Is it wrong to not want to have children? (141)

Mar 1, 2014 1:09 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
kidatheart: It's no different for men, having kids with the wrong person could mean ending up living a life of poverty, paying child support, and having to "negotiate" with your ex to see your own children, when she sees fit.

I've met a lot of women that wanted kids, but not necessarily a man, but had no objection to dragging them through court for money to pay for the kids. As well, some that planned just that, having kids so a man could support her, because of the kids, and with no intention of having the man "their" lives. Also, several that are vindictive, totally selfish, hateful and spiteful, and will use the children as a weapon.

After 35 years or so of watching "family dynamics", there's no way in the world that anyone can say it's rougher for the women than it is for the men. Even after meeting and talking to several so called "dead beat dad's", it's usually just over money, and not being able to afford the costs of it all, and slowly sinking in to a pit of despair, and some have even committed suicide because of it.

What most seemingly fail to realise is, the children are the ones that pay the ultimate price for what their parents decide to do. I intentionally avoided all of it, having a girlfriend, having kids, knowing full well what the odds are here in Canada, and what my future could could hold, if I had kids with the wrong woman.

It was my decision, and I do often feel cheated to an extent, seeing as I think I would have been a good father, and several people that know me have also mentioned that. Thing is though, it's a bad idea for a man to have a child with just anyone.



I agree with what you say kid, there are the same problems in England, but here a woman can have a child and the state pays her generous allowances, so she can maintain an irresponsible life style and continue with her studies, which are also paid for by the state, and remain relatively free of financial worries on the taxpayer.
I put a lot of this down to feminist leanings. JMO
Mar 1, 2014 3:56 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
kidatheart: It's no different for men, having kids with the wrong person could mean ending up living a life of poverty, paying child support, and having to "negotiate" with your ex to see your own children, when she sees fit.

I've met a lot of women that wanted kids, but not necessarily a man, but had no objection to dragging them through court for money to pay for the kids. As well, some that planned just that, having kids so a man could support her, because of the kids, and with no intention of having the man "their" lives. Also, several that are vindictive, totally selfish, hateful and spiteful, and will use the children as a weapon.

After 35 years or so of watching "family dynamics", there's no way in the world that anyone can say it's rougher for the women than it is for the men. Even after meeting and talking to several so called "dead beat dad's", it's usually just over money, and not being able to afford the costs of it all, and slowly sinking in to a pit of despair, and some have even committed suicide because of it.

What most seemingly fail to realise is, the children are the ones that pay the ultimate price for what their parents decide to do. I intentionally avoided all of it, having a girlfriend, having kids, knowing full well what the odds are here in Canada, and what my future could could hold, if I had kids with the wrong woman.

It was my decision, and I do often feel cheated to an extent, seeing as I think I would have been a good father, and several people that know me have also mentioned that. Thing is though, it's a bad idea for a man to have a child with just anyone.


It is a pity that one of the most natural, and best, things in the world, children, are used as both weapons and pawns by vindictive people.


I have seen both revengeful mothers, and dads who refuse to pay for their own children's upbringing, and neither are winners, and the kids even less so.

And those kids learn from their life experiences, and so the cycle continues...
Mar 1, 2014 4:00 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
Freedomofspeech9: Dragos, Thank you for your post it is very informative and yes many children are waiting to be adopted by a loving family, but obvious the parents must be willing to do all the hard work involved in bringing up a child and they will spend the rest of their lives helping that child even in adulthood, so it is a enormous commitment.

Best of luck wish your adoption


Thanks for all the good tidings but I am still hoping that someone will "Adopt" me into their world and then I will see where that takes me. LOL.
cheers
Mar 1, 2014 6:26 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Alexandro10
Alexandro10Alexandro10monceaux, Hauts-de-France France36 Threads 17 Polls 1,180 Posts
Freedomofspeech9: I don't think I ever want to have children and part of this reasoning is because I would not want to bring them up in today's society!

How about you lot what are your views?


NO , NOT AT ALL .I think I'm in wrong to say to want to have children . !! Lol
Mar 1, 2014 6:35 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Twisties
TwistiesTwistiesmelbourne, Victoria Australia5 Posts
i don't chose to not have kids i just cant cant find the right person
Mar 1, 2014 6:47 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
kidatheart: It's no different for men, having kids with the wrong person could mean ending up living a life of poverty, paying child support, and having to "negotiate" with your ex to see your own children, when she sees fit.

