Does a creator God exist? (39)
Dupiche: It is a simple questions that is still being debated after all these years. In reality, we all know the true answer deep inside our soul.
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Yes I agree with you, we all know the true answer deep inside our soul is that there is no god, and that religion was created in order to control the gullible people.
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Immutable laws of reality exist that govern all of creation, this is what I consider to be God.
From what I see of humanity, I find that it is the Atheistic societies of Whites that are farthest removed from common sense and reality during this time. It is here in post-sanity secular societies where we're most likely to indulge in the psychological bubbles(both economic and moral)of the decadent fantasyland removed from reality and basic functionality.
So as much as posturing intellectuals scoff at religious peoples, it is actually the sheep, and not the clever sillies, that are most aware of the fact that they were born.
From what I see of humanity, I find that it is the Atheistic societies of Whites that are farthest removed from common sense and reality during this time. It is here in post-sanity secular societies where we're most likely to indulge in the psychological bubbles(both economic and moral)of the decadent fantasyland removed from reality and basic functionality.
So as much as posturing intellectuals scoff at religious peoples, it is actually the sheep, and not the clever sillies, that are most aware of the fact that they were born.
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Yes God exists, creation stands as witness from clouds, sun, moon, stars, every creeping creature, birds of the air, giraffes that stand taller than trees, elephants, lions, plants, the fullness of the ocean to name but a few, humans inclusive. These things reflect undisputable proof of the intelligence that orchestrated the beginning of life on earth! All creation echoes of Gods grandeur and majesty. Only fools dispute this living proof
Stay blessed and enjoy this beautiful day that Yahweh has made
-L
Stay blessed and enjoy this beautiful day that Yahweh has made
-L
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Ehrr..
NO.
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for those who believe in God - definitely of course, for those who do not believe not - definitely not 
For me, yes. God Creator, God Father, God Light etc.
For those who believe in Bing Bang
...and where had appeared the prime matter before Bing Bang?... 
Good Luck with explanations...
For me, yes. God Creator, God Father, God Light etc.
For those who believe in Bing Bang
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I don't belong to a religion but God has to be real. It is impossible to get something from nothing, nothing creates itself and conditions never set themselves up they have to be set up. Truth is always consistent so if evolution is the truth it would have to be consistent throughout in its explanations, but it isn't. These evolution types are always going on about evidence but there are evidences that do not support what they believe; The scientific community is also not united on this point there are those who will tell you God has to be real as well as those who say God is not real. They tend to focus on natural explanations to explain everything but these explanations are not adequate and consistent.
Evolution theory states that we came from animals therefore human morality also came from animals, but is human morality compatible with evolutionary logic? For me the answer is no. Those that have studied morality will know that it is not passed on biologically, for example, a couple with a high standard of morality have a child, notice the morality they have is not passed on genetically is has to be learned from scratch. This means it has to be learned it has to be taught and there is always a moral role model. Evolutionary logic does not allow for any moral role model and if you bring it up to present day there is no animal in the world today even with a human as a role model that can attain or understand human morality. So, how did they manage it millions of years ago with no role model? Also the logic does just not fit either. The logic is that environmental change forced the animals to change and adapt and so develop in to humans; on the face of it it has some plausibility but it runs out of steam when morality is introduced. How do natural things such as trees, rocks, water, sun, air plants and so on, give animals a moral capacity and a conscience? Environment has nothing to do with right and wrong or justice issues so the answer is it never could have done. It means that human morality had to come from a moral source and could never come from a purely natural source. God of course is a moral being with the power to instil us with the moral capacity we have. If evolution was true then humans should not have a moral capacity.
I once heard a scientist say that we don't need God to be moral but is this true? Does morality really work without God? Without God at the top of our moral tree then we place ourself that it at the top of our moral tree. This means private morality which is what the evolution types believe in meaning that our moral code has been set up by us with our own set of dos and don't rights and wrongs. Does private morality really work though? Private morality opens the door for the abusers and for the strong to have their way over the weak. The abusers and the strong also have private morality but just a different set of rights and wrongs, their own moral code. Justice involves protection so how do the weak protect themselves from the strong? Well, they can't, in the secular system the police are there for that but we all know they are never there when you need them so the system is inadequate. This all means that there is a need for God and a need for real justice. Many say that people have beaten the system and escaped justice because they have never been caught or they die without facing the justice system so again there is a need for God as only God could administer justice after death therefore not escaping justice. Do we need God for morality to work and for justice to be real? The answer is yes. There is a need for God in this world for justice, to show us how to live together without conflict and in harmony. There are needs in this world that natural remedies or explanations just cannot solve as they are limited and inconsistent. God must be real.
