey finds"; and an editorial - "U.N. comeback?"

Let's dispense with the second one first. Essentially, the editorial addresses Kofi Annan (How much longer will we have to deal with this master of negotiations?) and his lead in "ending the 34-day Lebanon-Israel war". I seem to have been misinformed. I was under the impression that the war was between Hezbollah and Israel with Lebanon taking no part in the hostilities except of course for staying out of it all. Good planning, that.

The U.N. is ineffectual, held together only by the money of the United States and other Western nations, and has degenerated into a hate-America (and Israel) first club which vies with the American Left to see who can hate America the more vociferously.

To point to the ineffectual and neutered position of the U.N.'s Secretary General, the Supreme Leader of Iran - Ayatollah Ali Khamenei - would not even meet with him. Give Kofi his gold watch, his certificate of accomplishment, and send him off. The sooner the better.

The good news is the first article: Americans losing faith in the U.N..... The subtitle reads: Support grows for cutting world body's U.S. taxpayer funding. Yippee!

"Nearly three-quarters of the American people think the United Nations is no longer effective and could support cutting U.S. contributions to the world body....

The U.N. has degenerated into an America-bashing cliche. And Americans should not be forced to continue to subsidize it with our tax dollars. The U.N. is a hate-filled assemblage concentrating their hatred on the U.S. and Israel.
.....sorry cut to fit
The war that has been brought to the West will be fought sooner or later. We should tell the U.N. to step aside, pull the moving vans up to the U.N. loading docks, and move 'em out.

Appeasement has never worked. It will not work now. Eunichs have never held much power; they are used and controlled by more focused powers. No one in a long time has been as vocal and as focused at the Islamic Imperialists. Call the U.N. what it is - a so-so idea whose time has passed due to its own little white-laced handkerchief-wringing approach-avoidance behavior. End it; you can't mend it.

and not only in Lebanon,same holds good for Gaza as well!

UN is a joke since its funding comes from hmmm which countries?

What I wonder about is:
How come some wealthy Muslims countries do not support the Palestinians the way USA has supported Israel?

Would you care for Palestinians children, women and men that are just civilians?


grin
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Aug 3, 2014 5:19 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream: UN is a joke since its funding comes from which countries?

What I wonder about is:
How come some wealthy Muslims countries do not support the Palestinians the way USA has supported Israel?

Would you care for Palestinians children, women and men that are just civilians?

nope,but Hamas,Hezbollah and PA could go to where the Pepper grows,as we say here!grin
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Aug 3, 2014 5:21 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Conrad73: nope,but Hamas,Hezbollah and PA could go to where the Pepper grows,as we say here!


Your not caring about Palestinian innocent people makes you just the same as the Muslims who do not care either.




wine
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Aug 3, 2014 5:26 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream: Your not caring about Palestinian innocent people makes you just the same as the Muslims who do not care either.

you want to tell me that Hamas and Hezbollah and PA are Innocent People?wow wow wow
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Aug 3, 2014 5:35 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
When you have traveled and see people not matter their nationality and no matter their income and to see how they are full of life not matter if they have little or close to nothing, you can not help but to feel a need to protect and care for everyone’s life.

Conrad73: you want to tell me that Hamas and Hezbollah and PA are Innocent People?

Try harder Conrad.

I am telling you that:

then you are very much like them.

wine
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Aug 3, 2014 5:48 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream: When you have traveled and see people not matter their nationality and no matter their income and to see how they are full of life not matter if they have little or close to nothing, you can not help but to feel a need to protect and care for everyone’s life. Try harder Conrad.

I am telling you that:

then you are very much like them.

Like how?
are you still telling me that Hamas has no Blood on their hands?
Really,try again!wow doh

Hamas is the creator of those woes in Gaza!
It's them who started lobbing Rockets into Israel!
It's them who caused the Blockade!doh
Their People's blood is on the hands of those Hamas Leaders who are sitting in the Emirates living high on the Hog while their People are suffering,and adding insult to injury are stealing the Funds that are being sent to the People of Gaza!



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Aug 3, 2014 5:53 PM CST GAZA !!!
Conrad73: http://www.rosenblit.com/Palestine.htm

you all get a friggen Clue!

The local Arab identification as “southern Syrian” was succinctly summarized by Auni Bey Abd al-Hadi, Secretary-General of the Arab Higher Committee of Mandatory Palestine, in his testimony to the Palestine Royal Commission of 1936 (commonly known as the “Peel Commission”), created by Great Britain in response to the “Great Arab Revolt” (1936 - 1939) in Mandatory Palestine:

“There is no such country [as Palestine]! ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was, for centuries, part of Syria.”

In deference to this longstanding non-assertion of "Palestinian" ethnic identity, the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine of 1922 referred to the local Arab population, collectively, as "existing non-Jewish communities", and the United Nations Palestine Partition Plan of 1947 referred throughout only to the creation of an Arab (rather than a “Palestinian”) State and to the prospective citizenry thereof as Arabs (rather than as “Palestinians”), while United Nations Security Council Resolution no. 242 of 1967 referred to them only as "the refugee problem". In other words, the very language of these international instruments confirms that the vaunted concept of a "Palestinian" ethnic identity is a fabrication of more recent origin (popularized together with the nouveau appellation "West Bank" -- a de-Judaizing substitution for the historical names Judea and Samaria plus the eastern portion of Jerusalem -- in the aftermath of the 1967 Six Day War).