I've met a lot of women that wanted kids, but not necessarily a man, but had no objection to dragging them through court for money to pay for the kids. As well, some that planned just that, having kids so a man could support her, because of the kids, and with no intention of having the man "their" lives. Also, several that are vindictive, totally selfish, hateful and spiteful, and will use the children as a weapon.

After 35 years or so of watching "family dynamics", there's no way in the world that anyone can say it's rougher for the women than it is for the men. Even after meeting and talking to several so called "dead beat dad's", it's usually just over money, and not being able to afford the costs of it all, and slowly sinking in to a pit of despair, and some have even committed suicide because of it.

What most seemingly fail to realise is, the children are the ones that pay the ultimate price for what their parents decide to do. I intentionally avoided all of it, having a girlfriend, having kids, knowing full well what the odds are here in Canada, and what my future could could hold, if I had kids with the wrong woman.

It was my decision, and I do often feel cheated to an extent, seeing as I think I would have been a good father, and several people that know me have also mentioned that. Thing is though, it's a bad idea for a man to have a child with just anyone.


It happens here too.. that men are broke for years and years with maintenance payments... and fall to despair..

With your clear forward thinking, I am sure that you could have made a great father... but you are right... you cannot be having a child with just anyone...

I have children.. 2 boys.. which I brought up .. because my hubby died when he was quite young.. so I never had the hassle of child sharing, and money stuff... ( so I count myself as lucky in that regard)
Mar 1, 2014 7:07 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
damshoppin
damshoppindamshoppinmansfield, Nottinghamshire, England UK30 Threads 693 Posts
It's not wrong if you don't want kids, you probably won't make a good parent anyway, so if you don't want them don't have em....One thing I have noticed though, most older folk who never bothered, through choice that is, seem to regret it.
Mar 1, 2014 7:11 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
It makes no sense to bring children into the world if you really and truly don't want them.I think there's enough unwanted children in the world as it is.Go take a look at an orphanage sometime.
Mar 1, 2014 7:15 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Merriweather: It happens here too.. that men are broke for years and years with maintenance payments... and fall to despair..

With your clear forward thinking, I am sure that you could have made a great father... but you are right... you cannot be having a child with just anyone...

I have children.. 2 boys.. which I brought up .. because my hubby died when he was quite young.. so I never had the hassle of child sharing, and money stuff... ( so I count myself as lucky in that regard)
...I have,nt seen my 3 girls since my div/..20 odd years....but I still love them dearly.....sigh
Mar 1, 2014 7:33 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
santi83
santi83santi83Bekasi, West Java Indonesia1 Threads 512 Posts
truheart1941: ...I have,nt seen my 3 girls since my div/..20 odd years....but I still love them dearly.....


Is it because of the divorce?


hug
Mar 1, 2014 7:35 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
I hear you man its going on 7 for me. I ended up with one of those people that Kid was mentioning only she was meaner than you could imagine. Well I'm still alive making the best of it. Thank God formotorcycle hug
Mar 1, 2014 7:37 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
truheart1941: ...I have,nt seen my 3 girls since my div/..20 odd years....but I still love them dearly.....


Oh my goodness, how heartbreaking, Pete. hug
Mar 1, 2014 7:38 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
chatonlyman2: I hear you man its going on 7 for me. I ended up with one of those people that Kid was mentioning only she was meaner than you could imagine. Well I'm still alive making the best of it. Thank God for


...and you Chatman hug
Mar 1, 2014 7:38 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
chatonlyman2: I hear you man its going on 7 for me. I ended up with one of those people that Kid was mentioning only she was meaner than you could imagine. Well I'm still alive making the best of it. Thank God for




( sorry Chatman.. I had to have a peek at your pics..)

and sorry it went wrong for you... Jeez.. you are a good looking bloke.. wave just saying... not flirting.. cheers
Mar 1, 2014 7:53 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
Merriweather: ( sorry Chatman.. I had to have a peek at your pics..)

and sorry it went wrong for you... Jeez.. you are a good looking bloke.. just saying... not flirting..
Thankshug handshake
Mar 1, 2014 8:02 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Alexandro10
Alexandro10Alexandro10monceaux, Hauts-de-France France36 Threads 17 Polls 1,180 Posts
truheart1941: ...I have,nt seen my 3 girls since my div/..20 odd years....but I still love them dearly.....


Oh my.....!! That's a lot manshock
Mar 1, 2014 8:10 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
Merriweather: ( sorry Chatman.. I had to have a peek at your pics..)

and sorry it went wrong for you... Jeez.. you are a good looking bloke.. just saying... not flirting..


