"The Collapse Of Swedish...

...Police, Law And Legal System"

For some time there has been reports that Sweden is in decline due to pressures put upon its societal and economic institutions by the influx of immigrants.

Until recently, these reports have come largely from individuals reporting/opining on venues such as YouTube.

Recent reports from Swedish officials now appear to be saying much the same thing.
This from Stockholm's Chief Of Police...

YouTube The Collapse of Swedish Police, Law and Legal System

More evidence that the situation is deteriorating, perhaps more quickly than even YouTube opiners predicted...

YouTube NORWAY: WE'RE READY TO ABANDON INTERNATIONAL LAW

Basically, the Norwegian PM has announced that country will not abide by Geneva Convention provisions for taking in refugees, and will close and enforce its border with Sweden in the event of its collapse.

Individuals opining via YouTube vids are one thing.
Official actions being announced by a head of state are quite another.
'Actions speaking louder than words', as the saying goes.

This is as heartbreaking as it is surprising.
Sweden has long been thought of as one of the better and more progressive societies in which to live.
That it now appears confronted with a situation which may lead to its collapse is something that would've been well nigh unimaginable not so very long ago.

Heartbreaking. sad flower

cowboy
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I have a theory professor if you take a country where the socio-economic structure has broken down, law as we know it is non existent there must be a cause, what none of the wooly headed liberal politicians have even realised is the root cause of these problems are trees professor So if you take Sweden as an example, they welcome people in from countries no sane man would set foot in, but the politicians are so busy telling these people they can provide for them, there taxpayers will foot the bill uh oh and totally miss the fact they're taking these people from the frying pan into the fire doh Sweden is a country full of trees wow what did they expect would happen dunno

Of course my theory is just a work in progress, there could just possibly be another cause confused
Agreed, gg.

What's opined upon by individual YouTubers can/should be taken with a very large grain of salt.

But when the information comes from interviews with officials willing to go public with similar - and quite possibly even more dire warnings - that simply must be taken more seriously.
Not-so-fake news, if you will.

The Norwegian PM warning of Sweden's potential collapse and announcement that her country would abandon Genera Convention agreements and close the border with Sweden by force if necessary was...stunning.

Good grief!
We're talking about a border between Scandinavian countries, not some Middle East hotspots!
Things you'd never think you'd ever live to see. dunno

sad flower

cowboy
Mr miclee, It's not hard to understand the collapse of Sweden. Sweden professes to be the 'first feminist government'. This form of feminism is not the man hating kind, it's pure Marxism-Leninism. The Liberal leftist president Louven is as left wing as they come. How one can tell which rabbit hole they're going down look at all their feminists leaders visiting the Middle East...all wearing headscarfs just like Merkel did. When Melania Trump went to the ME...no head scarf. Every socialistic country will succumb under their montra of Politically Correct.
hmmm

Uhhh...yeah, Z.
That tree hypothesis sounds good.
Seriously.
It might be worth looking into. I suppose.
dunno

As you mentioned, the immigrants are arriving from a very different culture.
Beyond that, the recent arrival of very large numbers of immigrants/refugees would make assimilation difficult under the very best of conditions.

The U.S. has a long history of arrivals from many cultures/places of origin.
The proverbial melting pot.
Experience shows that it takes three generations for people to progress from newly arrived immigrant to 1st generation American to 2nd generation fully assimilated American.

Thinking about it, I can see this progression within my own family, both sides of which arrived in the U.S. circa late 1800s.
My Mom was a 1st generation American.
Though born in the U.S., she grew up in a closely knit immigrant community and did not even learn to speak English until she was about 12 and rather well along in school.

Assimilating very large numbers of immigrants - relative to the size of the native population - from another culture, speaking a different language would put great strain on both immigrants & the host country.
Just the sheer numbers would make the assimilation process significantly more difficult.
And that under the very best and most ideal conditions, you understand.

cowboy
Absolutely agreed, Z.

