Enrique Tarrio gets 22 years...
News just in that Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced today, Tuesday September 5th to 22 years in prison for orchestrating his far-right extremist group’s attack on the U.S. Capitol.Of more than 1,100 Capitol riot cases, Tarrio has received the longest sentence so far.
"Tarrio pleaded for leniency, describing Jan. 6 as a “national embarrassment,” and apologizing to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. His voice cracked as he expressed remorse for letting down his family and vowed that he is done with politics."
Actually, he's not done with politics. Prison has their own form of pecking order.
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How much of it is he likey to serve?
You often read into things that don't exist. For example:
Did I state either way if I was happy or sad that Enrique was found guilty of seditious conspiracy?
Since I didn't, I'd like to thank you for deciding my opinions and emotions without me.
Good work !!!!
To make excuses, especially excuses that those being imprisoned are being made scapegoats, is just BS spread by those who think criminal Trump and his cult are heroes.
These people refuse to acknowledge that criminals should and do, end up in prison.
I, for one, am extremely happy that a ringleader has been convicted and will spend time locked away from society. Just as I was extremely happy when the mugger who attacked my mother was also imprisoned.
To make excuses, especially excuses that those being imprisoned are being made scapegoats, is just BS spread by those who think criminal Trump and his cult are heroes.
These people refuse to acknowledge that criminals should and do, end up in prison.
I, for one, am extremely happy that a ringleader has been convicted and will spend time locked away from society. Just as I was extremely happy when the mugger who attacked my mother was also imprisoned.
Where the lengthy sentence is questionable in my opinion, is in the judge stating that it must act as a deterrent. That perhaps implies a retributive element that goes beyond justice that is proportional to the crime.
As for justifying imprisoning Trump, I don't think you have to fret about that. Tarrio's conviction is completely insignificant compared to Rudy Giuliani owning that he lied about election fraud and being found liable in the defamation suit against him.
The question is, why did Rudy just hand over the Georgia and Washington cases to the prosecution on a plate? Why did he grease the wheels of Trump's prosecution and disqualification rather than preserve and produce evidence for the discovery phase of that defamation suit?
People were hurt and killed...According to an F.B.I. affidavit the panel highlighted ... a government informant said that members of the far-right militant group the Proud Boys told him they would have killed Pence 'if given the chance.' The rioters on January 6th almost had that chance, coming within forty feet of the Vice-President as he fled to safety.
Is this scenario a tactic of the government using Tarrio as a sacrificial lamb?...keep in mind this is only one scenario of what the Proud Brothers are involved in...
No? Maybe you need to do some research!
As for "hoping the leader of communist China is soon arrested[". If he has done something illegal by Chinese legal standards, then sure, he needs to face the consequences.
The question is, why did Rudy just hand over the Georgia and Washington cases to the prosecution on a plate? Why did he grease the wheels of Trump's prosecution and disqualification rather than preserve and produce evidence for the discovery phase of that defamation suit?
It is obvious that neither Rudy nor Trump has any credible evidence opposing the indictments against them, so by saying all he said, it leaves him open to a plea bargain, hanging Trump out to dry. As I said, interesting question, awaiting a good response.
Only around 5% of the entire Chinese population are signed up members of the CCP.
How much of it is he likey to serve?
Where the lengthy sentence is questionable in my opinion, is in the judge stating that it must act as a deterrent. That perhaps implies a retributive element that goes beyond justice that is proportional to the crime.
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It is obvious that neither Rudy nor Trump has any credible evidence opposing the indictments against them, so by saying all he said, it leaves him open to a plea bargain, hanging Trump out to dry. As I said, interesting question, awaiting a good response.
He was found liable by default, but also admitted that he made up his claims of election fraud in this case brought by Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss, the African-American Georgia election workers he likened to drug dealers.
It may be that he had no credible evidence opposing the suit, but that would have been established had he produced the material he was asked for. If however, he avoided the discovery phase deliberately, as Judge Beryl Howell referenced in her ruling, it paints a picture of spoilation, or tampering with evidence.
That begs the question of why Giuliani might tamper with evidence at the same time as creating evidence against himself (and potentially his alleged co-conspirators) in the Georgia state RICO and Washington federal election conspiracy cases. His admission of making up and deliberately propagating an election fraud tale go to the very heart of the two criminal cases. He has potentially, perhaps almost certainly, screwed himself and maybe others in those upcoming trials.
The question is, what was so damining in that undisclosed evidence that Giuliani admitted to making up that claim of election fraud that will inevitably be used in the criminal cases? What could be worse than the RICO and federal conspiracy charges?
Where the lengthy sentence is questionable in my opinion, is in the judge stating that it must act as a deterrent. That perhaps implies a retributive element that goes beyond justice that is proportional to the crime
As I've pointed out before, DC voted for Biden over Trump by a factor of 17 to 1. For every 1 person who voted for Trump, 17 voted for Biden. It's virtually impossible for anyone in any way associated with Trump or the America First MAGA movement to get fair treatment there. Juries are heavily tainted in opposition to such defendants. And yet any and all requests for change of trial venue to a neutral district have been summarily denied.