Evolution theory states that we came from animals therefore human morality also came from animals, but is human morality compatible with evolutionary logic? For me the answer is no. Those that have studied morality will know that it is not passed on biologically, for example, a couple with a high standard of morality have a child, notice the morality they have is not passed on genetically is has to be learned from scratch. This means it has to be learned it has to be taught and there is always a moral role model. Evolutionary logic does not allow for any moral role model and if you bring it up to present day there is no animal in the world today even with a human as a role model that can attain or understand human morality. So, how did they manage it millions of years ago with no role model? Also the logic does just not fit either. The logic is that environmental change forced the animals to change and adapt and so develop in to humans; on the face of it it has some plausibility but it runs out of steam when morality is introduced. How do natural things such as trees, rocks, water, sun, air plants and so on, give animals a moral capacity and a conscience? Environment has nothing to do with right and wrong or justice issues so the answer is it never could have done. It means that human morality had to come from a moral source and could never come from a purely natural source. God of course is a moral being with the power to instil us with the moral capacity we have. If evolution was true then humans should not have a moral capacity.
I once heard a scientist say that we don't need God to be moral but is this true? Does morality really work without God? Without God at the top of our moral tree then we place ourself that it at the top of our moral tree. This means private morality which is what the evolution types believe in meaning that our moral code has been set up by us with our own set of dos and don't rights and wrongs. Does private morality really work though? Private morality opens the door for the abusers and for the strong to have their way over the weak. The abusers and the strong also have private morality but just a different set of rights and wrongs, their own moral code. Justice involves protection so how do the weak protect themselves from the strong? Well, they can't, in the secular system the police are there for that but we all know they are never there when you need them so the system is inadequate. This all means that there is a need for God and a need for real justice. Many say that people have beaten the system and escaped justice because they have never been caught or they die without facing the justice system so again there is a need for God as only God could administer justice after death therefore not escaping justice. Do we need God for morality to work and for justice to be real? The answer is yes. There is a need for God in this world for justice, to show us how to live together without conflict and in harmony. There are needs in this world that natural remedies or explanations just cannot solve as they are limited and inconsistent. God must be real.
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The word "God" has been creating a mental image through thousands of years of misuse. A mental representation of someone or something outside you, and almost always a male something or someone.
I believe the word means 'being' which is more of an open concept. Sometimes it seems, rather ironically the the word God is a hindrance in enabling you to experience that towards which it points.
The force of being cannot be explained in words, nor can it be depicted by some kind of mental image...imo.
I believe the word means 'being' which is more of an open concept. Sometimes it seems, rather ironically the the word God is a hindrance in enabling you to experience that towards which it points.
The force of being cannot be explained in words, nor can it be depicted by some kind of mental image...imo.
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bodleing: The word "God" has been creating a mental image through thousands of years of misuse. A mental representation of someone or something outside you, and almost always a male something or someone.
I believe the word means 'being' which is more of an open concept. Sometimes it seems, rather ironically the the word God is a hindrance in enabling you to experience that towards which it points.
The force of being cannot be explained in words, nor can it be depicted by some kind of mental image...imo.
I believe the word means 'being' which is more of an open concept. Sometimes it seems, rather ironically the the word God is a hindrance in enabling you to experience that towards which it points.
The force of being cannot be explained in words, nor can it be depicted by some kind of mental image...imo.
Hm.
I can live with that.
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if she/he does, i want them to come here and have a serious chat. 
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jac379: Hm.
I can live with that.
I can live with that.
Not a direct quote or copy and paste, but I am grateful to Eckhart Tolle for this insight. He helped me find my god...within me.
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i agree with u...WELL SAID MY DEAR
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For those who believe, it creates a purpose. Although some take it too far to the level of extreme. For those that want to believe it afford time for thought and that is not such a bad thing. I believe that God, Religion, Heaven, and Hell are man's creations. When we die, we all go back to the earth. Could not our Heaven be the good thoughts and memories that people have of us and Hell be the bad thoughts and memories? 
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Oops indeed!
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Captainwm: I don't belong to a religion but God has to be real. It is impossible to get something from nothing, nothing creates itself and conditions never set themselves up they have to be set up. Truth is always consistent so if evolution is the truth it would have to be consistent throughout in its explanations, but it isn't. These evolution types are always going on about evidence but there are evidences that do not support what they believe; The scientific community is also not united on this point there are those who will tell you God has to be real as well as those who say God is not real. They tend to focus on natural explanations to explain everything but these explanations are not adequate and consistent.