As I mentioned, sheer lsrge numbers of immigrants would put great strain on the culture/resources of a host country...'under the very best an most ideal conditions'.

As you've correctly noted, conditions in Sweden are very far from the very best and most ideal.
Not only do I agree with you, your observations align very closely with those of the Stockholm Chief Of Police and other officials in the vid referred to in my OP.

cowboy
Assimilation can never take place where the group concerned belong to a religion or cult that specifically precludes it, previous groups assimilated into say the US have mainly been of similar ideals & beliefs. In this case the two sides are so juxtaposed assimilation will require one side or the other to give up there beliefs imo.
Z Interesting you should have built your reply around Trees, the Quran is full of stories about trees.
and whilst I am on about diversity and liberalism that has gone mad. It is worth noting that nobody but
Muslims can gain entry to Mecca.wink
Pat wow I've never been so all I can go by is what I've seen on tv & people from there I've spoken to, but I don't recognise your description, you been hanging round the docks again confused laugh
Z blushing Sorry for ruining your day !broken heart
Patnips ~ I am very surprised by your observations. I had envisaged an impeccably clean Country, with well built to die for houses, and clean streets. The Scandinavians are a race with strong ethics about cleanliness and their interiors simple and tasteful. It is disappointing to hear of your first hand account.sigh
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My error Paris today
Yep, Mic. Nordlaender fuer Nordmaenner!. See signs for this more and more. It ain't exactly rocket science. But the levels of self loathing, white guilt, liberal denial is striking, still. Aa.
Once again link address unraveled. If you highlight the end of link and go up (backwards) then you can see Paris today.
If Sweden has been in decline since the '70s as Pat claims, taking in large numbers of immigrants/refugees from a very different culture, who are reluctant to assimilate into Swedish culture, could only make a bad situation much(!) worse.
Throwing gasoline on a fire, as the saying goes.

cowboy
Mic, or take it out of decline..idea
An historical glimpse into immigrant assimilation into U.S. culture...
Search -

Life With Luigi radio program

Recordings of the program are available somewhere on the 'net, I'm sure.
It's an old radio series that humorously and poignantly portrayed the progress of the program's protagonist to 'become an American' as he related the story in letters to his Mama Mia back in Italy.

True enough...it was a rather romanticized presentation, but does provide insights into the assimilation process.

cowboy
Perhaps, Molly.

But the Stockholm Chief of Police & Norwegian PM seem to take a less optimistic view.
Refer to vids in the OP.

Oh. Yeah. You don't do vids. Sorry.

cowboy
The Rewards of raving Multi-Culturism!uh oh frustrated
"The 2,100 year history of Christianity might also be cause for concern.
Christianity has never integrated or assimilated into any culture which it has conquered...or to which it has migrated.
Never.
It has always supplanted the original culture."




wink
Ms mollybaby, Not to get to deep into it,the difference with the Christians and muslims is highlighted by the fact that a Christian won't kill you if you commit apostasy.
No in my history, they left people who didn't want to become Christian.

In the US, before you can marry you don't need to be Christian, but to become a Catholic Christian, you have to be willing and accept the responsibility of making yourself worthy of the religion.
miclee Sorry ! I didnot mean to hijack your blog when it is about Sweden. I was using my city as an example of people putting out their hands to help in any way possible, and still no real deep integration, hence a divide, Diversity is an illusion. wink
Some Muslim clerics have maintained that Jerusalem is mentioned in the Qur'an, but by another name or indirectly.

Here's easy money waiting to be made, y'all! grin
There's a standing offer of $1 million U.S. for anyone who can find Jerusalem in the Qur'an.
So far...no takers. sigh

doh
Did I just hijack my own blog?!
I guess if I can do it, it's O.K. for you to do it, gg rose

cowboy
Ms. Goldy (not to be confused with gg) certainly lays it out there in that vid seaworthy.
Even those averse to vids might want to have a look.
Seriously.





wink

cowboy
Well now you have all had a good debate on this and that, not one word has been past for displaced people for whatever reason.

