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Oh and as for women leaders I like Jackie Kennedy, Elizabeth Warren, Oprah Winfrey as far as names anyone would recognize or famous leaders. :)
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felixis99: Oh and as for women leaders I like Jackie Kennedy, Elizabeth Warren, Oprah Winfrey as far as names anyone would recognize or famous leaders. :)
Jackie was a leader ? and Oprah was a talk show host...not sure of Liz though
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Ccincy: Don't feel so bad Harry the original poster hid all of my comments plus banned me from their enemy thread. I should go and post a thread about.
There are three posters I try not to be "linked" with, in any shape or form. I dont care what they think or have time for them in the sliughtest. There are those who seem ok...five minutes at a time..in small dosages...but things come out in the wash...some get sucked in too far too easily, to get out easily. They have snared you into their madness.
How far the rabbits holes goes...I'll let others find out. They are as mad as a hatter.
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Harryonline: Jackie was a leader ? and Oprah was a talk show host...not sure of Liz though
harryonline I see you as a leader as how you carry yourself
leadsrship is a state of being not a position
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felixis99: harryonline I see you as a leader as how you carry yourself
leadsrship is a state of being not a position
leadsrship is a state of being not a position
oh yes Jackie was a leader in her deportment and fashion and decorating of the White House...you may giggle but back then those things were important to the ladies. Her composure was always admired in the US. :)
Oprah is a leader in regards to her being one of the most successful business persons in the US who happens to be a woman. She is also a successful actress. Her opinions and magazine are very influential to many in the US.
Elizabeth Warren is a politician. You can look her up I assume. :)
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She thought she was unattractive. She had a weight problem...but then it all come round for her.
I thought she was an all round great gal. Would have liked to have met her.
I thought she was an all round great gal. Would have liked to have met her.
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Harryonline: She thought she was unattractive. She had a weight problem...but then it all come round for her.
I thought she was an all round great gal. Would have liked to have met her.
I thought she was an all round great gal. Would have liked to have met her.
who?
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felixis99: who?
Rickie Lake - She made a big impression on me. It actually crept up on me, and before I knew it, I was hooked. As far as I'm concerned, she was a very good advertisement for American women ...for those males wanting this type of "new women" for export
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Harryonline: Rickie Lake - She made a big impression on me. It actually crept up on me, and before I knew it, I was hooked. As far as I'm concerned, she was a very good advertisement for American women ...for those males wanting this type of "new women" for export
Oh Harry online what a nice thing to say
I am not familiar with her as I do not watch TV often, but I wish now that I was exportable
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There are untold story's stretching way back, yet not well known or publicized widely
Although there is remembrance for everyday folk on the 50p coin in the UK, of the image of "Boudicca"
Although there is remembrance for everyday folk on the 50p coin in the UK, of the image of "Boudicca"
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I noticed the comments I read about Margaret Thatcher being a victor were made by people not living where she ruled.
Believe me she left a trail of devastation behind her. People have never really recovered in some parts of the UK with her policies. She made the poor feel like they were just scroungers.. whilst feeding the rich yet again.
I am someone who believes in supporting and sustaining a prime minister... BUT there was VERY LITTLE could I could support her in. She sounded good.. yes, but if you looked in her eyes.. she was steely.. hence the Iron lady. I never saw any compassion in her politics. To me she was very cold and uncaring and ruthless with the way she discarded certain people here. To me her time in power did far more damage than any good... and yes I am sure she did some good... but the price some people paid were vast"
Believe me she left a trail of devastation behind her. People have never really recovered in some parts of the UK with her policies. She made the poor feel like they were just scroungers.. whilst feeding the rich yet again.
I am someone who believes in supporting and sustaining a prime minister... BUT there was VERY LITTLE could I could support her in. She sounded good.. yes, but if you looked in her eyes.. she was steely.. hence the Iron lady. I never saw any compassion in her politics. To me she was very cold and uncaring and ruthless with the way she discarded certain people here. To me her time in power did far more damage than any good... and yes I am sure she did some good... but the price some people paid were vast"
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wallops1964: I totslly agree with jac, she DOES know what she is talking about.. she lived through that time and so did I Lindsey... it was a DARK and awful time for most in the uk and British Isles. For everyone that benefited a hundred didnt I would say. It was like a nightmare for most here...truly it was AND I believed she would do good at the beginning. I went in with a positive attitude embracing her inasmuch as what she said at the beginning `sounded` good... but that was NOT the case, sadly.
I did not know she was still so controversial , I should have as NZ went down the same track with different sections played off against others . Thousands of businesses were broken over that time , many killed themselves , I had met one and new of others .I could say much more . Seething resentment towards second rate lying politicians would express how I feel .------ This thread is Archived ------
the women leaders who made the greatest impact on me are not particularly famous. People like teachers, coaches in the small town I grew up in :)
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wallops1964: I noticed the comments I read about Margaret Thatcher being a victor were made by people not living where she ruled.
Believe me she left a trail of devastation behind her. People have never really recovered in some parts of the UK with her policies. She made the poor feel like they were just scroungers.. whilst feeding the rich yet again.
I am someone who believes in supporting and sustaining a prime minister... BUT there was VERY LITTLE could I could support her in. She sounded good.. yes, but if you looked in her eyes.. she was steely.. hence the Iron lady. I never saw any compassion in her politics. To me she was very cold and uncaring and ruthless with the way she discarded certain people here. To me her time in power did far more damage than any good... and yes I am sure she did some good... but the price some people paid were vast"
Believe me she left a trail of devastation behind her. People have never really recovered in some parts of the UK with her policies. She made the poor feel like they were just scroungers.. whilst feeding the rich yet again.
