What is this new "PREMIUM?"

What is this new "PREMIUM?" I am seeing it more often, what is the difference?
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I don't use private mail a lot these days, but the other day I was feeling a bit sociable.

When I tried to reply to one person, I got a notice saying I had reached my private mail limit for the day and would I like to join as a premium member?

I'd mailed two people a total of 12 times within the last 24 hours and found I couldn't mail for another 9 hours. I'm guessing that translates to unpaying members now having 8-10 free mails to send per day.

Now imagine I'd been chatting to both of those people with a romantic intent and I didn't want either to know about the other, like I'm some low down dirty dawg of a lothario.

And imagine both people I was stringing along talking to knew about the mail limit.

Then imagine I'd reached my mailing limit after five mails to each of my romantic interests. They're both going to want to know where the other five mails went, right?

Enter the get out of poop free card that is premium membership.

For a monthly fee of $9 I can enjoy 20 free mails, 20 free likes, an ad free dating experience and a premium member badge on my profile indicating I'm unlikely to be a conventional scammer. I'm still a dirt bag who's scamming two romantic interests out of informed choice, or informed consent, mind.

The 20 mails a day is very low for a monthly subscription, but there are no worries about forgetting to pay: the only two ways I'll be able to cancel my subscription and payments is by asking CS nicely to cancel themselves from taking money out of my account, or by upgrading to a yearly subscription.

My guess is that upgrades are fairly instant, but cancellations take enough time for admin to legally suck another monthly payment out of my account before managing the time consuming business of clicking on a thing, or two. One thing's for certain, I'm not going to be able to cancel my subscription through my bank because of the kind of subscription I agreed to.

Now imagine 20 mails and likes per day still gets me in the poop. I might upgrade to a yearly subscription of 60 mails and likes a day at a cost of $79, a snip at 29% less than monthly subscriptions for sooo much more.

Either way, I might forget I'd subscribed monthly, or yearly leaving CS to help itself out of my account forevermore, especially if I've forgotten which dating sites I joined and under which names.

It also explains why the ads are bleeding through several of my adblockers and are so animated they sometimes freeze my screen. CS wants to piss me off enough to pay them to not piss me off, as well as paying them not to dump me in poop.
wow help

Well no more me replying politely to those who have emailed but are not of any interest because they are too young, too far away, or can't spell, but have still taken the time to try a reasonable approach.

CS may have to put a warning on new members popping off emails in every direction - 'the recipient may have reached their limit, or may not feel you are worth a reply under the new limit' snooty

even better, when the sender presses send, CS could warn 'is your email interesting? Sending hello how r u cuts into your daily limit and trust us on this, will not get you any responses. Press send again if you are happy with your message' uh oh
It's not about providing a service for an income.

It's about who can scam the vulnerable and needy the bestest.

CS is just improving their position in the pecking order.

And I doubt very much that this onion is going to have a solid centre, mind. professor
The site is a business...it must make money to stay alive.

There have been signs that it does not have the revenue needed to keep things the same.

The closing of all threads before the previous 5000 responses...purging of some threads or blogs...

I know when I log in now, there used to be pages of people online now...Now, it is maybe one page..

My guess is..asking to pay to upgrade is a way to keep the site afloat...
If you want to replace pictures you have to upgrade to premium.
Things are changing, enjoy CS while most of it remains free. banana
You can replace pictures for free

I'm surprised you have gotten away with a cartoon for so long
There are still more layers to this onion than that.
A limit on messages. Well, that explains why I get less spam lately. I do not think getting Prime would increase the number of real messages.
New membership appears to be down and that would be a reason why you are receiving less spam messages.
The amount of messages a free member can send hasn't changed.

Premium allows for more messages daily than free and it's doubtful many scammers would pay for Premium, therefore if Premium members are taking advantage to be able to send more messages, the percentage (on this site) of real messages would increase.

If paid members don't see anything in your profile that interests them, chances are they would not send you a message.
I'm pretty damned sure I've sent way more that 8-12 PM's in a 24 hour period sometime in the last 14-ish years that I've been a member of this site.

I'm pretty damned sure I've sent way more than 20 PM's in a day which is now the limit for a monthly subscription.

The amount of messages a free member can send has most definitely changed.

The new membership is likely down because with such restrictions on sending likes and mails, this site is a considerably less viable option for scammers.