These people are human and at this moment on this earth are going through hell.

Bad governments, bad religion, biggoted people, you can debate to hell and back from when in history it began or turned and who did what and who wants to kill, BUT dear humans (i think) what of the people caught up in the debates.

i truly shake my head as you all live NOW at this moment far better than in grounds full of thousands of tents without food, sanitation, medical supplies what of them in your debates.FFFFF enjoy your supper folks
Are there large numbers of refugees living hellish displaced lives all over the planet?
Yes. Agreed.
The sheer numbers cited here are startling by any measure...

YouTube Which Countries Have The Most Refugees?

That acknowledged, large numbers of immigrants - from whatever place of origin and for whatever reason - undeniably put strains on the cultural and economic fabric of any host country.
As has been cited in a previous post this is true under the best and most ideal conditions.

What is taking place in Sweden appears to be occurring under conditions far worse than the best and most ideal.

Cited in the OP as evidence of this is the fact that such issues are no longer merely opined upon by YouTubers and on social site blogs (such as this) but are being openly addressed by the Stockholm Chief of Police and several other officials in Sweden and other Scandinavian countries.

Further evidence of such strain is the announcement by the Norwegian PM to disregard International Law by forcibly denying refugees entrance into her country across its border with Sweden.

The situation has been exacerbated by the immigrant crisis of recent years.

It is further exacerbated by persistent reports that substantial numbers of the arrivals may be Jihadis intent upon waging their holy war in Europe and other places.
These Jihadis would be callously using the plight of bona fide refugees as a Trojan horse to advance an agenda of invasion and conquest, as might be inferred from the public comments of Colonel Gaddafi included at the end of the European Demographics vid.

Should a host country take in people in such large numbers that doing so results in its resources being streched to the point that it brings about its own collapse?
This is would appear to be the concern of the Norwegian PM regarding the situation in Sweden.

Should a host country admit large numbers of refugees if evidence suggests that refugees are being used by Jihadis to infiltrate the host country and bring harm to it...and its citizenry?

At what point does the road to hell become paved with good intentions?

cowboy
I've heard reports of those tents. I've not seen pics of them

wow

If the reports & pics are authentic...
That is one helluva lotta (empty) tents!
I mean...DAYUM!

cowboy
'...Saudi Arabia has done sweet fek all to help their Muslim brothers and sisters.'

In fairness, gg, the Saudis have ponied up nearly $1 billion U.S. for the construction of mosques...in Europe.
Bless their generous hearts, eh? bowing

cowboy
hmmm

writing
1,429,999

writing
÷ 300,000

wow

@ about slightly less than 5 persons per tent...
those 300,000 tents could accommodate ALL active duty personnel of ALL branches of the U.S. military.

I mean...DAYUM!

Numbers are fascinating, are they not? batting

cowboy
I hope you all enjoyed your food and sleep last night, now once again you can debate about those that had not.

Debating, like the countries you lambast that do not help, dunno cant see the difference, but i can see seeds being sewn, and you can,t see those either laugh you eat them for breakfast.
Sadly, Red, none of us debaters are in any position to actually DO anything to help them. sad
So I figure, what the hell...pour another bowl of Wheaties & enjoy. smile
Hold the side order of White Guilt. scold

hmmm

Perhaps your efforts are misplaced here.
Killing the messenger. As the saying goes.

Maybe pass your suggestions on to someone who CAN do something? dunno
The Norwegian PM might be at the top of the list.

Or advise the stupid Saudis to re-allocate some of the nearly $1 billion U.S. European mosque funds and start filling those 300,000 air conditioned tents.
That might be helpful also.