The Biden regime is off the rails. This is accelerationism and is designed - as I've said - to justify when they're going to try and throw Trump, his lawyers, and other associates in jail. This is essentially an attempted purging of the political opposition that is under way. The Nazis in early 1930s Germany did similar after the Reichstag Fire - it was their excuse to go after, persecute and ultimately purge their political opponents and effectively institute a weaponized federal police state. And guess what? Many everyday Germans cheered it on and sought to justify it as it was happening. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it.
If he is held completely, or partialy culpable for some, or all of the deaths and injuries on that day, then a just sentence should account for that.
Justice should not include deterrence as that is retribution based on what others might do in the future, not what Tarrio did in the past.
The sentence will either deter, or it won't, depending on who is viewing it. Saying it was meant as a deterrent was pointless at best and possibly opens it up for challenge.
No? Maybe you need to do some research!
As for "hoping the leader of communist China is soon arrested[". If he has done something illegal by Chinese legal standards, then sure, he needs to face the consequences.
The plan was a huge success to the great annoyance of the Central Committee. In 1965 the USSR was not a major exporter of oil or gas and the bulk of Russia's income was based on what it could sell, and suddenly under the plan there was lots of stuff folks outside Russia wanted to buy. Dollars and francs flowed in and suddenly the Russian standard of living began to rise. Houses with no electricity got electricity, roads were built or improved, Luda production improved and increased, new refineries were built and oil began to be exported which produced more money, etc, etc. .
It all changed in 1972. Russia had become a member of OPEC and fully agreed with that organization's policies. Doing so gave the Central Committee a way to return to pure communism (and corruption). All of the reforms of the Kosygin Plan were reversed with the factories going back under central control and only making what they were ordered to make in the specific quantities ordered, even if there was no profitable market for such goods. The awarding of salary bonuses and pay raises for more productive employees was halted. The Central Committee was of the belief that the new profits from oil more than offset the lost profits from production and best of all those oil revenues profits would flow through their hands and not the hands of the peasants. This of course once again destroyed the Russian economy and in large part to the collapse of the USSR.
There was a brief period of return to capitalism under B. Yeltsin, but upon seizing power V. Putin crushed most of it. Only approved people (aka Oligarchs) or their relatives are allowed huge profits. If someone in rurral Russia starts a successful business, it is usually taken away and turned over to a favored person.
China watched the Kosygin Plan, saw it was a success and the decision to end it was a bad one. So Communist China allows it's own version of the Kosygin Plan to exist and enough people to think things are good and that they can own things to avoid self destructing the country.
As I've pointed out before, DC voted for Biden over Trump by a factor of 17 to 1. For every 1 person who voted for Trump, 17 voted for Biden. It's virtually impossible for anyone in any way associated with Trump or the America First MAGA movement to get fair treatment there. Juries are heavily tainted in opposition to such defendants. And yet any and all requests for change of trial venue to a neutral district have been summarily denied.
The Biden regime is off the rails. This is accelerationism and is designed - as I've said - to justify when they're going to try and throw Trump, his lawyers, and other associates in jail. This is essentially an attempted purging of the political opposition that is under way. The Nazis in early 1930s Germany did similar after the Reichstag Fire - it was their excuse to go after, persecute and ultimately purge their political opponents and effectively institute a weaponized federal police state. And guess what? Many everyday Germans cheered it on and sought to justify it as it was happening. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it.
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As for the 1930's Germany allegation, Biden, however many faults he has, isn't the one with malignant narcissistic personality traits like Hitler. Just sayin'.
As I've pointed out before, DC voted for Biden over Trump by a factor of 17 to 1. For every 1 person who voted for Trump, 17 voted for Biden. It's virtually impossible for anyone in any way associated with Trump or the America First MAGA movement to get fair treatment there. Juries are heavily tainted in opposition to such defendants. And yet any and all requests for change of trial venue to a neutral district have been summarily denied.
The Biden regime is off the rails. This is accelerationism and is designed - as I've said - to justify when they're going to try and throw Trump, his lawyers, and other associates in jail. This is essentially an attempted purging of the political opposition that is under way. The Nazis in early 1930s Germany did similar after the Reichstag Fire - it was their excuse to go after, persecute and ultimately purge their political opponents and effectively institute a weaponized federal police state. And guess what? Many everyday Germans cheered it on and sought to justify it as it was happening. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it.
""Tarrio pleaded for leniency, describing Jan. 6 as a “national embarrassment,” and apologizing to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. His voice cracked as he expressed remorse for letting down his family and vowed that he is done with politics.""
Which kind of suggests he knew he orchestrated the terrorist attack. He got caught and will spend 22 years regretting he ever heard of Trump.
""Tarrio pleaded for leniency, describing Jan. 6 as a “national embarrassment,” and apologizing to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. His voice cracked as he expressed remorse for letting down his family and vowed that he is done with politics.""
Which kind of suggests he knew he orchestrated the terrorist attack. He got caught and will spend 22 years regretting he ever heard of Trump.
Once again you are using distraction as a method as a way of ignoring the facts...