Evolution theory states that we came from animals therefore human morality also came from animals, but is human morality compatible with evolutionary logic? For me the answer is no. Those that have studied morality will know that it is not passed on biologically, for example, a couple with a high standard of morality have a child, notice the morality they have is not passed on genetically is has to be learned from scratch. This means it has to be learned it has to be taught and there is always a moral role model. Evolutionary logic does not allow for any moral role model and if you bring it up to present day there is no animal in the world today even with a human as a role model that can attain or understand human morality. So, how did they manage it millions of years ago with no role model? Also the logic does just not fit either. The logic is that environmental change forced the animals to change and adapt and so develop in to humans; on the face of it it has some plausibility but it runs out of steam when morality is introduced. How do natural things such as trees, rocks, water, sun, air plants and so on, give animals a moral capacity and a conscience? Environment has nothing to do with right and wrong or justice issues so the answer is it never could have done. It means that human morality had to come from a moral source and could never come from a purely natural source. God of course is a moral being with the power to instil us with the moral capacity we have. If evolution was true then humans should not have a moral capacity.
I once heard a scientist say that we don't need God to be moral but is this true? Does morality really work without God? Without God at the top of our moral tree then we place ourself that it at the top of our moral tree. This means private morality which is what the evolution types believe in meaning that our moral code has been set up by us with our own set of dos and don't rights and wrongs. Does private morality really work though? Private morality opens the door for the abusers and for the strong to have their way over the weak. The abusers and the strong also have private morality but just a different set of rights and wrongs, their own moral code. Justice involves protection so how do the weak protect themselves from the strong? Well, they can't, in the secular system the police are there for that but we all know they are never there when you need them so the system is inadequate. This all means that there is a need for God and a need for real justice. Many say that people have beaten the system and escaped justice because they have never been caught or they die without facing the justice system so again there is a need for God as only God could administer justice after death therefore not escaping justice. Do we need God for morality to work and for justice to be real? The answer is yes. There is a need for God in this world for justice, to show us how to live together without conflict and in harmony. There are needs in this world that natural remedies or explanations just cannot solve as they are limited and inconsistent. God must be real.
Evolution theory states that we came from animals therefore human morality also came from animals, but is human morality compatible with evolutionary logic? For me the answer is no. Those that have studied morality will know that it is not passed on biologically, for example, a couple with a high standard of morality have a child, notice the morality they have is not passed on genetically is has to be learned from scratch. This means it has to be learned it has to be taught and there is always a moral role model. Evolutionary logic does not allow for any moral role model and if you bring it up to present day there is no animal in the world today even with a human as a role model that can attain or understand human morality. So, how did they manage it millions of years ago with no role model? Also the logic does just not fit either. The logic is that environmental change forced the animals to change and adapt and so develop in to humans; on the face of it it has some plausibility but it runs out of steam when morality is introduced. How do natural things such as trees, rocks, water, sun, air plants and so on, give animals a moral capacity and a conscience? Environment has nothing to do with right and wrong or justice issues so the answer is it never could have done. It means that human morality had to come from a moral source and could never come from a purely natural source. God of course is a moral being with the power to instil us with the moral capacity we have. If evolution was true then humans should not have a moral capacity.
I once heard a scientist say that we don't need God to be moral but is this true? Does morality really work without God? Without God at the top of our moral tree then we place ourself that it at the top of our moral tree. This means private morality which is what the evolution types believe in meaning that our moral code has been set up by us with our own set of dos and don't rights and wrongs. Does private morality really work though? Private morality opens the door for the abusers and for the strong to have their way over the weak. The abusers and the strong also have private morality but just a different set of rights and wrongs, their own moral code. Justice involves protection so how do the weak protect themselves from the strong? Well, they can't, in the secular system the police are there for that but we all know they are never there when you need them so the system is inadequate. This all means that there is a need for God and a need for real justice. Many say that people have beaten the system and escaped justice because they have never been caught or they die without facing the justice system so again there is a need for God as only God could administer justice after death therefore not escaping justice. Do we need God for morality to work and for justice to be real? The answer is yes. There is a need for God in this world for justice, to show us how to live together without conflict and in harmony. There are needs in this world that natural remedies or explanations just cannot solve as they are limited and inconsistent. God must be real.
