God vs. Science ( Archived) (902)

Oct 30, 2008 6:38 PM CST God vs. Science
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Flourish: Oh maaannnn...
Thank God you haven't blown their covers. Just imagine next time a fan went to a Star Wars convention or Maccas...This is just between us, right!?


uh oh wow Ah, well, that and another couple of people who might be reading these forums...uh oh doh
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Oct 30, 2008 6:41 PM CST God vs. Science
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
MikeHD: What do you mean, "no one can testify to god as real"?How many do you think I could line up to testify that God is more real to them than any emotion they have ever felt?

I'll do it! I'll line them up!

And will find the craziest, most zealous, and totally opinionated people I can find...

just for some added entertainment value.

Can you imagine...

I get all the crazies from my side, and you get all the crazies (like Cro <-- sorry I could not resist) from your side, and we just pop some popcorn and watch the festivities.

Now that would be a party! Thats it for me tonight! I'm out!


Not so fond of your analytical skills, Mike, but you do rock as a party-planner!cheering
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Oct 30, 2008 6:42 PM CST God vs. Science
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
MikeHD:

I'll do it! I'll line them up!

And will find the craziest, most zealous, and totally opinionated people I can find...

just for some added entertainment value.

Can you imagine...

I get all the crazies from my side, and you get all the crazies (like Cro <-- sorry I could not resist) from your side, and we just pop some popcorn and watch the festivities.

Now that would be a party!


Holy War? rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 30, 2008 6:43 PM CST God vs. Science
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
MikeHD: What do you mean, "no one can testify to god as real"?How many do you think I could line up to testify that God is more real to them than any emotion they have ever felt?



crazies huh... you're still talking about people who can only "imagine" god is reality, not people who can prove he/she/it is reality. roll eyes
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Oct 30, 2008 6:44 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
MikeHD: What do you mean, "no one can testify to god as real"?How many do you think I could line up to testify that God is more real to them than any emotion they have ever felt?

I'll do it! I'll line them up!

And will find the craziest, most zealous, and totally opinionated people I can find...

just for some added entertainment value.

Can you imagine...

I get all the crazies from my side, and you get all the crazies (like Cro <-- sorry I could not resist) from your side, and we just pop some popcorn and watch the festivities.

Now that would be a party! Thats it for me tonight! I'm out!


I did a pretty good blog on the workings of the brain Mike - its on page 2 or 3 by now but it does pin point the parts of the brain which are respnsible for the sort of stuff you are speaking of - as well as many another aspect of brain activity too - well worth a read thumbs up

another of the 'crazies' speaking up.......... Hi Mike laugh wave
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Oct 30, 2008 6:45 PM CST God vs. Science
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
StressFree: Holy War?


rolling on the floor laughing

a Jihad -Mikehad laugh
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Oct 30, 2008 6:45 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
MikeHD: Trish, I am sorry...

but you made me laugh.

You more described the way the thoery of evolution was derived than than what creationists have done. Thank you.


Mike, you illustrate my point marvelously laugh
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Oct 30, 2008 6:57 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
MikeHD: Yes, very poor.

Had to go back to school because I just got too poor. But I do find it interesting that the so-called thoery of evolution always bypasses step number 4.

Many people think of an experiment as something that takes place in a lab. While this can be true, experiments don't have to involve laboratory workbenches, Bunsen burners or test tubes. They do, however, have to be set up to test a specific hypothesis and they must be controlled. Controlling an experiment means controlling all of the variables so that only a single variable is studied. The independent variable is the one that's controlled and manipulated by the experimenter, whereas the dependent variable is not. As the independent variable is manipulated, the dependent variable is measured for variation. Controlling an experiment also means setting it up so it has a control group and an experimental group. The control group allows the experimenter to compare his test results against a baseline measurement so he can feel confident that those results are not due to chance. If this scientist is doing his job right, he's observing a control group and an experimental group.

I'm sorry, but I missed the part where scientist duplicated MACRO -evolution. Where they were able to observe evolution in a control environment so that comprehensive data could be collected.

I missed that part.


Mike, are you being deliberately misleading or what?

You conduct a fair test by making sure that you change one factor at a time while keeping all other conditions the same - not by shifting the goalposts at every given opportunity........... If the dependent variable is based on eroneous findings it is pretty damned worthless.........

However, no matter how you choose to compound the issues here - it is still up to the person making a claim to prove it - so, mix your variables however you choose............ your claim remains unproven.......... give us some tangible evidence, some irrefutable findings - give us the 'wow' factor without the brainwash - you may then find a good few more joining in with the soul harvesting - till then though......................
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Oct 30, 2008 7:01 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
MikeHD: No Cro, only in the pure imagination of a few select men calling themselves scientist is the chance a billion to one. Try 1X10^64 (that is a 1 followed by 64 zeros) to one. I am sorry, but there are a ton of galaxies, and solar systems, and planets, but there are not anywhere close to that number.


and your references for this conclusion are?....................
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Oct 30, 2008 7:03 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Hi AL bouquet wave
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Oct 30, 2008 7:04 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Conrad73: Scientific Method=Ana Account being constantly examined and Updated!
Faith/Creationism=Account Closed.


Hello Conrad wave thumbs up bouquet
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Oct 30, 2008 7:05 PM CST God vs. Science
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
crotalus_p: Poor poor mike


Hiya Crotalus hug wave
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Oct 31, 2008 8:48 AM CST God vs. Science
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
trish123: Hiya Crotalus


Hi hun wave kiss
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Oct 31, 2008 8:58 AM CST God vs. Science
trish123: Hello Conrad
Hi trish!
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Oct 31, 2008 10:04 AM CST God vs. Science
BnaturAl: crazies huh... you're still talking about people who can only "imagine" god is reality, not people who can prove he/she/it is reality.



They can prove God is a reality just as you could prove that "love" is a reality. wink
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Oct 31, 2008 10:18 AM CST God vs. Science
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
MikeHD: They can prove God is a reality just as you could prove that "love" is a reality.


you're back to saying god is an emotion again...is he/she/it a being or an emotion????


can they prove god is a reality like we can prove that you are a reality ... stop with the non sequiturs ok laugh
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Oct 31, 2008 10:23 AM CST God vs. Science
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France81 Threads 4 Polls 3,669 Posts
BnaturAl: you're back to saying god is an emotion again...is he/she/it a being or an emotion????can they prove god is a reality like we can prove that you are a reality ... stop with the non sequiturs ok


Ok folks I own up phoenix is my alter ego...I am god...
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Oct 31, 2008 10:41 AM CST God vs. Science
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
phoenix: Ok folks I own up phoenix is my alter ego...I am god...


something is definitely altered laugh
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Oct 31, 2008 10:49 AM CST God vs. Science
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Hmmm, I thought J_Goose was god.confused

How many gods are there?laugh
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Oct 31, 2008 10:54 AM CST God vs. Science
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
kidatheart: Hmmm, I thought J_Goose was god.

How many gods are there?


I think he surrendered his omniscience when he chose human love ... the post became vacant so ... confused
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