Atheist VS Believer

According to google, an atheist is a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods, while a believer is an adherent of a particular religion; someone with religious faith.

So what..??

I don't understand why you guys keep on and on and on arguing or debating on that topic as if doing that will make you good people and be loved. It will make you "nasty" instead. Besides, whatever you say will never change someone's mind anyway. Just a waste of energy..!! doh


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My new passport will be ready on Wed.
First country I have in mind to visit with my Giant is..






NZ. banana
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Hot topic...laugh

Enjoy NZ...lived there for a year...I think I told you already...

Happy travels...

wine
Don't forget the 3rd type, agnostics, the quiet branch. Most non-religious types are inherently agnostic - believing that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable.

And the 4th type, spiritual but not religious - not affiliated to a religion yet believing there is something outside mere plodding existence. More of them than of agnostics, and they can get a bit irritating, mainly because they're so vague and all they know for sure is they don't approve of any organized (i.e. money-based) religion.

Most religious believers have found peace or even answers from their belief and in this troubled and non-peaceful world want others to share their solution. Some get strident about it and I completely agree that nothing said will ever, EVER, change someone's mind, all they do is become increasingly irritating.

Most vehement atheists have been let down by God-isn't-Santa (usually at an early age, often the first time something crap happens in their lives and how could it if there was a God?) and are enraged that others can preach that belief makes everything all right. They can't let that pass because They Know Better and the more extreme become increasingly irritating.

The topic can be a welcome change from politics but bumping our gums on either religion or politics will never change anything, We Know What We Know. professor

NZ is a VERY long flight! laugh cheering
Susiecute...

Agnostics and spiritual people keep their options open...just in case...

professor

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wine
Reading some of those posts on that blog made my skin crawl

The first to pounce are those believer's.First to judge & the first to spit Pack of hypocrites

If their loved one is ill they never thank the medical staff because God did all the work Oh yes God

Well they can punch their figment of imagination right up where the sun never shines

How many bloody priests are p*dophile? They completely ignore that vile shit

Yeah if there was such a thing as a God my granddaughter would be with us

My nan & pop would never of suffered and guess what yep that's right they were believers whom suffered terrible painful deaths

Terminally ill kids on their deaths beds Terminally ill adults too young to die are dying

Ukraine being blown up to bits killing innocent families whom just want to live like the rest of us

I could write a bloody book about the sufferings of the world

They preach their religious shitty click bait blogs just for the sake of an arguement
Merc...

You are not Jewish are you...lol...laugh

Imagine having to defend choosing not to practice a religion and due to a technicality of birth you are called a liar because Frau Jenny said he needed to state his "race" in his CS profile..shock

Someone call the moral sir bobby


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Frau RED here rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing i was born in Germany and had a German mother and English father doh now who am i ME ME ME RED banana banana banana peace peace teddybear teddybear

stay fun and peaceful folk
Enjoy NZ Kal wave wave
To judge a whole group on the basis of the actions of some members of that group is an act of bigotry and discrimination, whether that's judging all Catholics for the paedphile priests, all Muslims for terrorism, all Germans for the slaughter of the Jews, all Jews for the occupation of Palestine, all Russians for Ukraine, all Republicans for Donald Trump, all Christians for not saying thank you to medical staff, all Christian bloggers for some stupid shit, or all non-Christian bloggers for some stupid shit.

Having said that, to suggest that organised religion is sacrosanct and off limits for discussion is how abuses and bigotry have thrived within them. We do need to discuss many things including, but not exclusive to, aspects of organised religion if we are to evolve our humanity.

The issue is not the discussion, but that it's not being discussed intelligently, fairly, or with humility.
Jewish? Not that I know of laugh

She probably holds the bible upside down too laugh

They get pissed off with the Aussie because his intelligence is superior compared to those types
I remember when I was little my nans two rules were not to discuss religion nor politics within the home

I have never ever come across anyone in the real world who wishes to discuss or debate such personal things I understand politics being vented on the blogs being America & all but like my nan said two such subjects create nothing but arguments
It is the attitude and judgement of people like Frau that makes many people question why anyone would wish to follow Christianity.

Who would want to be in the same group/cult as someone like the Dutch Canadian?
Noooo...thanks...

I thought at first the limited English case scenario (second language) as far as using words or terms like "race" inappropriately...then I thought...who is she...God... confused...then...I...laugh...

The capital letters for emphasis does not help either...cowboy
I spilt my coffee...upside down bible...laugh



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Jac...

Are you writing a report or giving a lecture...confused

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She has lived in Canada since a child and for over 65 years, if she hasn't learnt English by now that is disgraceful. I lived in China for just ten years and can understand the difference between the Han Chinese and the Mongolians or Manchus, in spoken Mandarin.
Totally agree with you. I think alcohol and whatever plays a big part in the jekyll and hyde's on the blogs.
Pathetic but at least it shows true colors.
I thought it was crack...laugh rolling on the floor laughing

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@luke yet another snide and defamatory comment from you. Alcohol and Crack? Ad hominem is your standard approach to discussion is it? Seems to be Irrelevant too, but that goes without saying.

@OP the OP of the article which I think gave rise to your thread was not arguing, simply presenting a thoughtful Richard Dawkins youtube presentation in which Dawkins raises valid questions. Do you think that is a waste of time? The idea is to consider them and reach your own conclusion.
Fargo...

People who are guilty would be offended but I find it's funny...at any rate...it makes no difference to me...

I do not live with the notion of Heaven or Hell...a concept to keep people in fear...
@lou: so if I suggest he doesn't play Russian roulette with a Makarov - would that be funny?
Not sure what you are getting at with the Russian pistol reference...

My point being that if that's all he/she got...why not laugh...it doesn't upset my day...wine
It shows how some "Christian" behave...when God goes on holiday...

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Again with the JDS- (Jenny Derangement Syndrome) laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Another load of Hooha...

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Just trolling today Lou ? scold
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Does everyone have to choose a side ? why can't i be good and evil all rolled into one, it's much easier to be both i reckon..
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