Moreover, during the 19 years (from 1948 to 1967) that Judea, Samaria, and the eastern portion of Jerusalem, and Gaza were illegally occupied, respectively, by Jordan and Egypt, neither the “Palestinian” Arab inhabitants of those areas nor the larger Arab and Muslim worlds ever asserted the existence therein of either an ethnically distinct "Palestinian" people or a historical nation-state (or kingdom or other sovereign entity) known as “Palestine”. It is consequently not surprising that during this same period, there was never any demand from any quarter for the establishment in Judea, Samaria, and the eastern portion of Jerusalem, and Gaza of a "Palestinian" state. In fact, the Arabs of Judea, Samaria, and the eastern portion of Jerusalem, after having emphatically insisted that they were “southern Syrians” prior to Israel’s 1948 War of Independence, supinely accepted that they were “Jordanians” from 1948 to 1967 -- only to assert their identity as “Palestinians” after the Jewish people’s reacquisition of these territories in the Six Day War. Moreover, per Article 24 of the original National Covenant of the Palestine Liberation Organization enacted May 28, 1964. the leadership of the "Palestinian" people even went so far as to publicly disavow any claim of sovereignty to these very areas during those 19 years of illegal occupation by Jordan and Egypt.
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Aug 3, 2014 5:53 PM CST GAZA !!!
My goodness, more than a few Palestinian sympathizers in the forum. Sounds like some members need to go to Gaza. Hamas may be running out of suicide bombers these days. I wish you all of the best.
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Aug 3, 2014 5:55 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Please do not place links, read them and make your point.

Conrad73: Like how?
are you still telling me that Hamas has no Blood on their hands?
Really,try again!

Hamas is the creator of those woes in Gaza!
It's them who started lobbing Rockets into Israel!
It's them who caused the Blockade!
Their People's blood is on the hands of those Hamas Leaders who are sitting in the Emirates living high on the Hog while their People are suffering,and adding insult to injury are stealing the Funds that are being sent to the People of Gaza!





You are biased Conrad you do care only for Israelis, me I do care for people not matter if they are Israelis or Palestinians.

I do have friends in both sides.


wine
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Aug 3, 2014 5:56 PM CST GAZA !!!
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
CuddlingSoul: My goodness, more than a few Palestinian sympathizers in the forum. Sounds like some members need to go to Gaza. Hamas may be running out of suicide bombers these days. I wish you all of the best.



Please do post your experiences of being there?
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Aug 3, 2014 5:57 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
CuddlingSoul: My goodness, more than a few Palestinian sympathizers in the forum. Sounds like some members need to go to Gaza. Hamas may be running out of suicide bombers these days. I wish you all of the best.


Where is your CuddlingSoul?
It is not about Palestinians or israelies, it is about stopping all that killing.

Would you happen to have a solution for this conflict?

wine
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Aug 3, 2014 6:06 PM CST GAZA !!!
lifeisadream: Where is your CuddlingSoul?
It is not about Palestinians or israelies, it is about stopping all that killing.

Would you happen to have a solution for this conflict?
Sure I do, we'll give the Palestinians, Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
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Aug 3, 2014 6:09 PM CST GAZA !!!
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
CuddlingSoul: Sure I do, we'll give the Palestinians, Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.


Why not leave them where they belong and move the Israelies?
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Aug 3, 2014 6:15 PM CST GAZA !!!
Glatlol: Why not leave them where they belong and move the Israelies?
If it was up to me, I'd relocate the nation of Israel to America. I would be more than proud. Give them the whole state of California and let them turn the state around. California would become prosperous in less than ten years.
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Aug 3, 2014 6:18 PM CST GAZA !!!
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
CuddlingSoul: If it was up to me, I'd relocate the nation of Israel to America. I would be more than proud. Give them the whole state of California and let them turn the state around. California would become prosperous in less than ten years.


But what would happen when they wanted more land?
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Aug 3, 2014 6:27 PM CST GAZA !!!
Why can't Israel just let Palestine have Gaza and those who live in (what's left of) Gaza that want to be part of Israel move to Israel, and the rest be part of Palestine.

OR divide Gaza in two and let those who want to be part of Israel live in the Israel half and the other half be part of Palestine.

And both Israel and Palestine, with the help of the United Nations, the U.S. and those who have failed so far, should compensate those in Gaza (rebuild for them) who have gone through so much death, horrendous suffering and horror. Sounds simplistic and idealistic I know, but it would be great if it worked.
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Aug 3, 2014 6:31 PM CST GAZA !!!
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
the Jewish people are GOD's chosen people Israel was there land given by GOD. when they where exiled from there land it became a waste land. no one could make it prosper. when they returned only the Jewish people made it prosperous.
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Aug 3, 2014 6:32 PM CST GAZA !!!
minnieme2: Why can't Israel just let Palestine have Gaza and those who live in (what's left of) Gaza that want to be part of Israel move to Israel, and the rest be part of Palestine.

OR divide Gaza in two and let those who want to be part of Israel live in the Israel half and the other half be part of Palestine.

And both Israel and Palestine, with the help of the United Nations, the U.S. and those who have failed so far, should compensate those in Gaza (rebuild for them) who have gone through so much death, horrendous suffering and horror. Sounds simplistic and idealistic I know, but it would be great if it worked.


Gaza has been "Judenfrei" for the last nine years!doh
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Aug 3, 2014 6:35 PM CST GAZA !!!
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
stringman: the Jewish people are GOD's chosen people Israel was there land given by GOD. when they where exiled from there land it became a waste land. no one could make it prosper. when they returned only the Jewish people made it prosperous.



oh for goodness sake will you please stop that nonsense and actually form an opinion of your own. A fictional character says something in a book so its ok to kill innocent children, ffs man grow a pair.
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Aug 3, 2014 6:39 PM CST GAZA !!!
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Conrad73: Problem is that the PA has a similar Charter as Hamas!
well if they don't fire missiles at Israel it won't matter what imaginary friend they think runs their heaven .
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