TKSpectre is correct in his assumption that the drop in spam mail he's receiving is likely a function of the new restrictions placed on non-paying members.
The amount of messages a free member can send has most definitely changed.

A change? You may be the first to have reported it.
On my 'Upgrade to Premium' blog, Dani_290 said it's 20 per day.
Her profile is closed so I'm unable to ask if she noticed a change.
The website states premium gets you 60 per day.

The new membership is likely down because with such restrictions on sending likes and mails, this site is a considerably less viable option for scammers.

CS is still advertised as a FREE site. There are no restrictions in joining that would affect new membership. Do you monitor the amount of new women joining each week?

TKSpectre is correct in his assumption that the drop in spam mail he's receiving is likely a function of the new restrictions placed on non-paying members.

A few months BEFORE CS announced premium membership, I noticed a drop in new members AND less activity of hits, likes and messages.
Maybe seasonal or a sign of the times, but the SAME THING is happening on another site I'm a member of. Ebb and flow unrelated to premium membership.

As they say, YMMV
(Your Mileage May Vary)
Maybe read my first comment on here?
Free is around 10 mails per day, monthly subscription 20 mails per day, yearly subscription 60 mails per day.

Most of us bloggers likely don't privately mail all that much and won't have noticed when the limits started.

'Spect the scammers noticed in the first hour and many new members will be scammers doing their cycle of getting kicked off and then re-joining with a different-ish profile. Once there was such a restrictive limit on unpaid membership, it's maybe not worth their while creating new profiles all the time. See?
What you are saying there are 2 levels of premium with the amount of daily messages and that yearly subscription gets more messages than monthly?

Got a link?
Mail me 'hello' about ten times in quick succession, Chat.

The premium thing will come up on the 11th try, or so, as long as you haven't by chance spanned two days according to the owners time zone.
Ten is the limit...

Daily limit reached for sending messages
Looks like you have reached your daily limit for sending messages.
Switch to a premium subscription plan to get an increased limit on daily messages.


Like Johnny Carson used to say: "I did not know that"

So the question is: Will someone be able to test the other 2 tiered premium system?
Duh.. I posted the link on my blog.
Yeah, two tiered Premium

So it's 10 per day on free, 20 per day on monthly and 60per day on yearly.

Give CS access to my bank account to the point where I'd have to ask them nicely to stop helping themselves?

As we Brits say, "Not on your Nelly" laugh
30 day notice to stop billing. Do it on a credit card so you have some recourse to dispute the transaction.
So is this 10 per day message limit 24 hours from my last message or until midnight?
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I dunno.

I didn't have enough information to work that out.

Having deliberately used up your 10 PM's in a short space of time (was there ever a nerdier set of messages in my inbox) you're in a better position to work that out and report back to us.
It's past midnight and I'm still locked out from sending messages... that 'next day' theory didn't work.
How often does anyone clean out their maill box in and out mail,
It is amazing how fast it builds up.
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I don't think your midnight is the same as the site owners' midnight.

We're expecting you to try every half hour until you can post again, Chat.

It doesn't look like the site owners are going to tell us how it works anytime soon. laugh
I "earn my keep" here, by writing poetry, of considerable literary merit.




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I think it is 24hrs from your last Message,just like the flowers used to be,once a day,ie.24hrs from your last one!dunno thumbs up
I'm inclined to believe that. It's 20 hours later and I'm still locked out.
This is nail biting stuff. The tension is building as I sit on the edge of my seat with one hand on my defibrillator just in case. rolling on the floor laughing
We're traveling uncharted waters... inquiring minds want to know.

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Just in case, I'm bring along a defibrillator...

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No, it's not that because I was able to send mail 9 hours after my last message.
What's interesting is the lack of communication from the site owners.

They don't want members knowing how it works and that tells us something about them and what they're up to.

We're just on the second, or third layer of the onion here. laugh
“Premium” usually means money extraction from you. grin
Just make sure the battery is charged. laugh
For me, 24 hours later was the magic number...
...and when you die and still have an account, they will continue taking money out of your account, so more extra work for your heirs
you can give your whatsapp and after "finishing" with him/her - block the number. Wouldn't do it with everyone though
Good point.
I thought this site was dysfunctional enough for free, now people have to pay to play? doh
Who knows it could get brought out. It needs a substantial amount of users to sign up and generate a regular stream of income for the site. wine
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