Enrique Tarrio gets 22 years...

News just in that Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was sentenced today, Tuesday September 5th to 22 years in prison for orchestrating his far-right extremist group’s attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Of more than 1,100 Capitol riot cases, Tarrio has received the longest sentence so far.


"Tarrio pleaded for leniency, describing Jan. 6 as a “national embarrassment,” and apologizing to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. His voice cracked as he expressed remorse for letting down his family and vowed that he is done with politics."


Actually, he's not done with politics. Prison has their own form of pecking order.

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I never recall being happy about others going to prison, sad this gives you joy, you yourself could end up in a type of prison, for example if you were stuck in a nursing facility , think about because what you hope for others is usually what you will get. scold
Blimey, that's a long time.

How much of it is he likey to serve?
Understand this: people like Tarrio are just the sacrificial lambs. People in power don't seriously consider him a threat. This is just all the pretense to try and justify imprisoning Trump and his lawyers and other supporters who challenged the 2020 election. They're 'setting the stage'. I don't know what to say to anyone who doesn't realize this. Regardless of your political affiliation, this ought to worry you. This IS authoritarianism. Up to you if you want to speak up against it or not
I'll bet you rooted for the villain in the movies...

You often read into things that don't exist. For example:
Did I state either way if I was happy or sad that Enrique was found guilty of seditious conspiracy?
Since I didn't, I'd like to thank you for deciding my opinions and emotions without me.

Good work !!!!
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Anyone notice that cocoa doesn't readily mix with cold milk?
The fact that Trump supporters decry imprisonment for those who break the law is exactly why people like Trump can Never be leaders.

To make excuses, especially excuses that those being imprisoned are being made scapegoats, is just BS spread by those who think criminal Trump and his cult are heroes.

These people refuse to acknowledge that criminals should and do, end up in prison.

I, for one, am extremely happy that a ringleader has been convicted and will spend time locked away from society. Just as I was extremely happy when the mugger who attacked my mother was also imprisoned.
You must be hoping the leader of communist China is soon arrested thumbs up
That he is a threat is less the salient point than he was a threat given he was found guilty of seditious conspiracy relating to J6 2020. He wasn't tried for seditious conspiracy in the future.

Where the lengthy sentence is questionable in my opinion, is in the judge stating that it must act as a deterrent. That perhaps implies a retributive element that goes beyond justice that is proportional to the crime.

As for justifying imprisoning Trump, I don't think you have to fret about that. Tarrio's conviction is completely insignificant compared to Rudy Giuliani owning that he lied about election fraud and being found liable in the defamation suit against him.

The question is, why did Rudy just hand over the Georgia and Washington cases to the prosecution on a plate? Why did he grease the wheels of Trump's prosecution and disqualification rather than preserve and produce evidence for the discovery phase of that defamation suit?
Once again you are supporting groups that promotes violence...it is one thing to be an anti-gay racist misogynistic person who is law abiding...but that is not the reason they are being arrested...

People were hurt and killed...According to an F.B.I. affidavit the panel highlighted ... a government informant said that members of the far-right militant group the Proud Boys told him they would have killed Pence 'if given the chance.' The rioters on January 6th almost had that chance, coming within forty feet of the Vice-President as he fled to safety.
Is this scenario a tactic of the government using Tarrio as a sacrificial lamb?...keep in mind this is only one scenario of what the Proud Brothers are involved in...
I hate to think what would have happened if Pence had been assassinated. Having seen a few videos, he was wise not to allow secret service to take away from the capitol.
Heads up:- China is a socialist country, not a communist country, show me a communist country where entrepreneurs are encouraged, where people are allowed to buy property, and set up new businesses and I will concede that China is also communist.


No? Maybe you need to do some research!

As for "hoping the leader of communist China is soon arrested[". If he has done something illegal by Chinese legal standards, then sure, he needs to face the consequences.
Interesting question.
It is obvious that neither Rudy nor Trump has any credible evidence opposing the indictments against them, so by saying all he said, it leaves him open to a plea bargain, hanging Trump out to dry. As I said, interesting question, awaiting a good response.
laugh Literally tens of millions of people are. rolling on the floor laughing
He lost a lot of support when he announced he would be the leader until death.

Only around 5% of the entire Chinese population are signed up members of the CCP.
In the US Federal system, most if not all. Of course if he turns state witness to something really important there is always the possibility of bringing a new deal back to the same judge for a sentence review. But otherwise 22 years it is. And there is 'compassionate' release for those so sick there is no point wasting money on guards or prison space. They can just parole those in final stages of cancer out to a nursing facility somewhere.
Under US sentencing guidelines (a thick tome to read) the judge had the option of saying 35 years. Remember this plot once initiated resulted in deaths by violence and is thus the equivalent of multiple murders. He actually got off kind of light in my opinion.
You missed some bits - Giuliani failed to preserve and produce evidence as ordered by the judge in the defamation suit such that he bypassed the discovery phase of the trial.