Very good looking, isn't he? I never thought I'd think facial hair was attractive but have to say...it suits you Chatdude thumbs up head banger
Mar 1, 2014 8:11 AM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
damshoppin: It's not wrong if you don't want kids, you probably won't make a good parent anyway, so if you don't want them don't have em....One thing I have noticed though, most older folk who never bothered, through choice that is, seem to regret it.


I am not sure that most older folk regret it- or at least I never noticed this. perhaps those that feel their name will not be passed down to the next generation....

I for one, never wanted children, and I do love my siblings' children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren. And I like my co-workers children, and children in general.
Just never wished to take on the responsibilities and sacrifice that is required when you have a child.
Mar 1, 2014 3:06 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
santi83: Is it because of the divorce?
..yes it was.
Mar 1, 2014 3:17 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
I Have 2 Grown Sons, But Would Not care to have any More at 53,

It is Me time now...

But Would Like to Still enjoy to do the Actsbanana blushing wow
Mar 1, 2014 3:20 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
HotrodLarrys: I Have 2 Grown Sons, But Would Not care to have any More at 53,

It is Me time now...

But Would Like to Still enjoy to do the Acts
you ejoyed breast feeding then......???????rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 1, 2014 3:37 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
truheart1941: you ejoyed breast feeding then......???????


Yes blushing laugh
Mar 1, 2014 3:45 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
shell1964
shell1964shell1964Marion county, Florida USA7 Threads 1,184 Posts
HotrodLarrys: I Have 2 Grown Sons, But Would Not care to have any More at 53,

It is Me time now...

But Would Like to Still enjoy to do the Acts
thumbs up what acts are you talking? do tell??laugh popcorn writing laugh
Mar 1, 2014 3:50 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
shell1964: what acts are you talking? do tell??


I Cant, I Just Cant!blushing



But Here is a Clue!smitten giggle
Mar 1, 2014 4:09 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
shell1964
shell1964shell1964Marion county, Florida USA7 Threads 1,184 Posts
HotrodLarrys: I Cant, I Just Cant!
But Here is a Clue!
laugh its the only thing to do this winter its been too cold for anything else..i bet this fall there be lots of babies bornwink laugh
Mar 1, 2014 4:28 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
shell1964: its the only thing to do this winter its been too cold for anything else..i bet this fall there be lots of babies born



professor It Must have something to do with Body Heat, Or Just In Heat!reunion giggle
Mar 1, 2014 4:50 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
No it's not wrong.

If a person recognizes that they don't want children because they wouldn't be a good parent or they are too busy, whatever the reason is, they have made the best decision for the unborn child. There are many who should never have done the "thing" without birth control.
Mar 1, 2014 4:54 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
SrecaSreca
SrecaSrecaSrecaSrecaNear Belgrade,, Serbia, Europe, Central Serbia Serbia1 Posts
Reason for existing of people on Planet is reproduction for next generations. Make that Planed be Paradiso for people and make millions kids!
Mar 1, 2014 5:47 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
Freedomofspeech9: I don't think I ever want to have children and part of this reasoning is because I would not want to bring them up in today's society!

How about you lot what are your views?


When I was a teen ager, I vowed to never have children with a man I don't trust or one who would hate the children, resent their needs, or be jealous of them. I never found the guy who wants kids and wants to be married. It made me feel like everything I was raised to believe was a lie because almost every single movie or story had a romance and the people always fell in love which meant that they got married and lived happily ever after in a real world where married couples want to brain each other and are never happy until they get their divorces.
Mar 1, 2014 5:56 PM CST Is it wrong to not want to have children?
Cyn_Real
Cyn_RealCyn_RealHappily Taken,, New Territories Hong Kong3 Threads 515 Posts
tomcatwarne: I agree with what you say kid, there are the same problems in England, but here a woman can have a child and the state pays her generous allowances, so she can maintain an irresponsible life style and continue with her studies, which are also paid for by the state, and remain relatively free of financial worries on the taxpayer.
I put a lot of this down to feminist leanings. JMO


In Asia, people will talk behind your back if your daughter get pregnant without husband around. That's why our parents always remind us not to have kids before marriage. It is thougher for women with fatherless kids so we have to be more responsible about this. There are some hit and run guys out there.

For parents with sons, they also tell their sons not to do this embarassing action before marriage. They are also afraid if their sons got trapped by some irresponsible women. Some parents even won't talk with their daughter/son again if we broke this rule.
We use cookies to ensure that you have the best experience possible on our website. Read Our Privacy Policy Here