Just for clarity....his past crimes prevented him from entering the capital...you do not need to be directly involved to be an instigator/conspirator...he encouraged and planned this behavior/act...
Despite his machismo...he begged for leniency...I say...f*ck him and the rest of the band of idiots...people died...got hurt...and some had to retire due to their injuries...will Donald pay for it?...good question...
Biden has nothing to do with it...he was found guilty by his peers in court...here is a news clip...
A Washington, DC, jury has convicted four members of the far-right Proud Boys group of seditious conspiracy and other crimes for actions connected to the January 6, 2021, attack on Congress. The verdicts came after a three-month federal trial and a week of deliberation.
You fail as a moral human being...as you are defending such ignorant racist misogynistic homophobic trash who committed acts of violence on people...
They are the brown shirts...will Trump rescue them?...
Probably not...they are cannon fodder...
Nice try...
Having said that, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is self-executing thus a large number of Republican's in office are already automatically disqualified from those positions on the grounds of insurrection, rebellion, or providing aid, or comfort.
In practise it will take a while for all those disqualifications to make their way up to the Supreme Court, but it's looking like the Republican party in it's current form may well be decimated.
Hopefully that process will happen sequentially enough that the criminals and fruitloops can be replaced with law abiding, rational Republicans without disrupting the normal functioning of government, or what used to be the normal functioning of governent before folks started thinking Jews were firing laser beams from the sky and election workers were likened to drug dealers on the basis of no evidence whatsoever and indeed evidence to the contrary. <--- sorry to remind you, I thnk you're trying your best to ignore Rudy's outright admission that he lied about there being election fraud.
PPS. If Biden is a puppet with multiple handlers, then a very large group of people can't have a Persnallity Disorder by default, ergo Trump is still the malignant-narcissist-Hitler-alike.
PPPS. How quickly you forget how much time Trump spent of vacation.
PPS. If Biden is a puppet with multiple handlers, then a very large group of people can't have a Persnallity Disorder by default, ergo Trump is still the malignant-narcissist-Hitler-alike.
PPPS. How quickly you forget how much time Trump spent of vacation.
Thugs for Trump...
Thugs for Trump...
I'm talking about the summer of 2020 of course. Of course cowards don't want to acknowledge all of this. You want to pretend it didn't happen, instead pointing to 2.5 hours of sporadic rioting on J6 that could quite easily have been avoided (for the most part anyway) with proper security precautions to ensure a safe environment to protest and for Congressional proceedings to go ahead unimpeded. But then again - if you acknowledge that, then your support of abuses of power and the attempt to institute a tyrannical one party state would fall apart, wouldn't it?
I'm talking about the summer of 2020 of course. Of course cowards don't want to acknowledge all of this. You want to pretend it didn't happen, instead pointing to 2.5 hours of sporadic rioting on J6 that could quite easily have been avoided (for the most part anyway) with proper security precautions to ensure a safe environment to protest and for Congressional proceedings to go ahead unimpeded. But then again - if you acknowledge that, then your support of abuses of power and the attempt to institute a tyrannical one party state would fall apart, wouldn't it?
Extremely conservatively in favour of the rioters, 12.53pm to some time past the 6pm curfew, you're right 2.5 hours n the dot and most of them only went for the tiddlywinks tournament anyway.
See? That's the trouble when you're too stupid to see the Democrat propaganda You start having illusions that well before 1pm to after 6pm is more than 5 hours.
If only I were as good at maths as you I'd be able to see that 74,222,948 is greater than 81,283,098, too.
Second..show Sunday night detailed 20k fraudulent votes somewhere, illegal drop boxes and a slew of other voter fraud. Like a woman who walked up and asked and got a hand full of ballots to leave with. So there is question out there that is swept under the rug.
Third//Obama made a statement that he would see to being able to make a phone call and run his third term. So Biden the Senile is his puppet.
Fourth... The Proud Boy and his group, stated plans way ahead of Jan 6th, about doing a take-over, rebellion or something. So with their convictions, how can they pin the blame on Trump because he had a rally and said they should MARCH to the Capital.
The cabal/ elites/ oligarchs in this country are terrified of Trump for the simple reason that he throws a wrench in their agenda.
Now they are starting again with the election variant.
This is not tit for tat and distracting is not a good game...
Most people believe in peaceful protest...start hurting and killing people...the support dwindles...no matter if you are left or right politically speaking...
Keep trying to convince women, people of colour and other minorities...that it would be ideal for them to go back in time when straight white males were deemed superior...
Perhaps the idea that these idiotic shit heads are reminding people that black men were hung from trees, women were raped and beaten...and people of other faiths were ostracized as well...back in the good old days...the definition of a person was up to white men...
The Proud Boys manifesto...reminds people of the past...
If you knew the history behind it...you would stop being an idiotic mouth piece...
The American antifa movement grew after Donald Trump was elected
president of the United States in 2016. Antifa activists' actions have since received support and criticism from various organizations and pundits.
Some on the political left and some civil rights organizations criticize antifa's willingness to adopt violent tactics, which they describe as counterproductive and dangerous, arguing that these tactics embolden the political right and their allies.
Both Democratic and Republican politicians have condemned violence from antifa.