He was found liable by default, but also admitted that he made up his claims of election fraud in this case brought by Ruby Freeman and her daughter Shaye Moss, the African-American Georgia election workers he likened to drug dealers.

It may be that he had no credible evidence opposing the suit, but that would have been established had he produced the material he was asked for. If however, he avoided the discovery phase deliberately, as Judge Beryl Howell referenced in her ruling, it paints a picture of spoilation, or tampering with evidence.

That begs the question of why Giuliani might tamper with evidence at the same time as creating evidence against himself (and potentially his alleged co-conspirators) in the Georgia state RICO and Washington federal election conspiracy cases. His admission of making up and deliberately propagating an election fraud tale go to the very heart of the two criminal cases. He has potentially, perhaps almost certainly, screwed himself and maybe others in those upcoming trials.

The question is, what was so damining in that undisclosed evidence that Giuliani admitted to making up that claim of election fraud that will inevitably be used in the criminal cases? What could be worse than the RICO and federal conspiracy charges?
Tarrio wasn't even in DC that day. No evidence was produced that he encouraged any violence or encouraged anyone to impede congressional proceedings. The judge instructed the jury that such evidence wasn't even required to reach a guilty verdict in the case of Tarrio and the other 4 Proud Boys leaders who were sentenced to a combined 82 years in prison. The judge also prevented the defense from preventing evidence of undercover federal informants embedded in the Proud Boys who were apparently encouraging group members to commit violence and break the law. So you don't need to have planned anything, don't need to have encouraged or committed any violence, and you can be sentenced to decades in prison. This is absolute insanity. For comparison, a man who firebombed a police precinct during the Summer 2020 riots got just 4 years in jail. Antifa rioters who in 2017 during Trump's inauguration attacked cops, destroyed shop fronts, firebombed cars and launched molotov cocktails - had their charges eventually dropped. Not only that, they got a PAYOUT from the city, for 'unfair treatment'. Rioters in 2020 too who attacked Secret Service while attempting to breach the White House had their charges dropped also.

As I've pointed out before, DC voted for Biden over Trump by a factor of 17 to 1. For every 1 person who voted for Trump, 17 voted for Biden. It's virtually impossible for anyone in any way associated with Trump or the America First MAGA movement to get fair treatment there. Juries are heavily tainted in opposition to such defendants. And yet any and all requests for change of trial venue to a neutral district have been summarily denied.

The Biden regime is off the rails. This is accelerationism and is designed - as I've said - to justify when they're going to try and throw Trump, his lawyers, and other associates in jail. This is essentially an attempted purging of the political opposition that is under way. The Nazis in early 1930s Germany did similar after the Reichstag Fire - it was their excuse to go after, persecute and ultimately purge their political opponents and effectively institute a weaponized federal police state. And guess what? Many everyday Germans cheered it on and sought to justify it as it was happening. Those who fail to learn from history are destined to repeat it.
I hear what you're saying, but that's a seperate issue, isn't it?

If he is held completely, or partialy culpable for some, or all of the deaths and injuries on that day, then a just sentence should account for that.

Justice should not include deterrence as that is retribution based on what others might do in the future, not what Tarrio did in the past.

The sentence will either deter, or it won't, depending on who is viewing it. Saying it was meant as a deterrent was pointless at best and possibly opens it up for challenge.
The easy answer is the USSR from 1965 through 1972 as it followed the Kosygin Plan. Khrushchev had devastated the Soviet economy. The Kosygin Plan to save it required factory managers to make independent decisions on a profit basis instead of directions from Moscow. The decisions now under their control included what to make, how much of it, and for the first time, where to distribute their products and allowed the selling of the products wherever there was a market for them. The plan also encouraged managers to reward productive or innovative employees with pay raises and bonuses. In short the Kosygin plan embraced capitalism and profit.

The plan was a huge success to the great annoyance of the Central Committee. In 1965 the USSR was not a major exporter of oil or gas and the bulk of Russia's income was based on what it could sell, and suddenly under the plan there was lots of stuff folks outside Russia wanted to buy. Dollars and francs flowed in and suddenly the Russian standard of living began to rise. Houses with no electricity got electricity, roads were built or improved, Luda production improved and increased, new refineries were built and oil began to be exported which produced more money, etc, etc. .

It all changed in 1972. Russia had become a member of OPEC and fully agreed with that organization's policies. Doing so gave the Central Committee a way to return to pure communism (and corruption). All of the reforms of the Kosygin Plan were reversed with the factories going back under central control and only making what they were ordered to make in the specific quantities ordered, even if there was no profitable market for such goods. The awarding of salary bonuses and pay raises for more productive employees was halted. The Central Committee was of the belief that the new profits from oil more than offset the lost profits from production and best of all those oil revenues profits would flow through their hands and not the hands of the peasants. This of course once again destroyed the Russian economy and in large part to the collapse of the USSR.

