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Damn Bro u got shemped! Thats sad. I've had friends pull similar stuff taking advantage of my genorousity. LOSERS!!!! Let it go, I guess. Sad. I feel for ya.
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Lesson learned. That is why I do not loan money to friends, ever. They quickly become not friends!!!
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You have had two friends "borrow" 10,ooo dollars or more not to repay it. Why you are every one's best friend!
Do you really talk to these guys without ever mentioning that amount of cash?
I find this incredulous.
I realize you are a nice guy but OMG..too amazing.
Most amazing is how people with no conscience are able to sniff out people who let them walk all over them.
Do you really talk to these guys without ever mentioning that amount of cash?
I find this incredulous.
I realize you are a nice guy but OMG..too amazing.
Most amazing is how people with no conscience are able to sniff out people who let them walk all over them.
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WOW! What a story!
I would say because they hope to get some more from you. You are naive and helpfull (that's what they think about you)
You gave them those money and trusted them on a Word. You never took a signed agreement for paying back. Do you?
btw i have a few friends among Russian mafia who would solve your problem ... peacefully
I would say because they hope to get some more from you. You are naive and helpfull (that's what they think about you)
You gave them those money and trusted them on a Word. You never took a signed agreement for paying back. Do you?
btw i have a few friends among Russian mafia who would solve your problem ... peacefully
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It is always disconcerting and sad to see that some people have such little regard for others and especially for a true friend which is a rare thing; he is obviously very selfish and feels entitled. You are one hell of an unconditional friend, or at least you were for a long time. I feel for you and what happened; and I know from what you have said that at some point it wasn't about the money any more; it was about the hurt feelings and the friendship that got destroyed in the process. What I find very irritating too about this "friend" is his ruthlessness and nerve. How do you disappear on a friend like you and reappear when you feel like it, and expect to pick up where you left off? He sounds like a major jerk. 
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with friends like that, who needs enemies?
like my father always said "neither a borrower or lender be"
like my father always said "neither a borrower or lender be"
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borrow his new bike, without his permission and park it permanently in a river or lake
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i love peoples evil replys as it makes me feel better about thoughts i get
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Yeah Marina and he does that and he still does not get is money back...so nothing solved,STILL.
Eric perhaps even just asking hm for the interest on the monies you loaned.
Silence is deadly,and your voice needs to be heard.
Eric perhaps even just asking hm for the interest on the monies you loaned.
Silence is deadly,and your voice needs to be heard.
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I agree with Starlite, something at least needs to be said. Even if there's no financial reconciliation, at least it will put you on the path of straightening out the matter within yourself.
There's a flipside to this. Back in Michigan, I had a pretty tight circle of good friends. All of us being gearheads, there was, on occasion, some vehicular nepotism. I handed over the keys and title to several motorcycles and one car - the agreement was ever so simple - pay me when you can. All debts were reconciled as quickly as possible. I think there was sort of a Code of Honor that no one wished to break.
There's a flipside to this. Back in Michigan, I had a pretty tight circle of good friends. All of us being gearheads, there was, on occasion, some vehicular nepotism. I handed over the keys and title to several motorcycles and one car - the agreement was ever so simple - pay me when you can. All debts were reconciled as quickly as possible. I think there was sort of a Code of Honor that no one wished to break.
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Honey what have i said to you about this..but i know this has happen long b4 we have met..but you have me now and i have told you that you give to freely and i know you have a soft heart..and love to give..but there is a limit..it happend about a year and a half also to me..lend out thousands of dollars to someone but..not as much as you have..but did i hear again from this person No..So lesson learn for me...But i will always help my family if needed no matter if they repay me or not..That is what family is all about..but out to friends you really dont know..Nope...but always remember honey..What goes around come around...Love you...
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appears the amount was not big enough to bring about a response from you or cause you to think a good friend would be offended if asked to sign an agreement for the loan .... A true friend would have no problem signing such a paper. maybe next time if the amount is higher you'll be more inclined to protect your investment in your friendship.
you have now learned at what sum a friendship is worth... my sympathies to you.
I've loaned upwards to 5000.00 to friends, inlaws and always theres a signed agreement. nothing fancy an Iou, a payment plan or date and a signature. Friends are a rare commodity and a simple loan as compared to "here take it whenever you can pay it back." will in my experience assure the friendship will endure.
you have now learned at what sum a friendship is worth... my sympathies to you.
I've loaned upwards to 5000.00 to friends, inlaws and always theres a signed agreement. nothing fancy an Iou, a payment plan or date and a signature. Friends are a rare commodity and a simple loan as compared to "here take it whenever you can pay it back." will in my experience assure the friendship will endure.
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Thanks for sharing that, Eric. Pretty unbelievable - your "friend's" behavior. I think there is a lesson to be learned about loaning friends money (probably applies to family as well, to a lesser extent). If you want to be paid back, put it in writing - that is, have him sign a contract or equivalent note. That way you can obtain a judgment against him or her (which in this case would've been easier than heck to collect), if they don't want to do the right thing.
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I know the feeling Eric, been there done that..
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I personally think he keeps coming around because he KNOWS he owes you that money...what he's waiting for i'm not sure...