BTW - I'm not completely convinced those Saudi tent pics are legit.
They're packed in there waaay too close to appear really useful.
I mean, Arabia has a helluva lotta space...desert & all that, you understand.
Right? dunno

So, couldn't they put a bit of space between those tents?
Also, at first glance, something seems to be missing.
Unless those tents are built over, like, the world's largest septic system, seems like One & Half MILLION folks (@ five folks/tent) would get the place kinda untidy in very short order. wow
If you're following my line of reasoning here.

cowboy
With due respect miclee, talking or sending messages to anyone as you suggest would not make a difference at all as much as your debating does in fact.

A lot of misinformation in this world of ours create monsters, of unsuspecting people who are being fooled. Now i do know i cannot do anything about that, but in small ways help some of the folk sitting in the middles of the mess.
And by the way they do not even have cereal.

A debate on maybe how these problems could be solved would be enlighting. The past is gone, whatever started all this is gone, new solutions to help or even solve the problems. In the mean time i hate to hear that volunteers are discounted whilst the mess is being cleared by people with more nohow than myself. They are not wasting their time by debates that is for sure, and yes some loose their life, but it was not in vain it was helping a fellow human, whilst the bigger mess is being sloved.
wow gg bowing bowing

Even i am aware of what refugge problem is doing to all countries, mmmmm why are they refuggees?

Most i say most are trying for a better life, trafficars have fleeced them with so called promises, after all western countries say they are the promised land flowing with milk and whats that i heard HONEY

Did I hear you calling yourself a BIGGOT????

what would you do if you were so disatisfied with your life-----sit still and moan OR get off your but and make it better??

Yep i hear some of the isis came along with refugees, but hey they are in our countries anyway, they move in single pokets etc right under our noses.

these folk are not the blame of our governments policies, for housing school etc, so elect elect who you want. lobby your MP,s etc

Vet who enter the country not just a free for all. A free for all only encourages more folk to risk their very lives for a better life for themselves and families.

Maybe do more help in countries that need help. Train them to work the land or find ways to make better for themselves. Long slog that but would be better than them floating across the world for something that people do not want them to have.

I do know people spend their whole lives trying to do just that, certainly puts me to shame sitting dry and clothed shouting my mouth how things are wrong. Or calling my neighbhour names because they do not think the same as your good self.

One person in a group whittling away (tents) at your senses turns you into something down the line you will think, how did that happen. They praise you for your good thoughts, commend you on your knowledge, were at last you get recognition and your hooked with hate in your heart, you will keep justifying this hate until your well and truly hooked. You see and listen without seeing or hearing a dang thing.
You raise a most excellent point, red! cheers

Yes. This is a singles' site & y'all women should absolutely ask if your potential main squeeze packs heat.

I mean...
Y'all wanna get yerself an (armed) sheepdog. dancing dog love
And not an (unarmed) sheep. crazy snooty
Right?

cowboy
doh

That last comment was meant for crown's self defense blog.

cowboy
Hurray for Viktor Orban (PM) Hungry.



Ms Redex, how's that research going with Poland & Hungry?
miclee laugh now if i was in america i would learn to shoot straight from the hip laugh but i am not so will nothandshake minor point in the grand scheme of things i hug tree instead AND not just with a left hand although i am left handed, mmmmm that is supposed to mean something, i can work with two hands and they recken i am evenenly balanced Now how boring is that for a little crazy

cheers i would share this with you the beer i meant laugh laugh
Mic

There is more crime commited against Muslims...and an increase in supporting far right politics...sigh

Never mind what orange julius says...lol...laugh

Sweden has its problems regarding helping integrate refugees...but I think alot of what people are hearing is nonsense...and will ask my relatives in Norway about this...better to hear from them than the internet...lol...laugh

Keep calm and carry on...wine
yep i read his blog no blue eyes flirty bluish blood i fink laugh laugh

Extra rib mmmm i am counting now this very minute.

Good one lou lou wine
Sea

Your comment is uncalled for...as GG has mentioned no need for name calling...scold

We all have opinions here...lets keep it civil...wine
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