There was a brief period of return to capitalism under B. Yeltsin, but upon seizing power V. Putin crushed most of it. Only approved people (aka Oligarchs) or their relatives are allowed huge profits. If someone in rurral Russia starts a successful business, it is usually taken away and turned over to a favored person.

China watched the Kosygin Plan, saw it was a success and the decision to end it was a bad one. So Communist China allows it's own version of the Kosygin Plan to exist and enough people to think things are good and that they can own things to avoid self destructing the country.
Tell me, if the majority of people are against Trump, then how come he won the 2020 election by a landslide? The more people you heap on the anti-Trump stolen election conspiracy, the more you outweigh the likelihood of that same conspiracy. That's the problem when you can't get any lies, or misinformation to stick.

Here's a story similar, to yours from a reputable site:



As for the 1930's Germany allegation, Biden, however many faults he has, isn't the one with malignant narcissistic personality traits like Hitler. Just sayin'.
Irrelevant. Everyone knows Biden isn't really running anything anyway. He barely campaigned. He was installed. He forgets where he is half the time and has spent 40% of the last 2.5 years on vacation. He's the very definition of a political puppet. It's the people behind the scenes, pulling the strings, working everything out - that people need to worry most about. And that includes FBI leadership, DOJ leadership, various judges, district attorneys, Democrat Party leadership (obviously), co-opted media, powerful NGOs and advocacy groups, and a lot more. Anyone who believes that what is happening is independent and organic is fooling themselves. This is a highly coordinated and very well funded attempt to obliterate the opposition and essentially institute one party dictatorial rule. I pray it fails. And I'd equally pray it fails if the Republican Party were the ones at the forefront attempting it. Because I'm against dictatorships and tyranny.
In case you missed the OP text.

""Tarrio pleaded for leniency, describing Jan. 6 as a “national embarrassment,” and apologizing to the police officers who defended the Capitol and the lawmakers who fled in fear. His voice cracked as he expressed remorse for letting down his family and vowed that he is done with politics.""

Which kind of suggests he knew he orchestrated the terrorist attack. He got caught and will spend 22 years regretting he ever heard of Trump.
Ehhhhhhh NO. This is just the result of someone being subjected to a kangaroo court with (essentially) a predetermined outcome. Most people in such a situation are going to beg for mercy, to say what they think the judge wants to hear in the hope they'll get a less severe sentence. This isn't justice. These are show trials, these Proud Boys the sacrificial lambs in order to continue to perpetuate the 'insurrection' narrative and to justify further political persecution and accelerationism by this thoroughly vindictive and hostile illegitimate regime
Just your opinion, thankfully only a few follow your thinking.
Chancer...

Once again you are using distraction as a method as a way of ignoring the facts...
Just for clarity....his past crimes prevented him from entering the capital...you do not need to be directly involved to be an instigator/conspirator...he encouraged and planned this behavior/act...

Despite his machismo...he begged for leniency...I say...f*ck him and the rest of the band of idiots...people died...got hurt...and some had to retire due to their injuries...will Donald pay for it?...good question...

Biden has nothing to do with it...he was found guilty by his peers in court...here is a news clip...

A Washington, DC, jury has convicted four members of the far-right Proud Boys group of seditious conspiracy and other crimes for actions connected to the January 6, 2021, attack on Congress. The verdicts came after a three-month federal trial and a week of deliberation.

You fail as a moral human being...as you are defending such ignorant racist misogynistic homophobic trash who committed acts of violence on people...
They are the brown shirts...will Trump rescue them?...

Probably not...they are cannon fodder...

Nice try...
Yeah, like I said, the more you claim that everyone is in on it, the more you shoot yourself in the foot. The more you claim how unpopular Trump is, the more you admit there was no stolen 2020 election.

Having said that, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is self-executing thus a large number of Republican's in office are already automatically disqualified from those positions on the grounds of insurrection, rebellion, or providing aid, or comfort.

In practise it will take a while for all those disqualifications to make their way up to the Supreme Court, but it's looking like the Republican party in it's current form may well be decimated.

Hopefully that process will happen sequentially enough that the criminals and fruitloops can be replaced with law abiding, rational Republicans without disrupting the normal functioning of government, or what used to be the normal functioning of governent before folks started thinking Jews were firing laser beams from the sky and election workers were likened to drug dealers on the basis of no evidence whatsoever and indeed evidence to the contrary. <--- sorry to remind you, I thnk you're trying your best to ignore Rudy's outright admission that he lied about there being election fraud.
PS. (because you did manage to distract me briefly) It's notabe that you didn't say my comment was irrelevant because Trump doesn't show malignant narcissistic traits.

