What Killed Marriage? (55)
Stranger1978HQCologne !, Hamburg Germany241 Posts
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I think "I am not in love with you anymore" after 36 years is total BS. 
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PeKaatje: well, I guess that the feminism and emancipation doesn't do much good for marriage.
Many women (in my country for sure) first want to build up a good carreer before thinking of marriage and children.
When they are about 40 they decide: oh, there's just a little time, let's have children.
Why is this? Because of capitalism and greed.
you're a bitter old man with horse glasses .. Many women (in my country for sure) first want to build up a good carreer before thinking of marriage and children.
When they are about 40 they decide: oh, there's just a little time, let's have children.
Why is this? Because of capitalism and greed.
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Sawdust_Molly: you're a bitter old man with horse glasses ..
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LeeCharming: Rollo Tomassi discusses what he thinks killed marriage and also other things including hypergamy
Why do you think marriage is dead?
I don't think that marriage is totally dead. I just think that people have moved on with the "times" At my age, I would have no need to get married again. I had a good 30 yrs of being married, had my 3 wonderful kids, we both worked and enjoyed what we had in those 33 years (when I first met him). My daughter is now 43 and with her partner of 5 years. She had an horrendous marriage, which she hid from me and my ex. She had her 1st child very late in life when me and her Dad were splitting up. If the younger generation want to get married, then it's up to them, it's their choice and who are we to tell them otherwise? Why do you think marriage is dead?
I "personally" wouldn't want to live with anyone on a 24/7 basis as I like my independence now and need my own space but that's my choice.
As for the young people of today, they may want to get married and it makes things more "legal" if they separate and divorce without a pre nup agreement. This is just my take on things.............
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I wouldn't say marriage is dead. But the sanctity of marriage and family has certainly taken a backseat to forces - mostly of a political and economic nature - that thrive when male and female are not necessarily on the best of terms.
Think of it this way:
People are happy and relations between the séxes are generally very happy. There are many couples(and many babies!!). However... this puts a strain on the state... many babies means state support. This does not sit well with company profits! This is sad but true. Corporate(profit seeking) forces benefit more from division among the séxes. More people(worker bees) in the workforce means better profits. And lower corporate taxes :)
Think of it this way:
People are happy and relations between the séxes are generally very happy. There are many couples(and many babies!!). However... this puts a strain on the state... many babies means state support. This does not sit well with company profits! This is sad but true. Corporate(profit seeking) forces benefit more from division among the séxes. More people(worker bees) in the workforce means better profits. And lower corporate taxes :)
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mikey4691: I'm a bitter old man... Got any thing to offer??? I get you sometimes??
Omg,.. I was responding on Peekaatje his post, I did something wrong I guess 
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Society killed marriage. Changing morals and attitudes. Ease of divorce. It used to be a baby out of wedlock was looked down upon.Now the couple waits til the kids are old enough to be in the wedding party! People used to believe a couple worked together to build a life and stuck it out through thick and thin. Today, through sickness and health, richer or poorer has become as lone as mutually beneficial. As soon as one feels the other is getting more, out with them.
Divorce used to be a stigma. Now, doesn't matter.
Greed has killed marriage. Neither wants to share. What's mine is mine.Lazy has killed it. Easier to walk away than work at it. Selfishness has killed it. I want it MY way, up yours.
I married at 18. To a 19 year old. We were married for 9 years. We grew up. Unfortunately not the same pace. I did, he didn't. He wanted me to divorce him. I said I didn't believe in it, made my bed and willing to lie in it. He wanted to play and not have to work. I had the satisfaction that after we each had re-married, he told me our divorce was the worst, dumbest thing he ever did. I said thank you for the kind words. He was not happy the second go around. I was. Married for 32 to years til he died.
Now..why bother with marriage. My guy has property and his way of life. I have property and my way of life. To share time together works fine. To marry? Why? Who gives up what? We are too old for having kids so what difference does it make. He doesn't NEED me and I don't NEED him. Old people are way too complicated to get married. Sad thing is now young people are also.
Marriage is great when young. You join and build and grow together. Seems though the young don't want to do all that work anymore. They can now have their own cake and eat it alone.
Divorce used to be a stigma. Now, doesn't matter.
Greed has killed marriage. Neither wants to share. What's mine is mine.Lazy has killed it. Easier to walk away than work at it. Selfishness has killed it. I want it MY way, up yours.
I married at 18. To a 19 year old. We were married for 9 years. We grew up. Unfortunately not the same pace. I did, he didn't. He wanted me to divorce him. I said I didn't believe in it, made my bed and willing to lie in it. He wanted to play and not have to work. I had the satisfaction that after we each had re-married, he told me our divorce was the worst, dumbest thing he ever did. I said thank you for the kind words. He was not happy the second go around. I was. Married for 32 to years til he died.
Now..why bother with marriage. My guy has property and his way of life. I have property and my way of life. To share time together works fine. To marry? Why? Who gives up what? We are too old for having kids so what difference does it make. He doesn't NEED me and I don't NEED him. Old people are way too complicated to get married. Sad thing is now young people are also.
Marriage is great when young. You join and build and grow together. Seems though the young don't want to do all that work anymore. They can now have their own cake and eat it alone.
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Iyyov: Marriage isn't dead, nor will it ever be. There are a lot of people, especially men, that would like it to be, so that they can get out of being responsible. So they pretend marriage doesn't exist. But that is their own narrow-mindedness.
Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.
Bottom line, never accept anything less.
Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
A few go into it without respecting the marriage and act on their own self needs. Expect a partner to forgive him no matter what but it does not work when the tables are turned.Unfortunately, some women fall prey to this and find themselves in an awful predicament. We make our choices, then we pay the price.