I am someone who believes in supporting and sustaining a prime minister... BUT there was VERY LITTLE could I could support her in. She sounded good.. yes, but if you looked in her eyes.. she was steely.. hence the Iron lady. I never saw any compassion in her politics. To me she was very cold and uncaring and ruthless with the way she discarded certain people here. To me her time in power did far more damage than any good... and yes I am sure she did some good... but the price some people paid were vast"
She broke the power of the unions when Britain was down to a 3 day working week and becoming the laughing stock of the world. People of ability and brains were leaving the country in droves - the braindrain. She reversed that. She turned Britain back into a world power. She brokered a deal with Europe which has saved us hundreds of millions of pounds over the years since, yet kept us in the EU, which created thousands of jobs and created wealth for the country in general. She was eventually demonised by the Opposition and they continue to whip up rage and hatred against her for her success, but outside of Britain, she was considered the best thing that ever happened to the UK. I don't think she was personally a very nice person and her omelettes broke a lot of eggs, but she took over a country in meltdown and turned it around. Individuals, especially union leaders, hated her, but history will remember her long, long after the dangerously ineffectual puppets who were in power before and after her. She served three terms, so she had a LOT of support, since the working classes outnumber the privileged classes significantly. The devastation she caused was usually (granted, not always) among people who couldn't see past their own egos to realize they were destroying the country.
Not taking a swipe at you, Wallops, just putting across another point of view.
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What is it you are saying?...considering the bickering that has gone on...people can be very guarded...just saying...what is your opinion on this subject of women as leaders?...
What is it you are saying?...considering the bickering that has gone on...people can be very guarded...just saying...what is your opinion on this subject of women as leaders?...
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I cannot speak for the OP...but would think it best to allow the OP to answer that question...whether it will be addressed is up to the OP...have no idea about hidden posts...so cannot reply to that...
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loulou77: I cannot speak for the OP...but would think it best to allow the OP to answer that question...whether it will be addressed is up to the OP...have no idea about hidden posts...so cannot reply to that...
Okay, I'll explain to you, too.
As a thread author one has the moderator power to hide posts.
As a reader, one has the power to open all the hidden posts and read them.
Hidden posts tend to inspire people's natural curiosity, so the first thing people do when coming across a hidden post is read it. Ergo, hiding posts rather embarrassingly has the opposite effect to the one intended and ironically draws attention to them rather than hide them.
The thread author has the moderator power to unhide any post they have hidden and reverse the process, just as they have the power to unban those they have banned.
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sounds rather tedious...i choose not to find a hidden post...but that is just me...for some it maybe to save face sort to speak but why be so aggressive in finding who is right?...we all have difference of opinions...drop it and move on...
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wallops1964: I noticed the comments I read about Margaret Thatcher being a victor were made by people not living where she ruled.
Believe me she left a trail of devastation behind her. People have never really recovered in some parts of the UK with her policies. She made the poor feel like they were just scroungers.. whilst feeding the rich yet again.
I am someone who believes in supporting and sustaining a prime minister... BUT there was VERY LITTLE could I could support her in. She sounded good.. yes, but if you looked in her eyes.. she was steely.. hence the Iron lady. I never saw any compassion in her politics. To me she was very cold and uncaring and ruthless with the way she discarded certain people here. To me her time in power did far more damage than any good... and yes I am sure she did some good... but the price some people paid were vast"
Believe me she left a trail of devastation behind her. People have never really recovered in some parts of the UK with her policies. She made the poor feel like they were just scroungers.. whilst feeding the rich yet again.
I am someone who believes in supporting and sustaining a prime minister... BUT there was VERY LITTLE could I could support her in. She sounded good.. yes, but if you looked in her eyes.. she was steely.. hence the Iron lady. I never saw any compassion in her politics. To me she was very cold and uncaring and ruthless with the way she discarded certain people here. To me her time in power did far more damage than any good... and yes I am sure she did some good... but the price some people paid were vast"
Hello sweet lady, first thank you so much for your participation here. I'm always pleased to see you on my writes.
You probably are right in your account but so are those of us giving her the thumbs up on her rule. Just like you said. Your immediate experience on her leadership being a subject or citizen is derived from your exposure to a closer feel and look, for ys, we're only reading what was presented based on her performance. But remember toi, there's always two sides of the coin. On the first part of the thread there's a gentleman that strongly admired her and refuted some opposition against her.
Would be nice if there's a book that suggests otherwise written after her leadership.
Personally I was visiting some relatives in your country during her rule and being a woman she had to be over bearing to overcome obstacles that were so difficult specially on the war, but also on the economic low of the country which could have ruined the kingdom. To lead country beset with local unrest is a challenging role but at least kept the country united even after she was done. Books, like I said look good as far as she's concerned.
I n my country today, not only are we pressed against many wars but terrorism is on the rise in our own backyard. Local policies concerning immigration is crying for reforms. Borders need to be reinforced so illegal immigration can be scaled down.
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Hey Serene
When women try to act "tough" as leaders to gain the respect of men who they lead, a couple of things happen. They may pay too much attention to what their male charges think and lose connection with women. Also they risk coming across as unfeeling; as bad a stereotype as the other.
I do agree that women do not want to feed the stereotype of being overly emotional, but if they behave professionally and with compassion, that's appropriate. One thing any leader - good leader does - is understand that the slings and arrows of misfortune and gossip will always be there no matter what ...lol