rizlared: No I'm not misinformed, I lived there during her time, I am, after all, British. The country was in a terrible state when she came to power, Callaghan had destroyed our economy, she turned it around, she fought and won huge concessions from the EU, all lost by B Lair. She stood up to the blackmail of the unions and succeeded to calm them down, had the British population been so against her as you suggest, why did she win 4 yes 4 elections, something no other 20th century politician has ever done? The misinformation spread about her is appalling in my opinion, yet B Lair gets away with lying to our parliment, the country and the world. Criticize Thatcher by all means, but don't write untruths !
Wish my dad was here to debate with you about her and he is an intellectual ,,I'm not,
He would gladly de abate with you but he from Manchester and lives there and not on here,
Anyway everyone entitled to their view just alot would disagree with you too,
peachmelba: Wish my dad was here to debate with you about her and he is an intellectual ,,I'm not,
He would gladly de abate with you but he from Manchester and lives there and not on here,
Anyway everyone entitled to their view just alot would disagree with you too,
Anyways no harm feeling have a good day,
I didn't support her views Peach, especially the removing of school milk and of course the poll tax, but she rebuilt the UK after labour had created mass unemployment and financial ruin. Had labour been in power the UK would have become far worse a place to live in, with no jobs and no money. Remember the "Winter of discontent" ? Most have forgotten, but without Thatchers strong leadership, the UK would have become bankrupt!! But I accept that we all see these changes in our own way and often opinions are at loggerheads. we can agree to disagree
Britain bagsied a sad little island down at the bottom of the world and then the Foreign Tin Pot General bagsied it for himself. The Old Iron Woman bagsied it back and DJ is saying the Belgrano was turning away and was out of the bagsied area when the The Old Iron Woman ordered it to be sunk even though there were real live human beings on board.
There was a lot of fighting and bombing and ship sinking ordered by the Foreign Tin Pot General and The Old Iron Woman even though there were real live people on the ships and the sad little island. Eventually, enough people (and three sheep) died and The Old Iron Woman bagsied it back.
At some point, the successors of The Old Iron Woman said the successors of The Tin Pot Foreign General could bagsy it back because they didn't want it anymore anyway. You're saying the successors of the The Tin Pot Foreign General has said The Belgrano wasn't turning away and wasn't out of the bagsied area when The Old Iron Woman sunk it with real live people on board and quite frankly they deserved it and isn't it jolly nice of the successors of The Old Iron Woman to let them have fourth dibs on the sad little island anyway?
I wonder if new facts will come out some time in the future. Perhaps something about swapsies in the playground without pissing off the school bully and her henchmen. I wonder if the reputation of the Tin Pot Foreign General was more easily expendable than that of the Old Iron Woman.
The fact that you find humour in the deaths that occurred after the Islands were invaded, say much about you Jac than anything Thatcher did or didn't do. Sad sad sad
rizlared: I didn't support her views Peach, especially the removing of school milk and of course the poll tax, but she rebuilt the UK after labour had created mass unemployment and financial ruin. Had labour been in power the UK would have become far worse a place to live in, with no jobs and no money. Remember the "Winter of discontent" ? Most have forgotten, but without Thatchers strong leadership, the UK would have become bankrupt!! But I accept that we all see these changes in our own way and often opinions are at loggerheads. we can agree to disagree
Yes opinion will always be divided so we will agree to disagree,
Harold Wilson was a good man for the people in labour,
Edward Heath Was not good for working classes and the working classes are the back bone of society,
My granny my dads mam worked very hard all her life to get my dad good education and his degree ,,came harder for him,
My grandad worked all hours god send on the railway in Gorton Manchester,he lost a leg while working,
They the type of people that wouldn't be Harold Wilson types,
My dad also played soccor and cricket for a big club,
Yes working classes are very intelligent and astute with or without degrees just alot don't get the chance too busey working,,,while the rich get richer under the conservatives ,
peachmelba: Yes opinion will always be divided so we will agree to disagree, Harold Wilson was a good man for the people in labour,
Edward Heath Was not good for working classes and the working classes are the back bone of society,
My granny my dads mam worked very hard all her life to get my dad good education and his degree ,,came harder for him,
My grandad worked all hours god send on the railway in Gorton Manchester,he lost a leg while working,
They the type of people that wouldn't be Harold Wilson types,
My dad also played soccor and cricket for a big club,
Yes working classes are very intelligent and astute with or without degrees just alot don't get the chance too busey working,,,while the rich get richer under the conservatives ,
Meant to say the Edward Heath types,
Wonder what my late grandad think of the new railway being built in England,
Wonder what my late grandad think of the new railway being built in England,Be good for the people up north.
History is an adaptation of what is available during that time Peach. What about all the rails of the USA almost all Chinese labor?
So let us move on and by the way, while it is very transparent that to move on to another step putting a radical change on the reign of the government,.sure we have to study England as the closest and most fitting specimen of such a nature.
But please do incorporate all your opinions to the need to change and put in a woman in my country?
rizlared: I didn't support her views Peach, especially the removing of school milk and of course the poll tax, but she rebuilt the UK after labour had created mass unemployment and financial ruin. Had labour been in power the UK would have become far worse a place to live in, with no jobs and no money. Remember the "Winter of discontent" ? Most have forgotten, but without Thatchers strong leadership, the UK would have become bankrupt!! But I accept that we all see these changes in our own way and often opinions are at loggerheads. we can agree to disagree
She can be remembered for so many good and bad she did. Yet if you look at the foot of the monumental legacy she was thrown into, I can't help but give my admiration. Yet I can be wrong..
But if you ask me? Which is more wrong? What about those oligarchs who are just fattening their coffers?
No not at all...They are untouchables. Well guys, gone are the days, when their land was theirs and that you owe it to them that you can go and bleed your life in the field so that you have a food to fill your bellies.
Conrad73: still crapping yourself about Age,are you? Hope you have a Bidet installed! It is getting Krankhaft with you!
I had a laugh when I searched '79 strikes , six million days lost in the UK and '91, info on the air strikes against Iraq . The start of our modern times .
In a world so racially charged and so torn on religious differences, as in the beginning of time, perhaps a woman's touch is the answer?
Note: I am specifically directing this topic to my country.
But your opinions are all appreciated, in opposition or not.
In the world of politics ,It doesn't make much of difference having a women leader . The decisions are taken based on many compulsions and not the choice of the leader.
Why is my post above hidden? Its a cover up, literally of the Ops own flaws and a measure of vast gapping cracks in her own ability to face this fact, yet again.
Its Dirty ticks all the way for this one brain-celled posting monstrosity.
Harryonline: Why is my post above hidden? Its a cover up, literally of the Ops own flaws and a measure of vast gapping cracks in her own ability to face this fact, yet again.
Its Dirty ticks all the way for this one brain-celled posting monstrosity.
Don't feel so bad Harry the original poster hid all of my comments plus banned me from their enemy thread. I should go and post a thread about.
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The misinformation spread about her is appalling in my opinion, yet B Lair gets away with lying to our parliment, the country and the world. Criticize Thatcher by all means, but don't write untruths !
Wish my dad was here to debate with you about her and he is an intellectual ,,I'm not,
He would gladly de abate with you but he from Manchester and lives there and not on here,
Anyway everyone entitled to their view just alot would disagree with you too,
Anyways no harm feeling have a good day,