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I doubt that any human religion is 'correct', ie that it actually represents revealed truth. I believe i the Big Bang and that all subsequent development was strictly according to the laws of nature
I am willing to believe that something (and 'a God' is a good enough term) may have caused the Big Bang. But then I'm not a scientist and my view should be treated as unscientific as a result.
I am willing to believe that something (and 'a God' is a good enough term) may have caused the Big Bang. But then I'm not a scientist and my view should be treated as unscientific as a result.
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The God central to four of the five of the world's major monotheistc religions is an improvable human construct. Debating His existence is as futile as the proverbial 'fighting for peace' because for those who already believe in His existence, He is real. For those who do not believe in His existence or are uncertain, His existence cannot be proven imperically and therfore illogical.
People are confused about the fact that religions are belief systems (as opposed to facts). By nature they are factless, improvable and frequently irrational and require faith for the followers to believe. This is fundamental for any relgion to gain traction. If any part of the pretext can be supported or disproved by evidence the it will cease to become part of a religion and become part of science/history.
A rather compelling logic which precludes the existence of an all-powerful deity is that mankind has frequently been beset by disasters. Plagues, pestilence, wars and various natural disasters which we often ascribe as 'acts of God' have had very desctructive affects on large sections of global human populations. If God were all-powefrul and benevolent then he would be both capable and inclined to prevent such catastrophes from wreaking havoc on his 'favourite' species.
Consider the hundreds of thousands of young children who die from starvation or malnutrition in the least affluent parts of the planet every decade. One can very easily assert the few of these innocents deserved to die. If He existed and were a kindly God he would prevent such atrocity.
He doesn't therfore we can only conclude that if He exists, He is either unable or unwilling to help those most in need and thus is either impotent or evil.
More likely, He is a fiction.
People are confused about the fact that religions are belief systems (as opposed to facts). By nature they are factless, improvable and frequently irrational and require faith for the followers to believe. This is fundamental for any relgion to gain traction. If any part of the pretext can be supported or disproved by evidence the it will cease to become part of a religion and become part of science/history.
A rather compelling logic which precludes the existence of an all-powerful deity is that mankind has frequently been beset by disasters. Plagues, pestilence, wars and various natural disasters which we often ascribe as 'acts of God' have had very desctructive affects on large sections of global human populations. If God were all-powefrul and benevolent then he would be both capable and inclined to prevent such catastrophes from wreaking havoc on his 'favourite' species.
Consider the hundreds of thousands of young children who die from starvation or malnutrition in the least affluent parts of the planet every decade. One can very easily assert the few of these innocents deserved to die. If He existed and were a kindly God he would prevent such atrocity.
He doesn't therfore we can only conclude that if He exists, He is either unable or unwilling to help those most in need and thus is either impotent or evil.
More likely, He is a fiction.
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rizlared: Yes I agree with you, we all know the true answer deep inside our soul is that there is no god, and that religion was created in order to control the gullible people.
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bodleing: The word "God" has been creating a mental image through thousands of years of misuse. A mental representation of someone or something outside you, and almost always a male something or someone.
I believe the word means 'being' which is more of an open concept. Sometimes it seems, rather ironically the the word God is a hindrance in enabling you to experience that towards which it points.
The force of being cannot be explained in words, nor can it be depicted by some kind of mental image...imo.
I believe the word means 'being' which is more of an open concept. Sometimes it seems, rather ironically the the word God is a hindrance in enabling you to experience that towards which it points.
The force of being cannot be explained in words, nor can it be depicted by some kind of mental image...imo.
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Religious zealots they do believe exists,scientists still searching,if ever has been a creator.- 2 schools of believers,the FOR and AGAINST, giving us a choice.-
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“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”
? Albert Einstein
? Albert Einstein
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Rubicon76: The God central to four of the five of the world's major monotheistc religions is an improvable human construct. Debating His existence is as futile as the proverbial 'fighting for peace' because for those who already believe in His existence, He is real. For those who do not believe in His existence or are uncertain, His existence cannot be proven imperically and therfore illogical.
People are confused about the fact that religions are belief systems (as opposed to facts). By nature they are factless, improvable and frequently irrational and require faith for the followers to believe. This is fundamental for any relgion to gain traction. If any part of the pretext can be supported or disproved by evidence the it will cease to become part of a religion and become part of science/history.
A rather compelling logic which precludes the existence of an all-powerful deity is that mankind has frequently been beset by disasters. Plagues, pestilence, wars and various natural disasters which we often ascribe as 'acts of God' have had very desctructive affects on large sections of global human populations. If God were all-powefrul and benevolent then he would be both capable and inclined to prevent such catastrophes from wreaking havoc on his 'favourite' species.
