unconditional love is.... (62)
How an animal loves it's owner.....they do love unconditionally I believe...altho they so do love to be shown love in return ....but I do not believe they require you to do so.
grizzwald: How an animal loves it's owner.....they do love unconditionally I believe...altho they so do love to be shown love in return ....but I do not believe they require you to do so.
Agree with you Grizzy. My daughter has had dogs, sometimes three at a time and I've seen how they do love unconditionally. She adopts them from kennels so they won't be put down and they have been the best dogs. They don't need anything but food, water and shelter but they get so much more from her...
Unconditional love is...
a fantasy. And yes, you actually can stop loving your dogs and even your children given certain behaviors and conditions (admittedly not sure about cats...but then I'm a cat person
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The fantasy is that someone can love us in some absolute manner that is independent of anything we do or anything that happens. It's as comforting as any religions myth - and serves the same function.
If someone could love you in that absolute love sense, if you truly dug into the implications of such a love, you wouldn't want it. What you want instead is to be loved for who you are. Unconditional love wouldn't care about who you are.
It's sort of an eating cake and having it sort of situation. We want to be loved for who we are, of course, but we also want a *guarantee* that we will always be loved. Hence the fantasy of this absolute love. The problem is that the two are logically mutually exclusive.
The not so sad truth is that we have to be content with a love that has no guarantees - a love that we can in fact destroy as well as grow. You could almost see it as a "free will" sort of issue. To be deprived of the power to choose wrongly - to choose in a way that destroys love - is the power of free choice. To not have that power, though it may appear comforting, is to be an automaton.
a fantasy. And yes, you actually can stop loving your dogs and even your children given certain behaviors and conditions (admittedly not sure about cats...but then I'm a cat person
)The fantasy is that someone can love us in some absolute manner that is independent of anything we do or anything that happens. It's as comforting as any religions myth - and serves the same function.
If someone could love you in that absolute love sense, if you truly dug into the implications of such a love, you wouldn't want it. What you want instead is to be loved for who you are. Unconditional love wouldn't care about who you are.
It's sort of an eating cake and having it sort of situation. We want to be loved for who we are, of course, but we also want a *guarantee* that we will always be loved. Hence the fantasy of this absolute love. The problem is that the two are logically mutually exclusive.
The not so sad truth is that we have to be content with a love that has no guarantees - a love that we can in fact destroy as well as grow. You could almost see it as a "free will" sort of issue. To be deprived of the power to choose wrongly - to choose in a way that destroys love - is the power of free choice. To not have that power, though it may appear comforting, is to be an automaton.
Olsojente: BS... unless it's for your children...
for my kids
for some reason my quote button does not work in this thread ....however that post was to respond to Ambrose's post.
waterone: Brain massage
if it exist...
it is an ideal state of complete acceptance, and how close each of us comes to that ideal depends on our own thoughts and actions, and of course the degree we are able to love and tolerate another
It takes a lot of tolerance to love unconditionally - I think to be able to do so
It takes a lot of tolerance to love unconditionally - I think to be able to do so
Well, no doubt it's a question of semantics - how we define "unconditional love." No one seems to actually mean by that what the words would strongly suggest - that is, literally love without conditions - because of the obvious impossibility/absurdity of that.
To completely accept someone as they are, for instance, doesn't mean you would accept someone no matter what their behaviors. It just means you accept the person completely as they are currently behaving. There's no guarantee that you would continue accepting someone completely if they changed in negative ways, no?
To completely accept someone as they are, for instance, doesn't mean you would accept someone no matter what their behaviors. It just means you accept the person completely as they are currently behaving. There's no guarantee that you would continue accepting someone completely if they changed in negative ways, no?
unconditional love is....
An absurd concept...
An absurd concept...
Loving without Valuing?
.............To love is to value. The man who tells you that it is possible to value without values, to love those whom you appraise as worthless, is the man who tells you that it is possible to grow rich by consuming without producing and that paper money is as valuable as gold . . . . When it comes to love, the highest of emotions, you permit them to shriek at you accusingly that you are a moral delinquent if you’re incapable of feeling causeless love. When a man feels fear without reason, you call him to the attention of a psychiatrist; you are not so careful to protect the meaning, the nature and the dignity of love..............
.............To love is to value. The man who tells you that it is possible to value without values, to love those whom you appraise as worthless, is the man who tells you that it is possible to grow rich by consuming without producing and that paper money is as valuable as gold . . . . When it comes to love, the highest of emotions, you permit them to shriek at you accusingly that you are a moral delinquent if you’re incapable of feeling causeless love. When a man feels fear without reason, you call him to the attention of a psychiatrist; you are not so careful to protect the meaning, the nature and the dignity of love..............
I believe in ...100% true love ,,,,not unconditional...love...jmho.
if you love someone... shouldn't be unconditional? 
country_lady67: if you love someone... shouldn't be unconditional?
hi.....C/L....doesent a 100%....sound better tho.....??............ is something to aspire to............ to receive as well as to give
100% true.. is like with your whole heart...hmmm ok
smitty59: a grandparent,was blessed to know a couple of mine.miss them lots.
Poppycock
me & my chocolate 
country_lady67: 100% true.. is like with your whole heart...hmmm ok
Sometimes impossible, I mean, what if she took your last beer!!!!!!!!
lavina: me & my chocolate
But you only love your chocolate on the condition....that it doesn't make you fat!
yabbadabbadont: But you only love your chocolate on the condition....that it doesn't make you fat!
well that's why I love it cos can't make me fat
lavina: well that's why I love it cos can't make me fat
We will see if thats still the case once you get over 40......
yabbadabbadont: We will see if thats still the case once you get over 40......
wanna bet?
or you just jealous with the chocolate
lavina: wanna bet?
or you just jealous with the chocolate
or you just jealous with the chocolate
Yes.....I am sad that the chocolate gets more love from you, than I do....
Very upsetting!!!
yabbadabbadont: Yes.....I am sad that the chocolate gets more love from you, than I do....
Very upsetting!!!
Very upsetting!!!
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Unconditional love is 101% exist.. My Mum with us her children 
Pearlasian: Unconditional love is 101% exist.. My Mum with us her children
Thats choice
Not all Mums are like that.....
Mine is tho
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