But if you've had enough, and feel like "the past" keeps chasing you...then tell him how you feel, what you think he owes you and be done with it...he'll either step up to the plate, or disappear forever...and if he does disappear it won't be anything lost....
But if you've had enough, and feel like "the past" keeps chasing you...then tell him how you feel, what you think he owes you and be done with it...he'll either step up to the plate, or disappear forever...and if he does disappear it won't be anything lost....
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OK let me elaberate...
I would never give out that kind of money to just anyone...
These were friends i had known since childhood... or a very long time (5 years or more)
And i never just gave on a whim... it was for family or business losses beginning to happen.
So no i don't do a dash for cash friendship
But i have found it so odd that when you give your trust to the closet people near you they will turn away for money... but if your life was on the line????... it just makes me wonder.... how true where they.
I would never give out that kind of money to just anyone...
These were friends i had known since childhood... or a very long time (5 years or more)
And i never just gave on a whim... it was for family or business losses beginning to happen.
So no i don't do a dash for cash friendship
But i have found it so odd that when you give your trust to the closet people near you they will turn away for money... but if your life was on the line????... it just makes me wonder.... how true where they.
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Hey Eric, can you lend me 10,000 until my brother staightens out?
He's a hunchback
He's a hunchback
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hey lady
hope you have been well... Happy New Year to you.
Anyone who truly knows me ... knows I'am not a selfish man.
and no i never ask for signed agreements or contracts.
these are not the only two but the most expensive...
i have been fortunate in my past to be successful at the business choices i made... so the money was never the issue... whether it was 2,000 or 20,000.
The problem with me was i was helping a friend in need and when it came time for them to be true to there word... they had no words, expected that thier friendship meant more than money... and it did.
But it did not mean more than honesty... and that ended it, i feel like if they placed a value monetaraly on our friendship... then it was paid in full and needed no more invested.
I do not care about to many material things.
But trust,faith, and honesty mean everything to me....
if anyone ever broke those sacred bonds with no discourse about it... then i have no need for them in my life.
thank you for your coments, and i appreciate the offer to do a little return on investment business
But really all i am doing is getting this issue off my chest...
I will never call this old friend ...And hope that he will not bother trying to become a friend to me again.
Because i may not always be peaceful about my issue with him if pushed on it...
hope you have been well... Happy New Year to you.
Anyone who truly knows me ... knows I'am not a selfish man.
and no i never ask for signed agreements or contracts.
these are not the only two but the most expensive...
i have been fortunate in my past to be successful at the business choices i made... so the money was never the issue... whether it was 2,000 or 20,000.
The problem with me was i was helping a friend in need and when it came time for them to be true to there word... they had no words, expected that thier friendship meant more than money... and it did.
But it did not mean more than honesty... and that ended it, i feel like if they placed a value monetaraly on our friendship... then it was paid in full and needed no more invested.
I do not care about to many material things.
But trust,faith, and honesty mean everything to me....
if anyone ever broke those sacred bonds with no discourse about it... then i have no need for them in my life.
thank you for your coments, and i appreciate the offer to do a little return on investment business
But really all i am doing is getting this issue off my chest...
I will never call this old friend ...And hope that he will not bother trying to become a friend to me again.
Because i may not always be peaceful about my issue with him if pushed on it...
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I'm not staying in here if you got the farts. 
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The Friend who was my running mate during the roughest time in my life back in the late 70s and early 80s.
Who was the Young Brother in law to (NO names) one of the Ghost riders Charter Bike club.
This Friend Wrecked his motorcycle back in 1996 and was hurt really bad.
I loaned him 20,000.00 so that he could pay medical bills and keep his home and family up.
he had told me he would pay me back as soon as he got his settlement.
When he did get it he dissapeared... and i did not hear from him in months.
He contacted me then and asked me to come by and visit.and told me where his new location was at.
So i did... and he shows me his new House in a new neighborhood, he bought the lot nextdoor for a bigger yard and added a bike Garage to it... new swimming pool and a boat new car and truck...
you getting the picture?
He never offered me back one cent... so i came around for about 3 months...waiting and kindly pointing out about how he was doing so much better...
One day his Brother offered to invite me to go boating with them (fishing)... My boat was being repaired... so i agreed.
Then my friend who owed me all this money said to me on the phone... you can come if you buy the beer... i don't drink beer.
i was then told no beer no room...
so i never called or went by again.
even when his daughter was murdered... i stayed away, just sent a card offering my condolences.
December 26,2007
A Black Harley Davidson all trimmed out pulls up in my Driveway as me and the girls are leaving to go meet some CS members at Cherokee Haeeah's Casino.
And it is my old friend... 11 years later... he found out i was back in town and living here permenant so he thought he would visit.
i forgave him years ago for the debt but still have no desire to be friends again...
But he is giving me his phone number, telling me about his Son, and bragging on his 26,000.00 investment into his latest Bike.
I guess i'am not so angry in him as i am disapointed... he was there when another friend took 10,000.00 from me and never even tried to pay it back.
i know people face things everyday...
But don't you think if we try to leave the past in the past... it should not come knocking on our doors without warning...
Somethings i think are better left behind... so why do they keep chasing you???