Consider the hundreds of thousands of young children who die from starvation or malnutrition in the least affluent parts of the planet every decade. One can very easily assert the few of these innocents deserved to die. If He existed and were a kindly God he would prevent such atrocity.
He doesn't therfore we can only conclude that if He exists, He is either unable or unwilling to help those most in need and thus is either impotent or evil.
More likely, He is a fiction.
People are confused about the fact that religions are belief systems (as opposed to facts). By nature they are factless, improvable and frequently irrational and require faith for the followers to believe. This is fundamental for any relgion to gain traction. If any part of the pretext can be supported or disproved by evidence the it will cease to become part of a religion and become part of science/history.
A rather compelling logic which precludes the existence of an all-powerful deity is that mankind has frequently been beset by disasters. Plagues, pestilence, wars and various natural disasters which we often ascribe as 'acts of God' have had very desctructive affects on large sections of global human populations. If God were all-powefrul and benevolent then he would be both capable and inclined to prevent such catastrophes from wreaking havoc on his 'favourite' species.
Consider the hundreds of thousands of young children who die from starvation or malnutrition in the least affluent parts of the planet every decade. One can very easily assert the few of these innocents deserved to die. If He existed and were a kindly God he would prevent such atrocity.
He doesn't therfore we can only conclude that if He exists, He is either unable or unwilling to help those most in need and thus is either impotent or evil.
More likely, He is a fiction.
The devil is gods best friend, he's kept him in business all these years,,,
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Well at least to think and be good that there is a good god out there. Maybe that is a sensible why to think. "What is good"
Maybe it keeps our morals safe.
Maybe it keeps our morals safe.
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Dupiche: It is a simple questions that is still being debated after all these years. In reality, we all know the true answer deep inside our soul.
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Why would one have a problem with the "beginning" of everything that exists, and frantically explain it with creation theories, but not with whether god has a beginning or not.
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she told me yesterday she's being unfair for a reason....... creator god.... wtf...
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Dadude62: “The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom the emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapped in awe, is as good as dead —his eyes are closed. The insight into the mystery of life, coupled though it be with fear, has also given rise to religion. To know what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms—this knowledge, this feeling is at the center of true religiousness.”? Albert Einstein
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I don't know what your purpose of this poll is....
But more to the point, is that belief in God, or non-belief in God, is a matter of faith.
It is scientifically unprovable either way. This is the reality until we die.... then we will know one way or the other for sure.
Me personally, I've had too many experiences that prove unquestioningly to me that God is real, God exists, and that Jesus is the very true son of God. Not one of these proofs came from religion.
I don't mind those who choose not to believe in God. That is their faith.
Ultimately human beings are "faith" beings. We all live by faith in something. If nothing else, then faith in ourselves.
So how about instead of making up a poll like this that you know will inevitably stir up both sides, you try to come up with something that will promote peace amongst people and not fuel the fires of division?
Now wouldn't it be a wonderful world if everybody did that?
But more to the point, is that belief in God, or non-belief in God, is a matter of faith.
It is scientifically unprovable either way. This is the reality until we die.... then we will know one way or the other for sure.
Me personally, I've had too many experiences that prove unquestioningly to me that God is real, God exists, and that Jesus is the very true son of God. Not one of these proofs came from religion.
I don't mind those who choose not to believe in God. That is their faith.
Ultimately human beings are "faith" beings. We all live by faith in something. If nothing else, then faith in ourselves.
So how about instead of making up a poll like this that you know will inevitably stir up both sides, you try to come up with something that will promote peace amongst people and not fuel the fires of division?
Now wouldn't it be a wonderful world if everybody did that?
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Dupiche: It is a simple questions that is still being debated after all these years. In reality, we all know the true answer deep inside our soul.
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some people think my god is other than your god
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larratta: Yes God exists, creation stands as witness from clouds, sun, moon, stars, every creeping creature, birds of the air, giraffes that stand taller than trees, elephants, lions, plants, the fullness of the ocean to name but a few, humans inclusive. These things reflect undisputable proof of the intelligence that orchestrated the beginning of life on earth! All creation echoes of Gods grandeur and majesty. Only fools dispute this living proof
Stay blessed and enjoy this beautiful day that Yahweh has made
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Stay blessed and enjoy this beautiful day that Yahweh has made
-L
I couldn't agree more.
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Don't worry about if a creator God exists.
Worry about if a destroyer God exists.
Worry about if a destroyer God exists.
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