Bottom line, never accept anything less.
Shalom l'Col (Peace to all)
Iyyov
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PeKaatje: well, I guess that the feminism and emancipation doesn't do much good for marriage.
Many women (in my country for sure) first want to build up a good career before thinking of marriage and children.
When they are about 40 they decide: oh, there's just a little time, let's have children.
Why is this? Because of capitalism and greed.
Women may need to support themselves as that is the reason for the career. Nobody wants a husband who is a deserter as I have seen many times. Sorry! Reality is that we do have to protect ourselves financially and have money to raise children and if that is late in life that is the way it isMany women (in my country for sure) first want to build up a good career before thinking of marriage and children.
When they are about 40 they decide: oh, there's just a little time, let's have children.
Why is this? Because of capitalism and greed.
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spungey: A few go into it without respecting the marriage and act on their own self needs. Expect a partner to forgive him no matter what but it does not work when the tables are turned.
Loyalty and love...rarely exist in modern marriages...Women have massive incentives to marry and divorce men...to commit paternity fraud and track a man into paying for a child...or children...that are not hisThe sell for women to marry men is the financial benefits
The sell for men to marry women is ZERO
Traditional marriages worked
Modern marriages don't and never will...cause only women get the benefits
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Very logical, when a woman is independent she must protect herself from the fall, especially in the societies of wild, greedy and selfish capitalism
In addition to this, you find the man in capitalist societies that does not depend on him not because of his inefficiency or lack of adequate specifications for him, but because the economic and social conditions and challenges are much greater than him.
There are basic rights that should not be absent, prevented, or hindered by accessing or monopolizing them, such as the right to education, work, medicine, and (housing).
These rights cannot be violated in a state of rights and social equality
The housing crisis has always been contrived. Humans have lived in wars, epidemics, and famines, but they have never experienced a housing crisis except with the advent of (new feudal) capitalism and ugly monopoly.
Extended family, happy extended family, successful marriage. They are all impressive phrases because they are rare these days!
May God help everyone in the time of the Coruna virus
In addition to this, you find the man in capitalist societies that does not depend on him not because of his inefficiency or lack of adequate specifications for him, but because the economic and social conditions and challenges are much greater than him.
There are basic rights that should not be absent, prevented, or hindered by accessing or monopolizing them, such as the right to education, work, medicine, and (housing).
These rights cannot be violated in a state of rights and social equality
The housing crisis has always been contrived. Humans have lived in wars, epidemics, and famines, but they have never experienced a housing crisis except with the advent of (new feudal) capitalism and ugly monopoly.
Extended family, happy extended family, successful marriage. They are all impressive phrases because they are rare these days!
May God help everyone in the time of the Coruna virus
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The important is try not to take yourself too seriously. Key workers and coronavirus aside the main focus of modern attention is not one of functionality my friend. In the past the question was more of reasons to get married, today the question today is one of emotional decision-making. Feelings and not reasons will make people decide the ordinary modern person is stylish.
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Equality, to a certain part only on paper (constitution), killed the traditional - church - marriage. If I can manage without a husband, why would I get one?
From my experience, men expect me to take care of their household. Yes, their household, not ours. They see themselves as bread-winners and saviors and the first necessity in my life. I don't know why. I work and have my salary. I am in no need to be saved from anything. And no, I'm not interested in never-ending household mill.
I'd like to have a relationship there we are co-pilots. If that relationship ends in marriage, yes, please! Otherwise, thanks no thanks. Simple.
From my experience, men expect me to take care of their household. Yes, their household, not ours. They see themselves as bread-winners and saviors and the first necessity in my life. I don't know why. I work and have my salary. I am in no need to be saved from anything. And no, I'm not interested in never-ending household mill.
I'd like to have a relationship there we are co-pilots. If that relationship ends in marriage, yes, please! Otherwise, thanks no thanks. Simple.
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Tulefell: No one is putting out for you? That explains.
No I'm just explaining a mans needs in a marriage and how they are not met in most
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LeeCharming: Do you read that rubbish in the feminist handbook of lies In some middle eastern countries...mistreatment of women is common practice and total submission is demanded...but never in western countries and women have always had it so good in western countries...just ask a feminist...if she would rather live in Pakistan and live under sharia law or live in the west and have total freedom
If you had a brain, you'd be dangerous.It wasn't made illegal in England until 1991
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mollybaby: It wasn't made illegal in England until 1991
According to feminists no doubt 
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LeeCharming: According to feminists no doubt
According to the law.If you ever bothered to look up actual facts.
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Hi everyone. I’m going to weigh in my beliefs of “What Killed Marriage”. Many of us boomers saw terribly unhappy marriages, often ending in bitter divorce. We don’t want that for ourselves. Life is just too short. Also, way too many completely unfair laws that usually screw (but not always) the man. Too many to list here, but those who pay attention and do their homework know that this is far too often true. Then, tax laws and policies that cripple finances. Case in point~~I have friends who are both completely dependent on social security and other benefits. They are very careful, very faith~oriented Bible believing, etc...and though their combined incomes are enough, it is “just enough”. If they marry, current law will cause the lesser recipient to lose that full income, plus benefits totaling half of the entire income. This man and woman are deeply in love, believe totally in marriage, but absolutely cannot. It would throw them under the bus. I am all for their staying together in a privately agreed upon union, in fact, I don’t believe the government should be involved in what I see as a private matter!
Sorry so long, guys, but felt like giving my take....
Sorry so long, guys, but felt like giving my take....
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