PPS. If Biden is a puppet with multiple handlers, then a very large group of people can't have a Persnallity Disorder by default, ergo Trump is still the malignant-narcissist-Hitler-alike.

PPPS. How quickly you forget how much time Trump spent of vacation.
Not nearly as much time as Biden has. And comparing Trump's PERSONALITY to Hitler's is absolutely absurd. Seriously. What ultimately matters is a person's ACTIONS. Trump never acted as a dictator while president, despite the non stop accusations of such by political operatives aligned against him. Americans were never more free than under the Trump administration. The Biden administration - on the other hand - has shown zero hesitation to weaponize government power for political purposes. It couldn't be more obvious. They used the textbook Alinsky tactic of projection against Trump - 'accuse your opponent of that which you're guilty of'. It's probably the oldest propaganda technique in the book. Relentlessly accuse your opponent of being a dangerous dictator who must be stopped at all costs - and then seek to normalize ACTUAL dictatorial and tyrannical measures once you're in power yourself. It really is amazing how many people fall hook line and sinker for this.
Yes, it is really amazing laugh
I guess he forgot about the brown shirts and the night of long knives...laugh

Thugs for Trump...
Actually it was WEEKS of long knives (metaphorically). And the perpetrators were Antifa and BLM. With full permission from Democrat Party leadership. 2 billion dollars worth of damage. Dozens dead. Hundreds seriously injured. Police precincts torched. City blocks set alight. Small businesses destroyed. Churches attacked and vandalised. An attempted breach of the White House with dozens of Secret Service injured. Calls to defund the police and chants and banners saying 'all cops are bástards'. And last but not least a federal courthouse in Portland attacked for MONTHS by Antifa masked agitators (that's one sure way to intimidate the judiciary!).

I'm talking about the summer of 2020 of course. Of course cowards don't want to acknowledge all of this. You want to pretend it didn't happen, instead pointing to 2.5 hours of sporadic rioting on J6 that could quite easily have been avoided (for the most part anyway) with proper security precautions to ensure a safe environment to protest and for Congressional proceedings to go ahead unimpeded. But then again - if you acknowledge that, then your support of abuses of power and the attempt to institute a tyrannical one party state would fall apart, wouldn't it?

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The Capitol police were first overwhelmed at 12.53pm, but of course the evacuation was already underway by then, plus two pipe bombs had been discovered in different locations. The interior of the Capitol building was cleared by 5.40, but it took longer for re-establish the perimeter. It wasn't until 8pm that Capitol Police declared the buildng secure.

Extremely conservatively in favour of the rioters, 12.53pm to some time past the 6pm curfew, you're right 2.5 hours n the dot and most of them only went for the tiddlywinks tournament anyway.

See? That's the trouble when you're too stupid to see the Democrat propaganda You start having illusions that well before 1pm to after 6pm is more than 5 hours.

If only I were as good at maths as you I'd be able to see that 74,222,948 is greater than 81,283,098, too.
First..China figured out that if they allow people to own and work and spend, they won't riot or rebel or do anything to rock their boat. So the oligarchs stay in power.
Second..show Sunday night detailed 20k fraudulent votes somewhere, illegal drop boxes and a slew of other voter fraud. Like a woman who walked up and asked and got a hand full of ballots to leave with. So there is question out there that is swept under the rug.
Third//Obama made a statement that he would see to being able to make a phone call and run his third term. So Biden the Senile is his puppet.
Fourth... The Proud Boy and his group, stated plans way ahead of Jan 6th, about doing a take-over, rebellion or something. So with their convictions, how can they pin the blame on Trump because he had a rally and said they should MARCH to the Capital.
The cabal/ elites/ oligarchs in this country are terrified of Trump for the simple reason that he throws a wrench in their agenda.
Now they are starting again with the election variant.very mad
Chancer...

This is not tit for tat and distracting is not a good game...

Most people believe in peaceful protest...start hurting and killing people...the support dwindles...no matter if you are left or right politically speaking...

Keep trying to convince women, people of colour and other minorities...that it would be ideal for them to go back in time when straight white males were deemed superior...laugh

Perhaps the idea that these idiotic shit heads are reminding people that black men were hung from trees, women were raped and beaten...and people of other faiths were ostracized as well...back in the good old days...the definition of a person was up to white men...
The Proud Boys manifesto...reminds people of the past...

If you knew the history behind it...you would stop being an idiotic mouth piece...
Antifa...here is the overall thought on this organization...

The American antifa movement grew after Donald Trump was elected
president of the United States in 2016. Antifa activists' actions have since received support and criticism from various organizations and pundits.
Some on the political left and some civil rights organizations criticize antifa's willingness to adopt violent tactics, which they describe as counterproductive and dangerous, arguing that these tactics embolden the political right and their allies.
Both Democratic and Republican politicians have condemned violence from antifa.
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